Squeak-dev November 2002

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[FIX] MoreFileFixes-nk
by Ned Konz 01 Dec '02

01 Dec '02

from preamble: "Change Set: MoreFileFixes-nk Date: 30 November 2002 Author: Ned Konz This is a further attempt to get FileDirectory>>exists to work right across platforms. Unfortunately, this doesn't pass the FileDirectoryTests on the 3.2-6 Unix VM or the 3.4.0Beta Mac VM. It does on the Windows VM, and I've also posted changes to the Unix VM to make it work there. However, this code should be the correct solution to the problem. "!

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Re: 70 packages on SqueakMap!
by Daniel Vainsencher 30 Nov '02

30 Nov '02

I'm not sure I understand what you expect Goran to add - load scripts are there. People can write load scripts, right now, that first load SAR, and then load their favorite package. Anyone can do this, even for packages he just uses. I think it's important to let Goran finish his refactoring adding versions without distraction, because that is the basis for letting anyone create configuration. And nobody else can do that. Daniel Doug Way <dway(a)riskmetrics.com> wrote: > > On Friday, November 29, 2002, at 11:55 AM, Julian Fitzell wrote: > > > goran.hultgren(a)bluefish.se wrote: > >> Julian Fitzell <julian(a)beta4.com> wrote: > >>> Or just get dependencies working and then the package can depend on > >>> the SARInstaller, and the SARInstaller will get installed > >>> automatically, first. > >> Working on it! Did a whole lot of work yesterday evening etc. But... > >> This is actually *not* a dependency. SqueakMap works fine without > >> SARInstaller. :-) > > > > I didn't say SqueakMap depended on SARInstaller. I meant that packages > > that are packaged as SARs depend on SARInstaller. So when you try to > > install a SAR package and don't have SARInstaller, it will get > > installed first since it is a dependency. > > Right, that might be a good way to handle it once the dependency stuff > is in place. > > However, I'm guessing it will be a while before the dependency stuff is > working, so in the meantime, I agree that it would be good to simply > install the SARInstaller as part of the SqueakMap install. (Which I > guess would be done with a load script as Goran described.) > > There are a number of packages on SqueakMap now which expect SAR to be > available, such as Roel's, and people are starting to submit [BUG] > reports about this problem (see Ross Boylan's message), so perhaps Goran > will be able to add this soon. :-) > > - Doug Way

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Re: [VI4-3.4] A bug?
by Ken Collins 30 Nov '02

30 Nov '02

Thanks much - problem solved. >From: Anthony Hannan <ajh18(a)cornell.edu> >Reply-To: squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >To: squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >Subject: Re: [VI4-3.4] A bug? >Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 14:34:07 -0500 > >Ken Collins wrote: > > I started with a squeaky clean VI4-3.2. I deleted the mouse and all the > > information windows. I didn't change anything else before updating to >3.4 > > (Squeak 3.4alpha[VI4] latest update: #5125). > >It looks like you forgot to file-in the VI4 updates from the VI4 >webpage. You have to do this before updating to 3.4. I have rearranged >the VI4 webpage to make it more obvious. These updates are a manual form >of an update stream specific to VI4. > >These particular updates remove the obsolete classes and directs new >updates >such as #timeStamp be added to the new classes that replaced them. > >Cheers, >Anthony _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

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Re: [VI4-3.4] A bug?
by Anthony Hannan 30 Nov '02

30 Nov '02

Ken Collins wrote: > I started with a squeaky clean VI4-3.2. I deleted the mouse and all the > information windows. I didn't change anything else before updating to 3.4 > (Squeak 3.4alpha[VI4] latest update: #5125). It looks like you forgot to file-in the VI4 updates from the VI4 webpage. You have to do this before updating to 3.4. I have rearranged the VI4 webpage to make it more obvious. These updates are a manual form of an update stream specific to VI4. These particular updates remove the obsolete classes and directs new updates such as #timeStamp be added to the new classes that replaced them. Cheers, Anthony

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[VI4-3.4] A bug?
by Ken Collins 30 Nov '02

30 Nov '02

I started with a squeaky clean VI4-3.2. I deleted the mouse and all the information windows. I didn't change anything else before updating to 3.4 (Squeak 3.4alpha[VI4] latest update: #5125). Now I open a Browser (normal or package pane), and select(left click) ANY method in the upper right Browser window for ANY class. So far, so good. Then when I RIGHT click the same selected method in the same place, I get a "CompiledMethod2 timeStamp?" error. I have attached the DebugLog. In a previous fresh (Squeak 3.4alpha[VI4] latest update: #5125) image, I looked at Utilities Class>> timeStampForMethod: method "Answer the authoring time-stamp for the given method, retrieved from the sources or changes file. Answer the empty string if no time stamp is available." "Utilities timeStampForMethod: (Utilities class compiledMethodAt: #timeStampForMethod:)" ^ method timeStamp and changed ^ method timeStamp to ^ self (just to see what would happen), accepted it, and afterword I could right click the methods to my hearts content with no more errors. Not that I frequently right click methods in that pane, but I had been working on a SuperDooper class and discovered this "behavior" when attempting to remove a method from it. Any pointers? System: Win2k,128 RAM Thanks, Ken _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

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[FIX] CategorizeClassSideFix-nk
by Ned Konz 30 Nov '02

30 Nov '02

from preamble: "Change Set: CategorizeClassSideFix-nk Date: 30 November 2002 Author: Ned Konz The 'categorize all uncategorized' choice in the Browsers didn't work on the class side. "!

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[ENH] AlphabetizeDVS-nk
by Ned Konz 30 Nov '02

30 Nov '02

from preamble: "Change Set: AlphabetizeDVS-nk Date: 30 November 2002 Author: Ned Konz This makes 'alphabetize categories' in the browsers alphabetize as follows: * public * private (starting with 'private') * DVS extensions (starting with '*') "!

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Re: [Update] Faure 0.3 (Play release)
by Russell Allen 30 Nov '02

30 Nov '02

Hi Stephane, Karl I've added screenshots at http://russell-allen.com/squeak/faure/screenshots/ The scribble pad definately needs to be multipage; it also needs to be saved by default (at the moment you will lose the scribble if you quit the image). How to save these things most effectively I'm not sure; maybe magma or minnestore... Handwriting recognition is a biggie. I haven't tried out genie yet; so I can't comment. I'll have a look at it though. My goal would be a system that wasn't so damn modal as Palm/WinCE - I hate having to either write in a special place or to switch into a 'keyboard mode' to write anything. If genie works the way I suspect it would, then there will be problems with an after-the-fact recognition of letters in a saved bitmap. Most character recognition stuff I know of uses pen stroke info - you'd either have to save the strokes, or use a dedicated OCR program. Cheers, Russell Stephane Ducasse <ducasse(a)iam.unibe.ch> wrote: > > Cool stuff. > > The scribble pad brings some ideas to mind. > > Say you use it as a note taker, you will need > > new pages, and ability to go trough the pages. > > And handwriting OCR to turn the pixels into some > > text. > > Karl > > hi allen > Could you put one or two pictures, so that presentation makers like me > can > used them to advertise your work ;) > > Then for the handwriting have you looked at Genie? This is ***really*** > good > but I do not know on IPAQ. > > Stef > > Dr. StÈphane DUCASSE (ducasse(a)iam.unibe.ch) > http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~ducasse/ > "if you knew today was your last day on earth, what would you do > different? ... especially if, by doing something different, today > might not be your last day on earth" Calvin&Hobbes

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RE: DVS (thanks!) & SqueakMap thoughts
by danielv＠netvision.net.il 30 Nov '02

30 Nov '02

Actually the idea of configurations (sets of package to load) is definitely part of Goran roadmap (He's written about it on the list before). I think it'll probably turn out both pretty simple, and very, very useful. One small problem with using scripts is composition - how do you handle a script that loads two scripts, that have a shared requirement? with scripts, you load it twice. Configurations should handle that better. Daniel Stephen Pair <spair(a)acm.org> wrote: > Good...it sounds like the simplest thing that could possibly work. It's > important I think to keep these things nicely separated from packages (as > they have the potential to grow permutationally with the number of > packages). > > - Stephen > > -----Original Message----- > From: squeak-dev-admin(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > [mailto:squeak-dev-admin@lists.squeakfoundation.org]On Behalf Of Ned > Konz > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 10:03 PM > To: squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > Subject: Re: DVS (thanks!) & SqueakMap thoughts > > > On Tuesday 19 November 2002 07:05 pm, Stephen Pair wrote: > > > Sure, but what I would like is to be able to put the various > > packages on SqueakMap separately and then have "bundles" that are > > essentially just scripts that load a set of packages in a specific > > order. > > That should be easy to do with plain ST fileins. The SqueakMap API > lets you download and install packages easily. We've discussed doing > this before to make 'image configurations' of various kinds that load > a number of different packages in order. > > > It would also be nice if SqueakMap would let me > > categorize these things separately from reqular packages. > > It should be possible to add a "package format" category for these. > > -- > Ned Konz > http://bike-nomad.com > GPG key ID: BEEA7EFE

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B3DAcceleratorPlugin on Linux compile problems
by Ned Konz 30 Nov '02

30 Nov '02

Using the Squeak-3.2-5 stuff from Ian's site (and 3.4a), I tried to do a build with all internal modules, and got this: B3DAcceleratorPlugin/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.a(B3DAcceleratorPlugin.o): In function `primitiveCreateRendererFlags': /home/ned/Squeak/Squeak-3.2-5/src/vm/intplugins/B3DAcceleratorPlugin/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.c:284: undefined reference to `b3dxCreateRendererFlags' /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.a(glxext.o): In function `__glXGetCurrentContext': glxext.o(.text+0x1a): undefined reference to `pthread_key_create' glxext.o(.text+0x31): undefined reference to `pthread_getspecific' /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.a(glxext.o): In function `__glXSetCurrentContext': glxext.o(.text+0x6a): undefined reference to `pthread_key_create' glxext.o(.text+0x87): undefined reference to `pthread_setspecific' /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.a(glthread.o): In function `_glthread_InitTSD': glthread.o(.text+0x1e): undefined reference to `pthread_key_create' /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.a(glthread.o): In function `_glthread_GetTSD': glthread.o(.text+0x76): undefined reference to `pthread_getspecific' /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.a(glthread.o): In function `_glthread_SetTSD': glthread.o(.text+0xbf): undefined reference to `pthread_setspecific' Suggestions welcome. -- Ned Konz http://bike-nomad.com GPG key ID: BEEA7EFE

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