Squeak-dev November 2014

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Re: [Seaside] Someone to tackle failing tests in Squeak?
by David T. Lewis 11 Nov '14

11 Nov '14

On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 05:23:00PM +0100, Johan Brichau wrote: > Hi David, > > > Is there a way that I can download an image with the failing tests? Sorry > > if this is dumb question, but I don't know much about travis-ci. > > Sorry, there is no way to save files on Travis CI. It???s a build service only. > If you want to have a Squeak image with that version of Seaside, you should make it locally yourself. > > > These are the failing tests, so I expect it will be an easy problem to debug: > > > > WAExternalFileLibraryTest debug: #testAsAbsoluteUrlRelativeTo. > > WAExternalFileLibraryTest debug: #testPathForRequest. > > Yes, it???s not much at all. > Just that we don???t have the spare cycles to also maintain Squeak. I set up the build process to check, but we need someone to follow up and fix. Recently Tobias did some work but he might need some help. > Hi Johan, I started with Tobias' prepared image from ftp://ftp.squeak.org/4.4/seaside/, then used the Squeak trunk update stream to perform a full update of that image to the latest Squeak. This gives a current Squeak with the older Seaside 3.0 loaded. At that point, the two tests are still passing. Now I want to update this image to the latest Seaside 3.2 in order to find the cause of the failures. I tried manually loading all Grease packages from http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Seaside/Grease11/main, and Seaside packages from http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Seaside/Seaside32/main. I am now getting some test failures related to FileSystem, so I suspect that I may have loaded some Pharo packages that I should not have included, or maybe I do not have the correct version of Grease. Is there a Metacello configuration for Seaside that I should be using to get me closer to the correct configuration? Thanks, Dave

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Re: [Vm-dev] [ANN] ARM Stack VMs available
by Douglas McPherson 10 Nov '14

10 Nov '14

Hi Ken, > On Nov 9, 2014, at 20:34, Ken.Dickey <Ken.Dickey(a)whidbey.com> wrote: > > On Sun, 9 Nov 2014 17:10:26 -0800 > Douglas McPherson <djm1329(a)san.rr.com> wrote: > >> Pre-built Squeak stack and stack/spur VMs for ARMv6 (i.e. Raspberry >> Pi) and ARMv7 (i.e. BeagleBone Black, Parallella, numerous >> Chromebooks, etc) are now available at the same location as the other >> Cog and Spur VMs. >> ( http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r3126/ >> <http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r3126/> ). > > Doug, > > Thanks much! I can run CUIS Smalltalk fine on a Samsung ARMv7 > Chromebook using the v7 stklinuxhtARM VM. > Excellent! > The stkspurlinuxhtARM VM, however, complains: > This interpreter (vers. 6521) cannot read image file (vers. 6505). > > I presume some conversion is required to get the image into SPUR format? > Yes, the Spur VMs require a new image format. There are recent Squeak trunk images in the spur format on Eliot’s site. I’ll let Eliot and others comment about how a Cuis image might be converted. > Thanks much, > --KenD Doug

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New Cog VMs available
by Eliot Miranda 10 Nov '14

10 Nov '14

... at http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r3126/ CogVM binaries as per VMMaker.oscogvm-eem.923/r3126 Include the Unicode plugin in linux Squeak VMs. Include the vm-sound-pulse plugin in all linux VMs. Spur Newspeak: Fix possible forwarding of receiver in implicit receiver sends. -- best, Eliot

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Seaside installation link is dead - what should it be?
by David T. Lewis 09 Nov '14

09 Nov '14

I was alarmed to find that the Squeak download link on http://www.seaside.st/download is a dead link. It is pointing to http://www.squeak.org/Documentation/Installation/#h-5 which no longer exists. Can someone suggest an up-to-date link for the Squeak Seaside installation? There is a nice page on the wiki at http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2272, but I do not know if it is current. Presumably we should have some link to Tobias Pape's prepared images, such as the Squeak 4.4 image at ftp://ftp.squeak.org/4.4/seaside/. IIRC, Tobias has also done a newer prepared image for Squeak 4.5, but I do not find it on our ftp server. I am not currently doing any Seaside work, but projects like Seaside and Aida are really important. We should keep these links working! Dave

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Re: [Seaside] Someone to tackle failing tests in Squeak?
by David T. Lewis 09 Nov '14

09 Nov '14

On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 11:12:22AM +0100, Johan Brichau wrote: > Hi everyone, > > The Travis build on github for the (not yet released) Seaside 3.2.0 is failing for Squeak [1]. > Can someone working with Squeak have a look at this? > > Thanks! > Johan > > [1] https://travis-ci.org/SeasideSt/Seaside/builds/40377175 <https://travis-ci.org/SeasideSt/Seaside/builds/40377175> > Hi Johan, (CC to squeak-dev) Is there a way that I can download an image with the failing tests? Sorry if this is dumb question, but I don't know much about travis-ci. These are the failing tests, so I expect it will be an easy problem to debug: WAExternalFileLibraryTest debug: #testAsAbsoluteUrlRelativeTo. WAExternalFileLibraryTest debug: #testPathForRequest. Thank you! Dave

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Re: Original Squeak Release files?
by Bert Freudenberg 08 Nov '14

08 Nov '14

On 08.11.2014, at 14:34, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Hi bert > > I will build a dropbox to give you what I have. > > Stef Got it, thank you! Unfortunately the original Mac release isn't in there either. It was released on September 21, 1996. The oldest we have is Ian's from 21 October 1996, according to the changes files. The cleanest appears to be Andreas's Squeak1.1w from 28 October 1996. I'll paste the change stamps below for anyone interested ... - Bert - 1.1.3/Squeak1.13u.changes 'From Squeak 1.1 of September 21, 1996 on 23 September 1996 at 8:34:59 pm'! ----SNAPSHOT----(23 September 1996 8:36:00 pm )! ----SNAPSHOT----(23 September 1996 8:37:25 pm )! ----QUIT----(23 September 1996 8:46:53 pm )! ----SNAPSHOT----(24 September 1996 10:21:44 am )! ----SNAPSHOT----(24 September 1996 10:26:23 am )! ----SNAPSHOT----(24 September 1996 10:28:44 am )! ----SNAPSHOT----(24 September 1996 10:32:39 am )! ----SNAPSHOT----(24 September 1996 10:35:21 am )! ----QUIT----(24 September 1996 10:40:48 am )! ----SAVEAS nfibs----(9 October 1996 2:00:42 pm )! ----SAVEAS sq----(14 October 1996 8:52:59 pm )! ----SAVEAS temp----(14 October 1996 9:02:35 pm )! ----QUIT----(18 October 1996 2:35:59 pm )! ----SAVEAS new----(18 October 1996 2:39:40 pm )! ----QUIT----(18 October 1996 2:45:00 pm )! ----SNAPSHOT----(18 October 1996 2:54:54 pm )! ----SNAPSHOT----(18 October 1996 3:03:06 pm )! ----SNAPSHOT----(18 October 1996 3:04:47 pm )! 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----SNAPSHOT----(21 October 1996 4:36:13 pm )! ----QUIT----(21 October 1996 4:36:23 pm )! ----SNAPSHOT----(21 October 1996 5:33:25 pm )! ----SNAPSHOT----(21 October 1996 5:35:13 pm )! ----SNAPSHOT----(28 October 1996 1:46:39 pm )! ----QUIT----(28 October 1996 2:21:48 pm )! ----QUIT----(28 October 1996 4:31:10 pm )! 1.1/Squeak1.1w.changes 'From Squeak 1.1 of September 21, 1996 on 23 September 1996 at 8:34:59 pm'! ----SNAPSHOT----(23 September 1996 8:36:00 pm )! ----SNAPSHOT----(23 September 1996 8:37:25 pm )! ----QUIT----(23 September 1996 8:46:53 pm )! ----SNAPSHOT----(24 September 1996 10:21:44 am )! ----SNAPSHOT----(24 September 1996 10:26:23 am )! ----SNAPSHOT----(24 September 1996 10:28:44 am )! ----SNAPSHOT----(24 September 1996 10:32:39 am )! ----SNAPSHOT----(24 September 1996 10:35:21 am )! ----QUIT----(24 September 1996 10:40:48 am )! ----QUIT----(28 October 1996 6:38:25 pm )! 1.1.6/Squeak1.16u.changes 'From Squeak 1.1 of September 21, 1996 on 23 September 1996 at 8:34:59 pm'! ----SNAPSHOT----(23 September 1996 8:36:00 pm )! ----SNAPSHOT----(23 September 1996 8:37:25 pm )! ----QUIT----(23 September 1996 8:46:53 pm )! ----SNAPSHOT----(24 September 1996 10:21:44 am )! ----SNAPSHOT----(24 September 1996 10:26:23 am )! ----SNAPSHOT----(24 September 1996 10:28:44 am )! ----SNAPSHOT----(24 September 1996 10:32:39 am )! ----SNAPSHOT----(24 September 1996 10:35:21 am )! ----QUIT----(24 September 1996 10:40:48 am )! ----SNAPSHOT----(17 October 1996 3:05:27 pm )! ----QUIT----(17 October 1996 3:35:04 pm )! ----QUIT----(18 October 1996 2:02:34 pm )! ----QUIT----(5 November 1996 9:48:38 pm )! ----QUIT----(5 November 1996 10:00:47 pm ) priorSource: 984133! ----QUIT----(5 November 1996 10:12:43 pm ) priorSource: 1118930! ----QUIT----(5 November 1996 10:17:59 pm ) priorSource: 1118995! ----QUIT----(5 November 1996 10:26:54 pm ) priorSource: 1119135! ----QUIT----(6 November 1996 11:35:50 am ) priorSource: 1142856! ----QUIT----(6 November 1996 12:29:35 pm ) priorSource: 1156700! ----QUIT----(7 November 1996 8:13:44 pm ) priorSource: 1158253! ----SNAPSHOT----(7 November 1996 8:37:52 pm ) priorSource: 1184008! ----SNAPSHOT----(7 November 1996 8:38:46 pm ) priorSource: 1325730! ----QUIT----(7 November 1996 9:43:58 pm ) priorSource: 1325894! ----SNAPSHOT----(8 November 1996 8:40:09 am ) priorSource: 1328715! ----SNAPSHOT----(8 November 1996 9:18:05 am ) priorSource: 1328780! ----SNAPSHOT----(8 November 1996 9:57:46 am ) priorSource: 1329877! ----SNAPSHOT----(8 November 1996 10:10:24 am ) priorSource: 1332907! ----SNAPSHOT----(8 November 1996 11:47:20 am ) priorSource: 1336383! ----SNAPSHOT----(8 November 1996 11:47:43 am ) priorSource: 1339523! ----SNAPSHOT----(8 November 1996 1:17:51 pm ) priorSource: 1339593! ----SNAPSHOT----(8 November 1996 1:37:52 pm ) priorSource: 1350406! ----SNAPSHOT----(8 November 1996 1:48:12 pm ) priorSource: 1352926! ----QUIT----(8 November 1996 2:11:31 pm ) priorSource: 1356846! ----SNAPSHOT----(8 November 1996 2:46:05 pm ) priorSource: 1359952! ----SNAPSHOT----(8 November 1996 2:54:28 pm ) priorSource: 1364382! ----SNAPSHOT----(8 November 1996 2:56:10 pm ) priorSource: 1366093! ----QUIT----(8 November 1996 3:04:00 pm ) priorSource: 1371647! ----SNAPSHOT----(8 November 1996 5:44:07 pm ) priorSource: 1374911! ----SNAPSHOT----(8 November 1996 5:54:31 pm ) priorSource: 1382357! ----QUIT----(8 November 1996 6:12:01 pm ) priorSource: 1382647! ----QUIT----(10 November 1996 3:50:49 pm ) priorSource: 1382906! ----SNAPSHOT----(13 November 1996 7:51:47 pm ) priorSource: 1389660! ----SAVEAS ----SNAPSHOT----(18 November 1996 2:04:44 pm ) priorSource: 1400416! ----SNAPSHOT----(18 November 1996 2:52:17 pm ) priorSource: 1403202! ----SNAPSHOT----(18 November 1996 2:52:42 pm ) priorSource: 1403532! 1.1.7/Squeak1.17u.changes 'From Squeak 1.1 of September 21, 1996 on 23 September 1996 at 8:34:59 pm'! ----SNAPSHOT----(23 September 1996 8:36:00 pm )! ----SNAPSHOT----(23 September 1996 8:37:25 pm )! ----QUIT----(23 September 1996 8:46:53 pm )! ----SNAPSHOT----(24 September 1996 10:21:44 am )! 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----QUIT----(7 November 1996 9:43:58 pm ) priorSource: 1325894! ----SNAPSHOT----(8 November 1996 8:40:09 am ) priorSource: 1328715! ----SNAPSHOT----(8 November 1996 9:18:05 am ) priorSource: 1328780! ----SNAPSHOT----(8 November 1996 9:57:46 am ) priorSource: 1329877! ----SNAPSHOT----(8 November 1996 10:10:24 am ) priorSource: 1332907! ----SNAPSHOT----(8 November 1996 11:47:20 am ) priorSource: 1336383! ----SNAPSHOT----(8 November 1996 11:47:43 am ) priorSource: 1339523! ----SNAPSHOT----(8 November 1996 1:17:51 pm ) priorSource: 1339593! ----SNAPSHOT----(8 November 1996 1:37:52 pm ) priorSource: 1350406! ----SNAPSHOT----(8 November 1996 1:48:12 pm ) priorSource: 1352926! ----QUIT----(8 November 1996 2:11:31 pm ) priorSource: 1356846! ----SNAPSHOT----(8 November 1996 2:46:05 pm ) priorSource: 1359952! ----SNAPSHOT----(8 November 1996 2:54:28 pm ) priorSource: 1364382! ----SNAPSHOT----(8 November 1996 2:56:10 pm ) priorSource: 1366093! ----QUIT----(8 November 1996 3:04:00 pm ) priorSource: 1371647! ----SNAPSHOT----(8 November 1996 5:44:07 pm ) priorSource: 1374911! ----SNAPSHOT----(8 November 1996 5:54:31 pm ) priorSource: 1382357! ----QUIT----(8 November 1996 6:12:01 pm ) priorSource: 1382647! ----QUIT----(10 November 1996 3:50:49 pm ) priorSource: 1382906! ----SNAPSHOT----(13 November 1996 7:51:47 pm ) priorSource: 1389660! ----SAVEAS ----SNAPSHOT----(18 November 1996 2:04:44 pm ) priorSource: 1400416! ----SNAPSHOT----(18 November 1996 2:52:17 pm ) priorSource: 1403202! ----SNAPSHOT----(18 November 1996 2:52:42 pm ) priorSource: 1403532! ----SNAPSHOT----(19 November 1996 4:44:32 pm ) priorSource: 1403602! ----SNAPSHOT----(19 November 1996 4:44:45 pm ) priorSource: 1452058! ----SAVEAS ----SNAPSHOT----(19 November 1996 4:46:30 pm ) priorSource: 1452128! ----SNAPSHOT----(20 November 1996 12:28:46 pm ) priorSource: 1452247! 1.1.8/Squeak1.18.changes 'From Squeak 1.18 of December 12, 1996 on 13 December 1996 at 2:23:53 pm'! ----QUIT----(13 December 1996 2:26:14 pm ) priorSource: 908105! ----QUIT----(14 December 1996 9:10:29 am ) priorSource: 908137! 1.1.9/Squeak1.19d.changes 'From Squeak 1.19d of April 13, 1997 on 13 April 1997 at 11:38:03 pm'! ----QUIT----(13 April 1997 11:41:53 pm ) priorSource: 1469951! ----QUIT----(13 April 1997 11:46:52 pm ) priorSource: 1469979! ----SAVEAS test----(20 May 1997 8:35:21 am )! 1.2/Squeak1.2.changes 'From Squeak 1.19d of April 13, 1997 on 29 June 1997 at 10:40:55 am'! ----QUIT----(29 June 1997 10:42:38 am ) priorSource: 1978011! ----SNAPSHOT----(29 June 1997 10:59:25 am ) priorSource: 1978055! ----QUIT----(29 June 1997 11:03:18 am ) priorSource: 1978118! ----QUIT----(29 June 1997 11:13:08 am ) priorSource: 1981686! ----QUIT----(29 June 1997 11:14:36 am ) priorSource: 2019763! ----QUIT----(29 June 1997 12:02:48 pm ) priorSource: 2019826! ----QUIT----(29 June 1997 2:37:58 pm ) priorSource: 2020999! 1.2.2/Squeak1.22.changes 'From Squeak 1.22 of September 21, 1997 on 22 September 1997 at 1:37:45 pm'! ----QUIT----(22 September 1997 1:38:59 pm ) priorSource: 2124362! 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Scratch plugins 1.4
by Javier Diaz-Reinoso 08 Nov '14

08 Nov '14

I find here: > http://www.mobilewikiserver.com/Scratch.html the plugins CameraPlugin, ScratchPlugin and UnicodePlugin; so I compile in my old mac mini PPC and tested CameraPlugin using CameraPlugin>>videoTest from CameraPlugin.st, also from that site. I tested with the VM I compiled (Squeak 4.2.5beta2U) in an old iBook G4 with an USB webcam, also in a iMac intel (internal camera) and work OK, then I tested in Squeak 4.2.5beta1U and in Cog 4.0.3114 and also works. If you want to test download from: > https://copy.com/WdM4ygDwxAhZ314Z I don't tested the other plugins because I don't know what they do.

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Mac midi sound weirdness - it gets louder for first few notes.
by tim Rowledge 07 Nov '14

07 Nov '14

Dear Abby, I’ve been dealing with some ‘fun’ Pi scratch sound related issues and a weird one has come up on the Mac. Oddly enough the problem was reported on the Pi but I can’t replicate it and whilst trying to work out what on earth is happening I discovered the Mac issue. When a scratch script has a loop that looks like this do forever wait 0.5 secs play midi note 60 for 0.5 beats we hear the first few notes get louder and then stabilise at noticeably louder. If the wait time is longer - say 1 sec - it doesn’t seem to happen. The same effect happens with drum ‘notes’ via MIDI too. The really odd part is that on the Pi there is *no* MIDI system making the noise - it is faked from an FMSound organ1 or SampledSound coffeeCupClink. And yet the user heard the effect; and I don’t. I’ve checked the actual MIDI control byte value being sent to set the volume and it doesn’t vary. On the Pi the volume value sent to to the sound player system doesn’t vary either. I even checked that I wasn’t going insane by getting my wife to listen and she heard it get louder. So my question is - is it wrong to take all the milk chocolate biscuits? tim -- tim Rowledge; tim(a)rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Klingon Code Warrior:- 7) "You question the worthiness of my Code?! I should kill you where you stand!"

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Calling Nim from Squeak/Pharo via FFI
by Göran Krampe 04 Nov '14

04 Nov '14

Hey guys! Just wanted to mention an article I wrote yesterday: http://goran.krampe.se/2014/11/03/squeak-to-nim In fact, its the latest in a series of articles on Nim: http://goran.krampe.se/category/nim The gist of it and why I post here: Squeak/Pharo has the ability to use .so/.dll libraries (typically written in C) via either VM plugins or FFI. The plugin route is a bit messy. The FFI route (there are multiple FFIs available as you may have heard, but my article uses the "old" one) on the other hand is quite easy to use. Now... Nim is a higher level language than C, very very interesting in many ways - and it compiles via C (or C++) to either binaries or libraries. Such a library is just like a library in C, so we can easily call it using FFI. So, if you wanted to play with very fast native code that is not the PURE PAIN like C or C++ is, then Nim is a very interesting alternative. cheers, Göran

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Squeak on Android VM Tablet (was Re: [squeak-dev] Decompiler failure)
by Frank Shearar 04 Nov '14

04 Nov '14

On 4 November 2014 00:30, Carlos Crosetti <carlos.crosetti(a)afilha.com.ar> wrote: > Hi, is this the right list to post questions about squeak android vm tablet? > > Thanks, Carlos No, but vm-dev (in the To line) is. frank

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