On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 2:25 AM, Robert Withers robert.w.withers@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, exactly. I do realize I was consciously changing that effort synchronization order.
I see 64-bit being higher priority than multi-threaded for the wider community. Dealing with larger in-Image data opens the door to more corporate project/funding opportunities. Also simplifying the install on modern Linux platforms without requiring additional 386 libraries will help acceptance there.
It is my humble opinion, without really knowing, that 64-bit would have to be redone after the MTVM completes.
I would assume it was the other way around. Presuming that Eliot has sponsors influencing his priorities, it seems given that 64-bits will happen first. I would guess any MTVM development on the old vm would then need to be reworked.
I was doing so with the idea in mind that I and others might dig into working on the VM, for threading support, while Eliot maintains focus on 64-bits...a tall order, I know.
The usual downside of splitting resources applies. There are not that many "others" and maybe they would be drawn away from helping with the 64-bit vm. If the 64-bit vm goes slower for lack of resources then your footing for MTVM will shifting for a longer time. You may ultimately get where you want to go faster by helping with the 64-bit vm. The rapport built with other vm devs from working on 64-bit might could then be applied to MTVM. (Of course, its your free time, so you should pursue what interests you.)
I was barely familiar with the VM, slang, interpreter, it years ago... I'm totally unfamiliar with cog.
The experience you gain from working beside Esteban and Eliot on 64-bit Cog/Spur could then be applied to a MTVM.
btw, you may find these threads interesting... * http://lists.pharo.org/pipermail/pharo-dev_lists.pharo.org/2015-April/108648... * http://forum.world.st/Copy-on-write-for-a-multithreaded-VM-td4837905.html
cheers -ben
I believe another item on that list ought to be modernizing slang. So many big items!
Robert
On 10/16/2015 12:48 PM, Stephan Eggermont wrote:
On 16-10-15 14:05, Robert Withers wrote:
Because of that assumption I've made and without the responsibilities you have, Esteban, but recognizing modernizing NB to FFI, my desired list is:
I would expect the least total effort to be needed by keeping the work of Esteban and Eliot as much as possible aligned. That is what Esteban's list achieves.
Stephan