Squeak-dev October 2002

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Re: [GOODIE] DVSToSAR-nk
by Avi Bryant 30 Oct '02

30 Oct '02

Ned, Cool. Presumably, however, packages distributed this way would bypass the DVS fileIn mechanism... or is it smart enough to use the FilePackageLoader if available? On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Ned Konz wrote: > from preamble: > > "Change Set: DVSToSAR-nk > Date: 30 October 2002 > Author: Ned Konz > > This lets you make a .sar file (complete with other files, change sets, > preamble, and postscript) from a DVS package. > > I've added the following methods to PackageInfo, which may be optionally > overridden by subclasses: > > prerequisiteChangeSets -- These are change sets that get loaded before > the main change set > > additionalChangeSets -- These are change sets that get loaded after the > main change set > > additionalFiles -- These are additional files that get extracted from > the zip > > changesText -- Text of a changes log that will be shown to the user > > readmeText -- Text of a README file that will be shown to the user > > You can make a SAR file from a PackageInfo object like this: > > SARPackageDumper fileOutPackage: (ConnectorsInfo someInstance) as: > 'Connectors.sar' > "! >

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[ANN] Connectors 1.2 available from SqueakMap
by Ned Konz 30 Oct '02

30 Oct '02

I've posted a "1.2" version of Connectors to SqueakMap in a .SAR format. This is the first .SAR version. This adds a number of enhancements and bug fixes to version 1.02, including support for schematics, a special Project/World for drawings, and other cool things. This version won't load directly into Squeak 3.3a (until SqueakMap is ported to it), but if you unpack it and file in the preamble, change sets, and postscript separately it should work (so far untried). I don't know how well it will load over older versions; if you want the CS itself (with its method removals, etc.), please contact me. Connectors is an application for making structured/connected drawings in Morphic. It adds a new kind of Morph (NCConnectorMorph) that can connect other Morphs together (and stay connected). There are also a number of other shapes, flaps, and tools for making your own drawings. It comes with some sample shapes in flaps for making UML class diagram and state diagrams. It's also a framework for making your own structured drawing editors. There is an easy to use API for querying drawing structure, constructing drawings, and more. -- Ned Konz http://bike-nomad.com GPG key ID: BEEA7EFE

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[GOODIE] DVSToSAR-nk
by squeak-dev＠lists.squeakfoundation.org 30 Oct '02

30 Oct '02

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[GOODIE] DVSToSAR-nk
by Ned Konz 30 Oct '02

30 Oct '02

from preamble: "Change Set: DVSToSAR-nk Date: 30 October 2002 Author: Ned Konz This lets you make a .sar file (complete with other files, change sets, preamble, and postscript) from a DVS package. I've added the following methods to PackageInfo, which may be optionally overridden by subclasses: prerequisiteChangeSets -- These are change sets that get loaded before the main change set additionalChangeSets -- These are change sets that get loaded after the main change set additionalFiles -- These are additional files that get extracted from the zip changesText -- Text of a changes log that will be shown to the user readmeText -- Text of a README file that will be shown to the user You can make a SAR file from a PackageInfo object like this: SARPackageDumper fileOutPackage: (ConnectorsInfo someInstance) as: 'Connectors.sar' "!

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nighty..
by Niko Schwarz 30 Oct '02

30 Oct '02

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Re: Tests for ST collection hierarchy
by Alain Fischer 30 Oct '02

30 Oct '02

Hi Nathanael, I have put them on: http://homepage.mac.com/alain_fischer/ The file is ANSI-Tests-for-3.2.tar.gz After unpacking it, you must file in ACSInstl.st in a fresh 3.2 image #4956 and then after running all the tests with TestRunner you must have: --> 998 run, 938 passed, 10 failed, 50 errors I have tried the tests suite with Squeak 2.7 and had the following result: --> 2665 run, 1 failed, 0 error(s) Have a nice day. Alain Le Lundi 28 octobre 2002, à 08:06 , Nathanael Schärli a écrit : > Hey Alain > > Thanks for your help. > >> I have never had the time to finish this port to 3.2 but if >> you want, I >> could send >> you what I have. > > That would be great. Don't worry if it is incomplete or messy. I'll just > see what parts I can use... > > Thanks, > Nathanael > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: squeak-dev-admin(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >> [mailto:squeak-dev-admin@lists.squeakfoundation.org] On >> Behalf Of Alain Fischer >> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:28 PM >> To: squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >> Subject: Re: Tests for ST collection hierarchy >> >> >> Hi Nethanael, >> >> I have found on my hard disk the ANSI tests suite which was >> on the web >> site of >> Richard A. Harmon (not yet available). >> >> The ANSI tests suite and SUnit26SQ27 are on my home page: >> http://homepage.mac.com/alain_fischer/ >> >> I have tried the tests suite with Squeak 2.7 and had the following >> result: >> --> 2665 run, 1 failed, 0 error(s) >> >> For those who want to try on Squeak 2.7 here are my notes: >> - you must have the 4 SUnit changeset version 2.6 for Squeak >> 2.7 with the >> following name SUnit26SQ27-*.st >> - in the file ACSInstl.st, you must set the variables devDir >> acsDir and >> sUnitDir >> with the values corresponding to your installation directory >> structure. >> >> On Squeak 3.0 and Squeak 3.2 I was not able to load the >> original change >> sets. >> Squeak freeze when loading ACSMsgA.cs. It appear that the >> freeze is when the system compile Symbol>>intern: >> >> I have done some work to be able to load these change sets on >> Squeak 3.2 but not all the test work. It seem to me that this >> is due to some change between Sunit26 and Sunit30. >> >> I have never had the time to finish this port to 3.2 but if >> you want, I >> could send >> you what I have. >> >> Have a nice day. >> Alain >> >> >> Le Mercredi 23 octobre 2002, à 07:55 , Nathanael Schärli a écrit : >> >>> Hi >>> >>> Andrew Black and me are refactoring the ST collection hierarchy in >>> Squeak using the Traits model. In order to validate the refactored >>> classes, we need to have some test cases. We tried to find >> such tests >>> on the web, but without success. Does anyone know whether there are >>> tests for the ST collection classes available in Squeak or other ST >>> dialects. Maybe as a part of the ANSI standardizaion >> effort? If yes, >>> please let me know. It could save me a lot of work... >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Nathanael >>> >>> >> >> >

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Re: [VI4]
by PhiHo Hoang 30 Oct '02

30 Oct '02

Hi Anthony, > I fixed my VM bug which was showing up in continuations. You can get > the new VM from the VI4 website: http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/VI4. > You will need the new image as well. Thank you and MobVM now also supports VI4. > To answer Stephane Ducasse question about macroBenchmark speed. The > only one that is still comparable - ie. doesn't involve code that has > changed - is #6, open and close browsers. It reports about a 30% > increase in speed on both a Pentium 2 and Pentium 4. I know that macroBenchmarks is not very reliable, but just for fun, I perform a set of bench mark on an AMD 1.1 GHz, 768MB WindowsXP for the following VMs: 1/- VI4 MegaVM as downlaoded from VI4 page. 2/- VI4 MobVM MegaInterp (with combo of InterpreterPlugin, ObjectMemoryPlugin and PrimitivesPlugin) 3/- VI4 MobVM MiniInterp (with separate ObjectMemoryPlugin and PrimitivesPlugin) 4/- VI3 MobVM MegaInterp (to comapre against VI4) 5/- VI3 MobVM MiniInterp (to comapre against VI4) It looks like the partition of InterpreterPlugin, ObjectMemoryPlugin and PrimitivesPlugin for VI4 MobVM is _far_ _far_ from optimum more work need be done for this. That for VI3 is not too bad. Still, can be improved. MobVM MegaInterp for both VI3 and VI4 is comparable to MegaVM. (Hey, for tinyBenchmarks, MobVM beats MegaVM ;-) Please find appended the summaries of macroBenchmarks and tinyBenchMarks. NB. Test #4 (mini.image) is skipped for VI4 because of imcompatible image format. Cheers, PhiHo. VI4 MegaVM (downloaded from VI4 page) Smalltalk macroBenchmarks #(20,465 17,781 31,653 0 7,460 5,170) Total time = 82,529 milliseconds. #(20,500 17,892 31,566 0 7,402 4,989) Total time = 82,349 milliseconds. #(21,004 17,947 31,651 0 7,440 5,075) Total time = 83,117 milliseconds. 0 tinyBenchmarks '128,320,802 bytecodes/sec; 5,217,731 sends/sec' '128,000,000 bytecodes/sec; 5,130,389 sends/sec' '128,128,128 bytecodes/sec; 5,248,812 sends/sec' VI4 MobVM MegaInterp Smalltalk macroBenchmarks #(20,928 17,877 32,422 0 7,518 5,224) Total time = 83,969 milliseconds. #(20,802 17,971 31,860 0 7,550 5,160) Total time = 83,343 milliseconds. #(21,472 17,938 31,800 0 7,600 5,211) Total time = 84,021 milliseconds. 0 tinyBenchmarks '130,879,345 bytecodes/sec; 5,418,259 sends/sec' '130,745,658 bytecodes/sec; 5,405,793 sends/sec' '130,612,244 bytecodes/sec; 5,418,259 sends/sec' VI4 MobVM MiniInterp Smalltalk macroBenchmarks #(22,564 19,489 34,667 0 8,095 5,491) Total time = 90,306 milliseconds. #(22,621 19,492 34,508 0 8,154 5,804) Total time = 90,579 milliseconds. #(23,074 19,642 34,533 0 8,119 5,498) Total time = 90,866 milliseconds. 0 tinyBenchmarks '127,744,510 bytecodes/sec; 5,100,691 sends/sec' '128,837,443 bytecodes/sec; 4,908,882 sends/sec' '127,617,148 bytecodes/sec; 5,104,384 sends/sec' VI3 MobVM MegaInterp Smalltalk macroBenchmarks #(10,489 82,754 32,497 11,639 2,047 10,501 4,979) Total time = 154,906 milliseconds. #(10,482 83,150 35,500 11,645 2,045 10,533 4,943) Total time = 158,298 milliseconds. #(11,534 88,292 38,972 11,665 2,063 10,599 5,003) Total time = 168,128 milliseconds. 0 tinyBenchmarks '106,048,053 bytecodes/sec; 3,273,190 sends/sec' '104,746,317 bytecodes/sec; 3,273,190 sends/sec' '105,349,794 bytecodes/sec; 3,280,585 sends/sec' VI3 MobVM MiniInterp Smalltalk macroBenchmarks #(11,347 89,065 35,081 12,679 0 11,185 5,244) Total time = 164,601 milliseconds. #(11,346 89,883 37,596 12,684 0 11,129 5,250) Total time = 167,888 milliseconds. #(11,582 89,935 38,179 12,715 0 11,217 5,264) Total time = 168,892 milliseconds. 0 tinyBenchmarks '101,667,990 bytecodes/sec; 2,981,941 sends/sec' '101,829,753 bytecodes/sec; 2,961,670 sends/sec' '101,829,753 bytecodes/sec; 2,86,0549 sends/sec' ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Hannan" <ajh18(a)cornell.edu> To: <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 12:59 AM Subject: [VI4] > Hello all, > > I fixed my VM bug which was showing up in continuations. You can get > the new VM from the VI4 website: http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/VI4. > You will need the new image as well. > > To answer Stephane Ducasse question about macroBenchmark speed. The > only one that is still comparable - ie. doesn't involve code that has > changed - is #6, open and close browsers. It reports about a 30% > increase in speed on both a Pentium 2 and Pentium 4. > > Cheers, > Anthony >

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[ANN] SqueakMap RC2 and SM Loader 0.96 out
by danielv＠netvision.net.il 30 Oct '02

30 Oct '02

The SqueakMap RC2 should show up your Loaders, just install it again, and it will pull in the updated SMLoader too. I know Goran has included Ned's improvements and added some package state testing methods. Ned's changes are what makes the description pane so much nicer now. Contents of SML 0.96 over 0.95 - - Help now includes a link to SMLoader on the Swiki (the content there is still embryonic, yell if yout think somethings missing. It's at http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/2726) - Fixed an update bug Ned found out (out of date contents when a package is installed and stops matching the filters). - Updated to SM RC2 Let Goran and myself know if anything's broken. Daniel =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=F6ran_Hultgren?= <goran.hultgren(a)bluefish.se> wrote: > Go Daniel! > > Go! :-) > > Now I will be offline for the rest of the weekend. > Will check that all went smooth in the next hour though. > > regards, Gran > > > Gran Hultgren, goran.hultgren(a)bluefish.se > GSM: +46 70 3933950, http://www.bluefish.se > \"Department of Redundancy department.\" -- ThinkGeek

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[ANN] Seaside 2.02
by Avi Bryant 30 Oct '02

30 Oct '02

Seaside 2.02 has been posted to SqueakMap. There's been some minor reorganization and bug fixing, but the major difference is a new, fairly large example: the beginnings of a SqueakMap browser. Once you have 2.02 loaded, point your browser to http://localhost:9090/sm to try it out. And start adding features ;). (I don't necessarily recommend updating through SqueakMap, though - better would be to file it in clean to a new image. Need to get that SMDVSInstaller going...) Cheers, Avi

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Re: Squeak MOO
by Eric Scharff 29 Oct '02

29 Oct '02

On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Alan Grimes wrote: > The game that almost got me started on a similar project was the NES > game "Dragon Warrior IV". You can play it in emulation on the PC. I have fond memories of Dragon Warrior IV. There are a suite of tools that help make RPGs in this style. There was even a PlayStation "game" called "RPG Maker" which helped you create such things. Years ago, I created adventure games on a Commodore 64 using a tool called "Adventure Construction Set." It was a lot of fun. I'd love to do the same kind of thing in Squeak, but then again there are a lot of things I'd love to do in Squeak... :) -Eric

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