Hi,
I am pleased to announce that the Android port of Stack Cog has reached the public alpha stage, and the first pre-built apk file is available for downloading:
http://squeakvm-tablet.googlecode.com/files/CogDroid-alpha-20110903.apk
This is a debug-signed Android package. When installed, it uses the Pharo icon (to distinguish from the Squeak package in case it is installed). In the future, I'll change the icon to something different.
It was tested mostly with one of recent Pharo Core images, and this kind of image is suggested for experiments, but information about any other images is also welcome. Place the image, changes, and sources files in a directory under the root of your tablet's SD card mount point. When the application is launched, it will show list of all image files available.
Information provided in the Wiki pages of the Google Code project for the classic VM port is valid for the Cog port as well.
http://code.google.com/p/squeakvm-tablet/w/list
See the CogNotes page http://code.google.com/p/squeakvm-tablet/wiki/CogNotes for information about location of sources, and (very sketchy at the moment) building procedure.
As usual, please send your feedback to this mailing list, or to the Google code project issues page:
http://code.google.com/p/squeakvm-tablet/issues/list
Try running the tinyBenchmark (Cog gives slightly better results than the Classic VM). You may also try the Test Runner. Please let me know if your favorite tests failed, and any ideas why they might fail ;)
From my experience running tests amount of failures is not much higher
than same tests run on PC Cog/Pharo.
Have fun and share your experience ;)
Thanks.
Very nice, Dimitry!
Is it ok to merge your CMakeVMMaker package into VMMaker repository?
On 3 September 2011 08:07, Dimitry Golubovsky golubovsky@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I am pleased to announce that the Android port of Stack Cog has reached the public alpha stage, and the first pre-built apk file is available for downloading:
http://squeakvm-tablet.googlecode.com/files/CogDroid-alpha-20110903.apk
This is a debug-signed Android package. When installed, it uses the Pharo icon (to distinguish from the Squeak package in case it is installed). In the future, I'll change the icon to something different.
It was tested mostly with one of recent Pharo Core images, and this kind of image is suggested for experiments, but information about any other images is also welcome. Place the image, changes, and sources files in a directory under the root of your tablet's SD card mount point. When the application is launched, it will show list of all image files available.
Information provided in the Wiki pages of the Google Code project for the classic VM port is valid for the Cog port as well.
http://code.google.com/p/squeakvm-tablet/w/list
See the CogNotes page http://code.google.com/p/squeakvm-tablet/wiki/CogNotes for information about location of sources, and (very sketchy at the moment) building procedure.
As usual, please send your feedback to this mailing list, or to the Google code project issues page:
http://code.google.com/p/squeakvm-tablet/issues/list
Try running the tinyBenchmark (Cog gives slightly better results than the Classic VM). You may also try the Test Runner. Please let me know if your favorite tests failed, and any ideas why they might fail ;)
From my experience running tests amount of failures is not much higher
than same tests run on PC Cog/Pharo.
Have fun and share your experience ;)
Thanks.
-- Dimitry Golubovsky
Anywhere on the Web
Excellent
let us know if you need specific actions from image side. I was discussing with igor yesterday and one of these days we will kill all the polling event code and switch to event driven since now the vms support this.
Stef
On Sep 3, 2011, at 7:07 AM, Dimitry Golubovsky wrote:
Hi,
I am pleased to announce that the Android port of Stack Cog has reached the public alpha stage, and the first pre-built apk file is available for downloading:
http://squeakvm-tablet.googlecode.com/files/CogDroid-alpha-20110903.apk
This is a debug-signed Android package. When installed, it uses the Pharo icon (to distinguish from the Squeak package in case it is installed). In the future, I'll change the icon to something different.
It was tested mostly with one of recent Pharo Core images, and this kind of image is suggested for experiments, but information about any other images is also welcome. Place the image, changes, and sources files in a directory under the root of your tablet's SD card mount point. When the application is launched, it will show list of all image files available.
Information provided in the Wiki pages of the Google Code project for the classic VM port is valid for the Cog port as well.
http://code.google.com/p/squeakvm-tablet/w/list
See the CogNotes page http://code.google.com/p/squeakvm-tablet/wiki/CogNotes for information about location of sources, and (very sketchy at the moment) building procedure.
As usual, please send your feedback to this mailing list, or to the Google code project issues page:
http://code.google.com/p/squeakvm-tablet/issues/list
Try running the tinyBenchmark (Cog gives slightly better results than the Classic VM). You may also try the Test Runner. Please let me know if your favorite tests failed, and any ideas why they might fail ;)
From my experience running tests amount of failures is not much higher
than same tests run on PC Cog/Pharo.
Have fun and share your experience ;)
Thanks.
-- Dimitry Golubovsky
Anywhere on the Web
Hi Dimitry. Congratulations!!! I really like to see all these forks of the squeak/cog VM in different platforms such as Android, iPhone, Chrome, etc...
cheers
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 8:49 AM, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse@gmail.com
wrote:
Excellent
let us know if you need specific actions from image side. I was discussing with igor yesterday and one of these days we will kill all the polling event code and switch to event driven since now the vms support this.
Stef
On Sep 3, 2011, at 7:07 AM, Dimitry Golubovsky wrote:
Hi,
I am pleased to announce that the Android port of Stack Cog has reached the public alpha stage, and the first pre-built apk file is available for downloading:
http://squeakvm-tablet.googlecode.com/files/CogDroid-alpha-20110903.apk
This is a debug-signed Android package. When installed, it uses the Pharo icon (to distinguish from the Squeak package in case it is installed). In the future, I'll change the icon to something different.
It was tested mostly with one of recent Pharo Core images, and this kind of image is suggested for experiments, but information about any other images is also welcome. Place the image, changes, and sources files in a directory under the root of your tablet's SD card mount point. When the application is launched, it will show list of all image files available.
Information provided in the Wiki pages of the Google Code project for the classic VM port is valid for the Cog port as well.
http://code.google.com/p/squeakvm-tablet/w/list
See the CogNotes page http://code.google.com/p/squeakvm-tablet/wiki/CogNotes for information about location of sources, and (very sketchy at the moment) building procedure.
As usual, please send your feedback to this mailing list, or to the Google code project issues page:
http://code.google.com/p/squeakvm-tablet/issues/list
Try running the tinyBenchmark (Cog gives slightly better results than the Classic VM). You may also try the Test Runner. Please let me know if your favorite tests failed, and any ideas why they might fail ;)
From my experience running tests amount of failures is not much higher
than same tests run on PC Cog/Pharo.
Have fun and share your experience ;)
Thanks.
-- Dimitry Golubovsky
Anywhere on the Web
2011/9/3 Mariano Martinez Peck marianopeck@gmail.com:
Hi Dimitry. Congratulations!!! I really like to see all these forks of the squeak/cog VM in different platforms such as Android, iPhone, Chrome, etc...
cheers
+1!
Hi,
Thanks for the interest to the CogDroid alpha. Answering to all questions here.
@Gary: I'm afraid I am almost the one involved with this at the moment ;) I do not have a specific timetable, and my next step is to create a meaningful tool to make JNI calls to the Java libraries available on Android, since Google discourages many things to be done natively. I think I'll announce beta after that's ready. Regarding etoys, I think it is possible to try the original image, or whatever is available from the Scat project [1] (OK, that's Scratch, but IMHO similar purpose) with the new VM. Monticello should work (or if it does not work in any way, please let me know). In other words, the more people help me with testing, the sooner we get a higher grade release.
Regarding older images, one thing to keep in mind is how much polling they have [2]. Although I (remembering from prior discussions) also made browserPluginExitIfNeeded (sp?) to exit the interpreter if it is running too long (current time quant is 200ms although this si very soft rule), so event serverMode may be not so necessary. The VM writes a log file located at /sdcard/jni.log. Upon exit (via the Quit/Save and quit item of the world menu) it writes VM time statistics in that file: what was average time in interpreter, average time between interpreter calls, etc. This may also give some idea.
@Igor: There are three things to merge simultanesously. My dmg-blessed repo at Gitorious [3], and the two packages at squeaksource.com/EventVM: CMakeVMMaker-golubovsky.138.mcz and VMMaker-oscog-golubovsky.121.mcz Not sure how you adjust ConfigurationOfCog for these, but I think they should go to the bleeding edge configuration. Besides, can Google SDK and NDK be installed on Hudson to test at least buildability? Or I might install a build slave at my computer solely to test Android builds, but we need to discuss this in separate thread.
@Stephane: I don't think of any actions on the image side at the moment since it works with 1.3, and after involving the timed executionI was able to even draw a PolygonMorph (although very slowly, but at least the application did not crash every time, only sometimes ;)
@Mariano: Thanks.
And we have the first benchmark (will also add it to the wiki):
Notion Ink Adam, Android 2.2
1 GHz, Dual-core ARM Cortex -A9, Nvidia Tegra 250
Classic VM - Squeak 3.9 36,930,178 bytecodes/s 1,201,501 sends/s
Stack Cog - Squeak 3.9 41,775,456 bytecodes/s 2,074,373 sends/s
which seems a very good speed improvement.
------------------------------- [1] http://code.google.com/p/scat/ [2] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/vm-dev/2011-August/009209.html [3] http://gitorious.org/~golubovsky/cogvm/dmg-blessed
Great to hear that squeak on android is moving forward :-)
I got stuck with the squeak-android-vm Project because i could not get Sockets/ Networking to work: http://code.google.com/p/squeak-android-vm/
Does networking have a priority in your port?
Anyone interested in supporting the networking-part?
Tried your port on Samsung Galaxy S I9000 with Android 2.2 but got only a blank/ black screen. But this is no tablet, it's a cell-phone ...
regards, Stefan
2011/9/3 Dimitry Golubovsky golubovsky@gmail.com:
Hi,
I am pleased to announce that the Android port of Stack Cog has reached the public alpha stage, and the first pre-built apk file is available for downloading:
http://squeakvm-tablet.googlecode.com/files/CogDroid-alpha-20110903.apk
This is a debug-signed Android package. When installed, it uses the Pharo icon (to distinguish from the Squeak package in case it is installed). In the future, I'll change the icon to something different.
It was tested mostly with one of recent Pharo Core images, and this kind of image is suggested for experiments, but information about any other images is also welcome. Place the image, changes, and sources files in a directory under the root of your tablet's SD card mount point. When the application is launched, it will show list of all image files available.
Information provided in the Wiki pages of the Google Code project for the classic VM port is valid for the Cog port as well.
http://code.google.com/p/squeakvm-tablet/w/list
See the CogNotes page http://code.google.com/p/squeakvm-tablet/wiki/CogNotes for information about location of sources, and (very sketchy at the moment) building procedure.
As usual, please send your feedback to this mailing list, or to the Google code project issues page:
http://code.google.com/p/squeakvm-tablet/issues/list
Try running the tinyBenchmark (Cog gives slightly better results than the Classic VM). You may also try the Test Runner. Please let me know if your favorite tests failed, and any ideas why they might fail ;)
From my experience running tests amount of failures is not much higher
than same tests run on PC Cog/Pharo.
Have fun and share your experience ;)
Thanks.
-- Dimitry Golubovsky
Anywhere on the Web
In my tablet it took quite a while to go from a bpank screen to the list of images in the Presentation folder, it may be the same with you.
Daniel Yokomizo. On Sep 6, 2011 5:13 AM, "Stefan Krecher" stefan@krecher.com wrote:
Great to hear that squeak on android is moving forward :-)
I got stuck with the squeak-android-vm Project because i could not get Sockets/ Networking to work: http://code.google.com/p/squeak-android-vm/
Does networking have a priority in your port?
Anyone interested in supporting the networking-part?
Tried your port on Samsung Galaxy S I9000 with Android 2.2 but got only a blank/ black screen. But this is no tablet, it's a cell-phone ...
regards, Stefan
2011/9/3 Dimitry Golubovsky golubovsky@gmail.com:
Hi,
I am pleased to announce that the Android port of Stack Cog has reached the public alpha stage, and the first pre-built apk file is available for downloading:
http://squeakvm-tablet.googlecode.com/files/CogDroid-alpha-20110903.apk
This is a debug-signed Android package. When installed, it uses the Pharo icon (to distinguish from the Squeak package in case it is installed). In the future, I'll change the icon to something different.
It was tested mostly with one of recent Pharo Core images, and this kind of image is suggested for experiments, but information about any other images is also welcome. Place the image, changes, and sources files in a directory under the root of your tablet's SD card mount point. When the application is launched, it will show list of all image files available.
Information provided in the Wiki pages of the Google Code project for the classic VM port is valid for the Cog port as well.
http://code.google.com/p/squeakvm-tablet/w/list
See the CogNotes page http://code.google.com/p/squeakvm-tablet/wiki/CogNotes for information about location of sources, and (very sketchy at the moment) building procedure.
As usual, please send your feedback to this mailing list, or to the Google code project issues page:
http://code.google.com/p/squeakvm-tablet/issues/list
Try running the tinyBenchmark (Cog gives slightly better results than the Classic VM). You may also try the Test Runner. Please let me know if your favorite tests failed, and any ideas why they might fail ;)
From my experience running tests amount of failures is not much higher
than same tests run on PC Cog/Pharo.
Have fun and share your experience ;)
Thanks.
-- Dimitry Golubovsky
Anywhere on the Web
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