Squeak-dev September 2005

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Request for Squeak3.9a.from3.0 (i.e all changes thru 3.8 release))
by Peace Jerome 30 Sep '05

30 Sep '05

Please, to help bug hunters can someone get a version of squeak with all changes for the most recently released version. The last one available (Squeak3.8a.from3.0) has all the changes through the 3.7 release and a lot has happened since then. It is all the more needed since the change history was squashed and all you get when looking at versions is the most recent methods. The more I look into serious bugs, the more I realize how much the larger history of the code reveals the intent of the programmers and holds the key to the problem. Thank you in advance. Yours in service, --Jerome Peace __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com

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P5 glove support in Squeak / Croquet
by j 30 Sep '05

30 Sep '05

How hard would it be to add support for the P5 virtual reality glove in Squeak and Croquet? Drivers for Windows, Mac OS X and Linux are available. All are open source too! Here's a link to the "P5 Community Page" web site (lot's of stuff!) http://www.zzz.com.ru/index.php?area=pages&action=view_page&page_id=11 Here's a link to the site in which the Mac OS X driver (P5osc; 2 drivers in one download) can be downloaded. They're using the P5 as an experimental music interface. http://listen.to/simulus/p5glove/ I think having support in Squeak / Croquet would be fantastic! The Squeak community could also gain supporters in the growing, skilled community that is supporting the P5 glove. Jason Hogue

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re: quoth
by Craig Latta 30 Sep '05

30 Sep '05

Hi all-- A while back I mentioned Quoth, a dynamic interactive fiction system I'm writing with Spoon[1]. I've made a site for it[2], featuring a short demo movie[3], showing it being used for "musical livecoding"[4]. It's rather fun! I'm preparing a release, to be delivered via Naiad, Spoon's module system. -C [1] http://netjam.org/spoon [2] http://netjam.org/quoth [3] http://netjam.org/quoth/demo [4] http://toplap.org -- Craig Latta improvisational musical informaticist www.netjam.org Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)]

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Are we back?
by Ken Causey 30 Sep '05

30 Sep '05

This is first and foremost a test message. If you are seeing this that should mean that squeak-dev and all of the lists hosted by lists.squeakfoundation.org are back. I apologize for the extended downtime. Apparently there was a problem with the server, about which Cees can perhaps provide more info. It was decided that this was as good a time as any to move the lists to box2 so the community admins can all monitor it rather than Cees having to always be responsible. Cees was able to get things started but just didn't have the time to finish it up. I jumped in but not being familiar with mailman it took me a while. Again I'm sorry that this took so long but hopefully in the future we will have smoother sailing. Ken

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Concurrency
by Mariano Montone 30 Sep '05

30 Sep '05

Hello, I have a doubt: why does the opening of, in example, the Squeakmap Package Browser block the whole Squeak environment? Thank you Marian ___________________________________________________________ 1GB gratis, Antivirus y Antispam Correo Yahoo!, el mejor correo web del mundo http://correo.yahoo.com.ar

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re: quoth
by jwalsh＠bigpond.net.au 30 Sep '05

30 Sep '05

Opps sorry, didn't mean it to go public. What the heck; red face. I really meant it for integrating all the instrumentation in a hospital. All the alarms going off, and then being turned off, driving me mad. Simply because the staff couldn't handle them. Some patients died. The different alarms sounding like an orchestra warming up. That give me the idea. Thanks Craig You're a life saver. Justin ---- Craig Latta <craig(a)netjam.org> wrote: > > Hi Justin-- > > > Trying to avoid the code, whilst trying to find the Purpose. Is there > > one? > > Yeah! There are three: > > - to support live music programming in a way that an audience can > follow. We use projectors so that the audience can see everything we do, > as we do it. This is "livecoding" (once again I can plug > http://toplap.org :). > > - to make "text adventures" easier to write, by be able to write them > from the point of view of the "player-character" > > - to provide a "shell" alternative to the traditional Smalltalk workspace. > > Also see the "motivation and influences" section of the Quoth site. > > > I see a need for the concept of IDE, from the POV of the subject i.e. > > mySelf. This Integration is not from the top down, but from the bottom > > up. This demo immediately presented to my imagination and entire > > orchestra. With mySelf in the role as conductor. Perhaps even contol > > it? Is this over stretching the metaphor? > > No, that sounds reasonable. :) > > > -C > > -- > Craig Latta > improvisational musical informaticist > www.netjam.org > Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)] > > >

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re: quoth
by jwalsh＠bigpond.net.au 30 Sep '05

30 Sep '05

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re: quoth
by jwalsh＠bigpond.net.au 30 Sep '05

30 Sep '05

Please pardon my off-line interest. Trying to avoid the code, whilst trying to find the Purpose. Is there one? I don't mean that to be rude. It is not necessary to have a purpose. Your focus on Smalltalk and Streaming, is most signicicant to me at the moment. I see a need for the concept of IDE, from the POV of the subject i.e. mySelf. This Integration is not from the top down, but from the bottom up. This demo immediately presented to my imagination and entire orchestra. With mySelf in the role as conductor. Perhaps even contol it? Is this over stretching the metaphor? Very impressed Justin Walsh ---- Craig Latta <craig(a)netjam.org> wrote: > > Hi all-- > > A while back I mentioned Quoth, a dynamic interactive fiction system > I'm writing with Spoon[1]. I've made a site for it[2], featuring a short > demo movie[3], showing it being used for "musical livecoding"[4]. It's > rather fun! > > I'm preparing a release, to be delivered via Naiad, Spoon's module system. > > > -C > > [1] http://netjam.org/spoon > [2] http://netjam.org/quoth > [3] http://netjam.org/quoth/demo > [4] http://toplap.org > > -- > Craig Latta > improvisational musical informaticist > www.netjam.org > Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)] > >

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REMINDER: Squeak Chat Saturday October 1st 01:00 GMT
by Ken Causey 30 Sep '05

30 Sep '05

Just a reminder that the next Squeak Chat will take place between 01:00 (1 AM) and 05:00 (5 AM) GMT Saturday October 1st, 2005. As usual we will meet in #squeak on irc.freenode.net. More information about the #squeak IRC channel can be found at http://people.squeakfoundation.org/article/7.html This is a good time to contribute to the development of Squeak by participating in the Harvesting Process. One of the main ways to contribute is by Reviewing submitted fixes and enhancements. For information about the Harvesting Process see http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/3152 If you have the time please attend and work toward the future of Squeak. The next seven chats are scheduled for 05:00 (05:00 AM) GMT Wednesday October 05, 2005 09:00 (09:00 AM) GMT Sunday October 09, 2005 13:00 (01:00 PM) GMT Thursday October 13, 2005 17:00 (05:00 PM) GMT Monday October 17, 2005 21:00 (09:00 PM) GMT Friday October 21, 2005 01:00 (01:00 AM) GMT Wednesday October 26, 2005 04:00 (04:00 AM) GMT Sunday October 30, 2005

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REMINDER: Squeak Chat Monday September 26th 21:00 GMT
by Ken Causey 25 Sep '05

25 Sep '05

Just a reminder that the next Squeak Chat will take place between 21:00 (9 PM) GMT Monday September 26th and 01:00 (1 AM) GMT Tuesday September 27th, 2005. As usual we will meet in #squeak on irc.freenode.net. More information about the #squeak IRC channel can be found at http://people.squeakfoundation.org/article/7.html This is a good time to contribute to the development of Squeak by participating in the Harvesting Process. One of the main ways to contribute is by Reviewing submitted fixes and enhancements. For information about the Harvesting Process see http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/3152 If you have the time please attend and work toward the future of Squeak. The next seven chats are scheduled for 01:00 (01:00 AM) GMT Saturday October 01, 2005 05:00 (05:00 AM) GMT Wednesday October 05, 2005 09:00 (09:00 AM) GMT Sunday October 09, 2005 13:00 (01:00 PM) GMT Thursday October 13, 2005 17:00 (05:00 PM) GMT Monday October 17, 2005 21:00 (09:00 PM) GMT Friday October 21, 2005 01:00 (01:00 AM) GMT Wednesday October 26, 2005

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