I'm going to make a pass at establishing the identities of all the contributors to the VM codebase so we can (hopefully) declare it MIT clean on squeaksource etc.
If anyone has code that can help to extract method stamp initials from all the VMMaker package code I'd be very happy to receive a copy; I don't want to duplicate effort. There's several dozen mcz packages to scan and there are many, many changeset files from before the existence of VMMaker as well. I think it unlikely that there is anyone not already signed up for the relicensing but better safe than sued.
tim -- tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Useful random insult:- A room temperature IQ.
Obviously don't forget the C source code (non slang generated) in this review.
On Apr 2, 2008, at 1:36 PM, tim Rowledge wrote:
I'm going to make a pass at establishing the identities of all the contributors to the VM codebase so we can (hopefully) declare it MIT clean on squeaksource etc.
If anyone has code that can help to extract method stamp initials from all the VMMaker package code I'd be very happy to receive a copy; I don't want to duplicate effort. There's several dozen mcz packages to scan and there are many, many changeset files from before the existence of VMMaker as well. I think it unlikely that there is anyone not already signed up for the relicensing but better safe than sued.
tim
tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Useful random insult:- A room temperature IQ.
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So no responses at all to this? Does anyone care about the license status of VMMaker?
On 2-Apr-08, at 1:36 PM, tim Rowledge wrote:
I'm going to make a pass at establishing the identities of all the contributors to the VM codebase so we can (hopefully) declare it MIT clean on squeaksource etc.
If anyone has code that can help to extract method stamp initials from all the VMMaker package code I'd be very happy to receive a copy; I don't want to duplicate effort. There's several dozen mcz packages to scan and there are many, many changeset files from before the existence of VMMaker as well. I think it unlikely that there is anyone not already signed up for the relicensing but better safe than sued.
tim
tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Useful random insult:- A room temperature IQ.
tim -- tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Klingon Code Warrior:- 1) "Behold, the keyboard of Kalis! The greatest Klingon code warrior that ever lived!"
Don't have what you need. However since you appear to be working on VMMaker, I was wondering about your take on the need for having plugins in the VMMaker Plugins category. At least it seemed to me that you have to put them there in order for VMMaker to pick them up. Somehow it seems odd to me to have all of a plugin's classes in its own category, except the plugin which has to go somewhat illogically in the VMMaker Plugin category. Most likely its a lot of work to do it any other way. Or am I missing something?
Ken G. Brown
At 7:45 PM -0700 4/10/08, tim Rowledge apparently wrote:
So no responses at all to this? Does anyone care about the license status of VMMaker?
On 2-Apr-08, at 1:36 PM, tim Rowledge wrote:
I'm going to make a pass at establishing the identities of all the contributors to the VM codebase so we can (hopefully) declare it MIT clean on squeaksource etc.
If anyone has code that can help to extract method stamp initials from all the VMMaker package code I'd be very happy to receive a copy; I don't want to duplicate effort. There's several dozen mcz packages to scan and there are many, many changeset files from before the existence of VMMaker as well. I think it unlikely that there is anyone not already signed up for the relicensing but better safe than sued.
tim
tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Useful random insult:- A room temperature IQ.
tim
tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Klingon Code Warrior:- 1) "Behold, the keyboard of Kalis! The greatest Klingon code warrior that ever lived!"
On 10-Apr-08, at 8:21 PM, Ken G. Brown wrote:
Don't have what you need. However since you appear to be working on VMMaker, I was wondering about your take on the need for having plugins in the VMMaker Plugins category. At least it seemed to me that you have to put them there in order for VMMaker to pick them up. Somehow it seems odd to me to have all of a plugin's classes in its own category, except the plugin which has to go somewhat illogically in the VMMaker Plugin category. Most likely its a lot of work to do it any other way. Or am I missing something?
Well the main list of plugin classes to work on is derived from providedPlugins "generate the list by asking the InterpreterPlugins" ^ ((InterpreterPlugin allSubclasses select: [:cl | cl shouldBeTranslated]) collect: [:cl | cl name]) asSortedCollection so, yes, I think you've got confused.
From there any plugin has to be moved to either the internal or external list in order to get actually processed - the UI in VMMakerTool does it by direct manipulation and the various methods in VMMaker>initialize like initializeInternal:external: allow for scripted usage.
tim -- tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Strange OpCodes: IA: Illogical And
At 10:27 PM -0700 4/10/08, tim Rowledge apparently wrote:
On 10-Apr-08, at 8:21 PM, Ken G. Brown wrote:
Don't have what you need. However since you appear to be working on VMMaker, I was wondering about your take on the need for having plugins in the VMMaker Plugins category. At least it seemed to me that you have to put them there in order for VMMaker to pick them up. Somehow it seems odd to me to have all of a plugin's classes in its own category, except the plugin which has to go somewhat illogically in the VMMaker Plugin category. Most likely its a lot of work to do it any other way. Or am I missing something?
Well the main list of plugin classes to work on is derived from providedPlugins "generate the list by asking the InterpreterPlugins" ^ ((InterpreterPlugin allSubclasses select: [:cl | cl shouldBeTranslated]) collect: [:cl | cl name]) asSortedCollection so, yes, I think you've got confused.
Hmmm...ok. The way it works is making more sense to me then. I had added plugin code to the image but for some reason, I did not see it in VMMakerTool 'Plugins Not Built' list until I changed the plugin category to VMMaker-Plugins, I had assumed that was where it needed to live in order to be picked up in the list. I'll try moving the plugin back to its own category and see if I can duplicate what I thought happened.
Thx, Ken G. Brown
From there any plugin has to be moved to either the internal or external list in order to get actually processed - the UI in VMMakerTool does it by direct manipulation and the various methods in VMMaker>initialize like initializeInternal:external: allow for scripted usage.
tim
tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Strange OpCodes: IA: Illogical And
At 11:55 PM -0600 4/10/08, Ken G. Brown apparently wrote:
At 10:27 PM -0700 4/10/08, tim Rowledge apparently wrote:
On 10-Apr-08, at 8:21 PM, Ken G. Brown wrote:
Don't have what you need. However since you appear to be working on VMMaker, I was wondering about your take on the need for having plugins in the VMMaker Plugins category. At least it seemed to me that you have to put them there in order for VMMaker to pick them up. Somehow it seems odd to me to have all of a plugin's classes in its own category, except the plugin which has to go somewhat illogically in the VMMaker Plugin category. Most likely its a lot of work to do it any other way. Or am I missing something?
Well the main list of plugin classes to work on is derived from providedPlugins "generate the list by asking the InterpreterPlugins" ^ ((InterpreterPlugin allSubclasses select: [:cl | cl shouldBeTranslated]) collect: [:cl | cl name]) asSortedCollection so, yes, I think you've got confused.
Hmmm...ok. The way it works is making more sense to me then. I had added plugin code to the image but for some reason, I did not see it in VMMakerTool 'Plugins Not Built' list until I changed the plugin category to VMMaker-Plugins, I had assumed that was where it needed to live in order to be picked up in the list. I'll try moving the plugin back to its own category and see if I can duplicate what I thought happened.
Ok, it appears what happened was that I must have had VMMakerTool open before I loaded the plugin code and it did not update or find the plugin by the time when I originally looked. I then saw the other plugins in VMMaker-Plugins so changed category of the plugin I loaded to the VMMaker-Plugins and then saw it show in the list. I don't remember for sure what I did originally, but this time, closing and opening VMMakerTool again shows the plugin properly even tho it still lives in its own category now. Great!
What are the conditions that cause VMMakerTool rebuild its lists?
Thx, Ken
Thx, Ken G. Brown
From there any plugin has to be moved to either the internal or external list in order to get actually processed - the UI in VMMakerTool does it by direct manipulation and the various methods in VMMaker>initialize like initializeInternal:external: allow for scripted usage.
tim
tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Strange OpCodes: IA: Illogical And
On 11-Apr-08, at 10:55 AM, Ken G. Brown wrote:
Ok, it appears what happened was that I must have had VMMakerTool open before I loaded the plugin code and it did not update or find the plugin by the time when I originally looked. I then saw the other plugins in VMMaker-Plugins so changed category of the plugin I loaded to the VMMaker-Plugins and then saw it show in the list. I don't remember for sure what I did originally, but this time, closing and opening VMMakerTool again shows the plugin properly even tho it still lives in its own category now. Great!
What are the conditions that cause VMMakerTool rebuild its lists?
Hmm, well one would have to exhaustivley trace all the possible ways of #availableModules getting sent, which after a couple of quick looks seems to be a large number. I reckon the easiest one to use in the short term is the menu option 'make all available' in the middlebutton menus for the Plugins not built/Internal Plugins/External Plugins lists.
I expect someone could make compiling any suitable class send #changed: #reinitialize to any and all open VMMaker instances if it seems important enough.
tim -- tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Useful random insult:- The wheel's spinning but the hamster's dead.
Not sure what you're looking for. All I have is already up at http://ftp.squeak.org/history - if there's anything in particular I can help with, let me know.
Cheers, - Andreas
tim Rowledge wrote:
So no responses at all to this? Does anyone care about the license status of VMMaker?
On 2-Apr-08, at 1:36 PM, tim Rowledge wrote:
I'm going to make a pass at establishing the identities of all the contributors to the VM codebase so we can (hopefully) declare it MIT clean on squeaksource etc.
If anyone has code that can help to extract method stamp initials from all the VMMaker package code I'd be very happy to receive a copy; I don't want to duplicate effort. There's several dozen mcz packages to scan and there are many, many changeset files from before the existence of VMMaker as well. I think it unlikely that there is anyone not already signed up for the relicensing but better safe than sued.
tim
tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Useful random insult:- A room temperature IQ.
tim
tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Klingon Code Warrior:- 1) "Behold, the keyboard of Kalis! The greatest Klingon code warrior that ever lived!"
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