David,
Thank you. I have joined that list and will continue the conversation there.
Cordially,
t.
---- On Fri, 08 Nov 2013 08:12:51 -0800 David T. Lewis<lewis@mail.msen.com> wrote ----
On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 07:29:42AM -0800, gettimothy wrote: > Eliot > > First, if these discussion is inappropriate for squeak-dev, I have subscribed to squeak-vm-beginners and we can move it there or elsewhere if I am creating too much noise here. >
Hi Timothy,
The vm-dev list is here:
http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vm-dev
It is not a beginner's list, and your discussion would be welcome there. Either way, you are not creating "noise" and it is great to see you getting involved.
> In working the steps at http://www.mirandabanda.org/cogblog/build-image/ and I have found that running all the tests for the Alien install on the SqueakVM that comes with the all-in-one app fails all but one of its tests. (primitives fail) > > If I start the image using the CogVM then all the tests pass. > > So, is it correct to say that building a Cog Development Image on Squeak4.4 or greater depends on a pre-built CogVM from http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/ ? > > I am assuming yes, but I want to verify with you before I document what I am doing >
It is a good idea to use a VM from mirandaband.org, because different VMs may have different runtime behaviour, and using a runtime environment that matches Eliot's will prevent confusion.
Strictly speaking, you can build a Cog VM using pretty much any VM that works with your Squeak4.4 image. So no it is not necessary to use a specific pre-built image, but it is a very good idea to do so, especially during the time when you are first learning how to do VM building.
I think Eliot will give you a similar answer, so hopefully he won't mind me stepping in to answer some of your questions.
Dave
> thx. > > t >
So, how’s the bounty Hunting going? Been a bit quiet.
I see the cleanups for the plugin code arrangement and they are good. I think. I’d really like to see the full solution to my problem sometime soon so I can send MONEY to someone. Just think of it; $1000 will get you a nice iPad Air and plenty left over to fill it with books or music or apps.
Or, if it turns out a bunch of people get together to solve the problem, I can happily split the dosh, or even make it a donation to squeak foundation or pharo foundation as appropriate.
tim -- tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Useful Latin Phrases:- Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam = I have a catapult. Give me all the money, or I will fling an enormous rock at your head.
so the conclusion was the the process for the pharo-vm is not a match?
On 2013-11-22, at 04:11, tim Rowledge tim@rowledge.org wrote:
So, how’s the bounty Hunting going? Been a bit quiet.
I see the cleanups for the plugin code arrangement and they are good. I think. I’d really like to see the full solution to my problem sometime soon so I can send MONEY to someone. Just think of it; $1000 will get you a nice iPad Air and plenty left over to fill it with books or music or apps.
Or, if it turns out a bunch of people get together to solve the problem, I can happily split the dosh, or even make it a donation to squeak foundation or pharo foundation as appropriate.
tim
tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Useful Latin Phrases:- Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam = I have a catapult. Give me all the money, or I will fling an enormous rock at your head.
On 22.11.2013, at 10:22, Camillo Bruni camillobruni@gmail.com wrote:
so the conclusion was the the process for the pharo-vm is not a match?
Using the pharo-vm process would be the easiest start, and the most unifying one, to be frank. Tho I'd do it different, but I am not doing a thing there, I'd say lets go for it.
Best -Tobias
On 2013-11-22, at 04:11, tim Rowledge tim@rowledge.org wrote:
So, how’s the bounty Hunting going? Been a bit quiet.
I see the cleanups for the plugin code arrangement and they are good. I think. I’d really like to see the full solution to my problem sometime soon so I can send MONEY to someone. Just think of it; $1000 will get you a nice iPad Air and plenty left over to fill it with books or music or apps.
Or, if it turns out a bunch of people get together to solve the problem, I can happily split the dosh, or even make it a donation to squeak foundation or pharo foundation as appropriate.
tim
tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Useful Latin Phrases:- Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam = I have a catapult. Give me all the money, or I will fling an enormous rock at your head.
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