Hi,
Maybe this question is better asked on the vm-dev list. Does anyone know the status of the ClipboardExtendedPlugin?
Happy New Year!
Bernhard
Am 20.12.2021 um 09:38 schrieb Bernhard Pieber bernhard@pieber.com:
Hi everyone,
I tried to copy a form as PNG to the clipboard like this: ExtendedClipboardInterface current addClipboardDataConvertFormToPNG: self imageForm
This seems not to work correctly. If I paste it to TextEdit I get the binary data starting with PNG instead of the image itself. It looks as if the ClipboardExtendedPlugin is not loaded. The plugin seems to be in the current VM source (src/pugins/ClipboardExtendedPlugin), though. I am on macOS Big Sur 11.6.1.
Should this work? I tried on Squeak 3.4, 4.6 and 5.3 but the ExtendedClipboardInterface is not loaded in these images.
Cheers, Bernhard
Hi Bernhard,
On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 5:27 AM Bernhard Pieber bernhard@pieber.com wrote:
Hi,
Maybe this question is better asked on the vm-dev list. Does anyone know the status of the ClipboardExtendedPlugin?
Not really. Ask John McIntosh. It is not built in the Squeak VM builds. With one modification (adding ClipboardExtendedPlugin.c to the files to be compiled in platforms/iOS/plugins/ClipboardExtendedPlugin/Makefile) it does appear to build on macOS. It does look useful though.
Happy New Year!
Happy new year!
Bernhard
Am 20.12.2021 um 09:38 schrieb Bernhard Pieber bernhard@pieber.com:
Hi everyone,
I tried to copy a form as PNG to the clipboard like this: ExtendedClipboardInterface current addClipboardDataConvertFormToPNG:
self imageForm
This seems not to work correctly. If I paste it to TextEdit I get the
binary data starting with PNG instead of the image itself. It looks as if the ClipboardExtendedPlugin is not loaded. The plugin seems to be in the current VM source (src/pugins/ClipboardExtendedPlugin), though. I am on macOS Big Sur 11.6.1.
Should this work? I tried on Squeak 3.4, 4.6 and 5.3 but the
ExtendedClipboardInterface is not loaded in these images.
Cheers, Bernhard
Hi Bernhard,
On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 5:27 AM Bernhard Pieber bernhard@pieber.com wrote:
Hi,
Maybe this question is better asked on the vm-dev list. Does anyone know the status of the ClipboardExtendedPlugin?
Happy New Year!
Bernhard
Am 20.12.2021 um 09:38 schrieb Bernhard Pieber bernhard@pieber.com:
Hi everyone,
I tried to copy a form as PNG to the clipboard like this: ExtendedClipboardInterface current addClipboardDataConvertFormToPNG:
self imageForm
With fixes to the plugin ClipboardExtendedPlugin.c generated C file to declare the interface it uses, and the Makefile to compile it, I am able to copy and paste the display into TextEdit on macOS 10.14. I'll commit fixes to the opensmalltalk-vm repository, and add the plugin to Squeak macOS builds. Thanks for the heads up :-)
This seems not to work correctly. If I paste it to TextEdit I get the
binary data starting with PNG instead of the image itself. It looks as if the ClipboardExtendedPlugin is not loaded. The plugin seems to be in the current VM source (src/pugins/ClipboardExtendedPlugin), though. I am on macOS Big Sur 11.6.1.
Should this work? I tried on Squeak 3.4, 4.6 and 5.3 but the
ExtendedClipboardInterface is not loaded in these images.
Cheers, Bernhard
In the OLPC days this plugin enabled copy/paste of objects, pictures. and rich text on all platforms (Mac/Win/X11).
E.g. you could copy/paste a morph from one image to another simply by bringing up its halo, pressing cmd-c, and pressing cmd-v in the other image. All its scripted behavior (Etoys scripts) would be transferred with it. If instead you pasted that morph into a word processor, it would insert a bitmap rendering of the morph.
Similarly you could copy a picture from a web browser and paste it directly into Squeak. Or copy syntax-highlighted source code from Squeak into an email.
I'm not entirely sure how much of the machinery made into Squeak trunk, but I would guess it's almost all there, might just need some wiring to hook up properly.
Vanessa
On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 5:07 PM Eliot Miranda eliot.miranda@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Bernhard,
On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 5:27 AM Bernhard Pieber bernhard@pieber.com wrote:
Hi,
Maybe this question is better asked on the vm-dev list. Does anyone know the status of the ClipboardExtendedPlugin?
Happy New Year!
Bernhard
Am 20.12.2021 um 09:38 schrieb Bernhard Pieber bernhard@pieber.com:
Hi everyone,
I tried to copy a form as PNG to the clipboard like this: ExtendedClipboardInterface current addClipboardDataConvertFormToPNG:
self imageForm
With fixes to the plugin ClipboardExtendedPlugin.c generated C file to declare the interface it uses, and the Makefile to compile it, I am able to copy and paste the display into TextEdit on macOS 10.14. I'll commit fixes to the opensmalltalk-vm repository, and add the plugin to Squeak macOS builds. Thanks for the heads up :-)
This seems not to work correctly. If I paste it to TextEdit I get the
binary data starting with PNG instead of the image itself. It looks as if the ClipboardExtendedPlugin is not loaded. The plugin seems to be in the current VM source (src/pugins/ClipboardExtendedPlugin), though. I am on macOS Big Sur 11.6.1.
Should this work? I tried on Squeak 3.4, 4.6 and 5.3 but the
ExtendedClipboardInterface is not loaded in these images.
Cheers, Bernhard
-- _,,,^..^,,,_ best, Eliot
Hi Vanessa,
On Jan 3, 2022, at 1:03 PM, Vanessa Freudenberg vanessa@codefrau.net wrote:
In the OLPC days this plugin enabled copy/paste of objects, pictures. and rich text on all platforms (Mac/Win/X11).
E.g. you could copy/paste a morph from one image to another simply by bringing up its halo, pressing cmd-c, and pressing cmd-v in the other image. All its scripted behavior (Etoys scripts) would be transferred with it. If instead you pasted that morph into a word processor, it would insert a bitmap rendering of the morph.
Similarly you could copy a picture from a web browser and paste it directly into Squeak. Or copy syntax-highlighted source code from Squeak into an email.
I'm not entirely sure how much of the machinery made into Squeak trunk, but I would guess it's almost all there, might just need some wiring to hook up properly.
The basic image classes are there. But only the Mac vm support machinery made it. There is no platforms/unix/plugins/ClipboardExtendedPlugin or platforms/win32/plugins/ClipboardExtendedPlugin that I can find. Where or who can we reach out to to try and locate this code?
Vanessa
On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 5:07 PM Eliot Miranda eliot.miranda@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Bernhard,
On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 5:27 AM Bernhard Pieber bernhard@pieber.com wrote:
Hi,
Maybe this question is better asked on the vm-dev list. Does anyone know the status of the ClipboardExtendedPlugin?
Happy New Year!
Bernhard
Am 20.12.2021 um 09:38 schrieb Bernhard Pieber bernhard@pieber.com:
Hi everyone,
I tried to copy a form as PNG to the clipboard like this: ExtendedClipboardInterface current addClipboardDataConvertFormToPNG: self imageForm
With fixes to the plugin ClipboardExtendedPlugin.c generated C file to declare the interface it uses, and the Makefile to compile it, I am able to copy and paste the display into TextEdit on macOS 10.14. I'll commit fixes to the opensmalltalk-vm repository, and add the plugin to Squeak macOS builds. Thanks for the heads up :-)
This seems not to work correctly. If I paste it to TextEdit I get the binary data starting with PNG instead of the image itself. It looks as if the ClipboardExtendedPlugin is not loaded. The plugin seems to be in the current VM source (src/pugins/ClipboardExtendedPlugin), though. I am on macOS Big Sur 11.6.1.
Should this work? I tried on Squeak 3.4, 4.6 and 5.3 but the ExtendedClipboardInterface is not loaded in these images.
Cheers, Bernhard
-- _,,,^..^,,,_ best, Eliot
On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 8:14 AM Eliot Miranda eliot.miranda@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Vanessa,
On Jan 3, 2022, at 1:03 PM, Vanessa Freudenberg vanessa@codefrau.net wrote:
In the OLPC days this plugin enabled copy/paste of objects, pictures. and rich text on all platforms (Mac/Win/X11).
E.g. you could copy/paste a morph from one image to another simply by bringing up its halo, pressing cmd-c, and pressing cmd-v in the other image. All its scripted behavior (Etoys scripts) would be transferred with it. If instead you pasted that morph into a word processor, it would insert a bitmap rendering of the morph.
Similarly you could copy a picture from a web browser and paste it directly into Squeak. Or copy syntax-highlighted source code from Squeak into an email.
I'm not entirely sure how much of the machinery made into Squeak trunk, but I would guess it's almost all there, might just need some wiring to hook up properly.
The basic image classes are there. But only the Mac vm support machinery made it. There is no platforms/unix/plugins/ClipboardExtendedPlugin or platforms/win32/plugins/ClipboardExtendedPlugin that I can find. Where or who can we reach out to to try and locate this code?
The unix plugin is in the interpreter sources:
http://squeakvm.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/squeak/trunk/platforms/unix/plugins/C...
with the X11 support code in the display plugin:
http://squeakvm.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/squeak/trunk/platforms/unix/vm-displa...
I don't see the equivalent in win32, possibly I was misremembering that it worked on all three platforms (I only ever use Mac and *nix).
Vanessa
Vanessa
On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 5:07 PM Eliot Miranda eliot.miranda@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Bernhard,
On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 5:27 AM Bernhard Pieber bernhard@pieber.com wrote:
Hi,
Maybe this question is better asked on the vm-dev list. Does anyone know the status of the ClipboardExtendedPlugin?
Happy New Year!
Bernhard
Am 20.12.2021 um 09:38 schrieb Bernhard Pieber bernhard@pieber.com:
Hi everyone,
I tried to copy a form as PNG to the clipboard like this: ExtendedClipboardInterface current addClipboardDataConvertFormToPNG:
self imageForm
With fixes to the plugin ClipboardExtendedPlugin.c generated C file to declare the interface it uses, and the Makefile to compile it, I am able to copy and paste the display into TextEdit on macOS 10.14. I'll commit fixes to the opensmalltalk-vm repository, and add the plugin to Squeak macOS builds. Thanks for the heads up :-)
This seems not to work correctly. If I paste it to TextEdit I get the
binary data starting with PNG instead of the image itself. It looks as if the ClipboardExtendedPlugin is not loaded. The plugin seems to be in the current VM source (src/pugins/ClipboardExtendedPlugin), though. I am on macOS Big Sur 11.6.1.
Should this work? I tried on Squeak 3.4, 4.6 and 5.3 but the
ExtendedClipboardInterface is not loaded in these images.
Cheers, Bernhard
-- _,,,^..^,,,_ best, Eliot
On 1/4/2022 3:26 PM, Vanessa Freudenberg wrote:
On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 8:14 AM Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda@gmail.com mailto:eliot.miranda@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Vanessa,On Jan 3, 2022, at 1:03 PM, Vanessa Freudenberg <vanessa@codefrau.net <mailto:vanessa@codefrau.net>> wrote: In the OLPC days this plugin enabled copy/paste of objects, pictures. and rich text on all platforms (Mac/Win/X11). E.g. you could copy/paste a morph from one image to another simply by bringing up its halo, pressing cmd-c, and pressing cmd-v in the other image. All its scripted behavior (Etoys scripts) would be transferred with it. If instead you pasted that morph into a word processor, it would insert a bitmap rendering of the morph. Similarly you could copy a picture from a web browser and paste it directly into Squeak. Or copy syntax-highlighted source code from Squeak into an email. I'm not entirely sure how much of the machinery made into Squeak trunk, but I would guess it's almost all there, might just need some wiring to hook up properly.The basic image classes are there. But only the Mac vm support machinery made it. There is no platforms/unix/plugins/ClipboardExtendedPlugin or platforms/win32/plugins/ClipboardExtendedPlugin that I can find. Where or who can we reach out to to try and locate this code?The unix plugin is in the interpreter sources:
http://squeakvm.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/squeak/trunk/platforms/unix/plugins/C...
with the X11 support code in the display plugin:
http://squeakvm.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/squeak/trunk/platforms/unix/vm-displa... http://squeakvm.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/squeak/trunk/platforms/unix/vm-display-X11/sqUnixX11.c?revision=3796&view=markup#l2465
I don't see the equivalent in win32, possibly I was misremembering that it worked on all three platforms (I only ever use Mac and *nix).
Vanessa
I believe I took related code from Sophie. In Cuis you can copy / paste various things between images and external programs as Vanessa says. Haven't used it in a long time, though.
The Windows support calls stuff in user32.dll via ffi, i.e. no plugin. It doesn't support writing to clipboard. I believe Mac and Linux support is more complete.
Vanessa On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 5:07 PM Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda@gmail.com <mailto:eliot.miranda@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Bernhard, On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 5:27 AM Bernhard Pieber <bernhard@pieber.com <mailto:bernhard@pieber.com>> wrote: Hi, Maybe this question is better asked on the vm-dev list. Does anyone know the status of the ClipboardExtendedPlugin? Happy New Year! Bernhard > Am 20.12.2021 um 09:38 schrieb Bernhard Pieber <bernhard@pieber.com <mailto:bernhard@pieber.com>>: > > Hi everyone, > > I tried to copy a form as PNG to the clipboard like this: > ExtendedClipboardInterface current addClipboardDataConvertFormToPNG: self imageForm With fixes to the plugin ClipboardExtendedPlugin.c generated C file to declare the interface it uses, and the Makefile to compile it, I am able to copy and paste the display into TextEdit on macOS 10.14. I'll commit fixes to the opensmalltalk-vm repository, and add the plugin to Squeak macOS builds. Thanks for the heads up :-) > > This seems not to work correctly. If I paste it to TextEdit I get the binary data starting with PNG instead of the image itself. It looks as if the ClipboardExtendedPlugin is not loaded. The plugin seems to be in the current VM source (src/pugins/ClipboardExtendedPlugin), though. I am on macOS Big Sur 11.6.1. > > Should this work? I tried on Squeak 3.4, 4.6 and 5.3 but the ExtendedClipboardInterface is not loaded in these images. > > Cheers, > Bernhard -- _,,,^..^,,,_ best, Eliot
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