Hi Stef!
2011/8/26 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.ducasse@inria.fr
In Squeak alexander lazaverich did a SystemReporter. I wanted to have a look but got distracted. It would be good to use it.
Sure thing that I was just about to mention that it is on SqueakSource, when there is no SqueakSource. :-/
Boy, this is annoying.
To me it seems that the SqueakSource repo on source.squeak.org received some more love in the past so that it seems to be more stable and responsive. Just for practical reasons (a source repo that's not available over long periods of time just suxx) I'm considering moving my few bits to source.squeak.org until there is a reliable alternative.
Wouldn't it make also good sense to move some vital stuff like the vmmaker repo to this destination? I know this will be controversial, but the current situation is bad at best.
I think the broken SqueakSource is hurting us more than we know!
Alex
On 26.08.2011, at 18:14, Alexander Lazarević wrote:
Hi Stef!
2011/8/26 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.ducasse@inria.fr In Squeak alexander lazaverich did a SystemReporter. I wanted to have a look but got distracted. It would be good to use it.
Sure thing that I was just about to mention that it is on SqueakSource, when there is no SqueakSource. :-/
Boy, this is annoying.
The Chile mirror is up.
To me it seems that the SqueakSource repo on source.squeak.org received some more love in the past so that it seems to be more stable and responsive.
While it seems more stable indeed, it also gets much less traffic. I'n not sure it would handle the load of squeaksource.com as well.
Just for practical reasons (a source repo that's not available over long periods of time just suxx) I'm considering moving my few bits to source.squeak.org until there is a reliable alternative.
So far we have not opened up source.squeak.org for personal projects.
Wouldn't it make also good sense to move some vital stuff like the vmmaker repo to this destination? I know this will be controversial, but the current situation is bad at best.
That would be a good idea IMHO - you might ask what the other VM developers think of the idea on the vm-dev list.
I think the broken SqueakSource is hurting us more than we know!
We discussed this at ESUG and so far the most promising plan is to migrate squeaksource.com to a SqueakSource3 instance running on Gemstone. Tobias should be able to tell us more.
- Bert -
A new GemStone-hosted SS sounds good, but my own curiousity is burning. I probably missed the discussion about whether we ever attempted to debug and fix this situation by means other than complete replacement.
I'm very curious to know, what is the nature of the scalability/crashing problem with SS that this community has been (uncharacteristically) unable to solve?
On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de wrote:
On 26.08.2011, at 18:14, Alexander Lazarević wrote:
Hi Stef!
2011/8/26 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.ducasse@inria.fr
In Squeak alexander lazaverich did a SystemReporter. I wanted to have a look but got distracted.
It would be good to use it.
Sure thing that I was just about to mention that it is on SqueakSource, when there is no SqueakSource. :-/
Boy, this is annoying.
The Chile mirror is up.
To me it seems that the SqueakSource repo on source.squeak.org received some more love in the past so that it seems to be more stable and responsive.
While it seems more stable indeed, it also gets much less traffic. I'n not sure it would handle the load of squeaksource.com as well.
Just for practical reasons (a source repo that's not available over long periods of time just suxx) I'm considering moving my few bits to source.squeak.org until there is a reliable alternative.
So far we have not opened up source.squeak.org for personal projects.
Wouldn't it make also good sense to move some vital stuff like the vmmaker repo to this destination? I know this will be controversial, but the current situation is bad at best.
That would be a good idea IMHO - you might ask what the other VM developers think of the idea on the vm-dev list.
I think the broken SqueakSource is hurting us more than we know!
We discussed this at ESUG and so far the most promising plan is to migrate squeaksource.com to a SqueakSource3 instance running on Gemstone. Tobias should be able to tell us more.
- Bert -
On 27 August 2011 14:59, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de wrote:
On 26.08.2011, at 18:14, Alexander Lazarević wrote:
Hi Stef!
2011/8/26 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.ducasse@inria.fr
In Squeak alexander lazaverich did a SystemReporter. I wanted to have a look but got distracted.
It would be good to use it.
Sure thing that I was just about to mention that it is on SqueakSource, when there is no SqueakSource. :-/
Boy, this is annoying.
The Chile mirror is up.
To me it seems that the SqueakSource repo on source.squeak.org received some more love in the past so that it seems to be more stable and responsive.
While it seems more stable indeed, it also gets much less traffic. I'n not sure it would handle the load of squeaksource.com as well.
Just for practical reasons (a source repo that's not available over long periods of time just suxx) I'm considering moving my few bits to source.squeak.org until there is a reliable alternative.
So far we have not opened up source.squeak.org for personal projects.
Wouldn't it make also good sense to move some vital stuff like the vmmaker repo to this destination? I know this will be controversial, but the current situation is bad at best.
That would be a good idea IMHO - you might ask what the other VM developers think of the idea on the vm-dev list.
I think this is good idea, especially if uploading VMMaker package won't take ages as currently is. There are some screwed logic on squeaksource.
I think the broken SqueakSource is hurting us more than we know!
We discussed this at ESUG and so far the most promising plan is to migrate squeaksource.com to a SqueakSource3 instance running on Gemstone. Tobias should be able to tell us more.
- Bert -
2011/8/27 Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de
The Chile mirror is up.
Just learned about that one. Thanks!
While it seems more stable indeed, it also gets much less traffic. I'n not
sure it would handle the load of squeaksource.com as well.
Ok, but spreading the workload on to more than one SqueakSource server by moving selected projects from squeaksource.com as an interims solution could ease the pain, no?
So far we have not opened up source.squeak.org for personal projects.
Hah. Typical Plan B characteristics! ;)
That would be a good idea IMHO - you might ask what the other VM developers think of the idea on the vm-dev list.
I will forward it to the vm-dev list.
I think the broken SqueakSource is hurting us more than we know!
We discussed this at ESUG and so far the most promising plan is to migrate squeaksource.com to a SqueakSource3 instance running on Gemstone. Tobias should be able to tell us more.
Is there a project page besides the actual beta repo installation?
Alex
Am 2011-08-29 um 08:18 schrieb Alexander Lazarević:
2011/8/27 Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de The Chile mirror is up.
Just learned about that one. Thanks!
While it seems more stable indeed, it also gets much less traffic. I'n not sure it would handle the load of squeaksource.com as well.
Ok, but spreading the workload on to more than one SqueakSource server by moving selected projects from squeaksource.com as an interims solution could ease the pain, no?
So far we have not opened up source.squeak.org for personal projects.
Hah. Typical Plan B characteristics! ;)
That would be a good idea IMHO - you might ask what the other VM developers think of the idea on the vm-dev list.
I will forward it to the vm-dev list.
I think the broken SqueakSource is hurting us more than we know!
We discussed this at ESUG and so far the most promising plan is to migrate squeaksource.com to a SqueakSource3 instance running on Gemstone. Tobias should be able to tell us more.
Is there a project page besides the actual beta repo installation?
What do you mean by project page? We have an issuetracker at squeaksource3.googlecode.com and the regular sources at http://www.squeaksource.com/squeaksource3.html and http://seaside.gemstone.com/ss/squeaksource3.html
Best -Tobias
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