Hi,
People want a smaller image (less packages in base) as we have now ? And this smaller image could load any Squeak code from past and future ?
Yes, this is a good vision. But the base 3.9 Squeak has 4077 classes, of which 40, 40!, are for SqueakMap. This is less than 1%.
So, what do we pay for that 1% savings in number of classes in the image? SqueakMap.
This is not a bargain! There are many old packages which are not present on Universes which have a chance of resurrection if they are visible.
If the answer is not, people should download ready to use images , like the excellent of Damien for 3.10.
Oh, does Damiens 3.10 have SqueakMap ready to go? If so, he should be able to help you get into the standard 3.10.
Or 3.8.2 full if this suits his needs.
But that's not 3.10,which is what we're talking about. There are those of us who want the *possibility* of benefitting from all of your hard work.
If the answer is yes, people should encourage guys trying to reach this. Meaning some sacrifices are needed.
I do encourage you, but the whole point of a tiny image is to be able to build it to what I need. SqueakMap, for the cost of a mere 40 classes, gives me the ability to take my image in 100 million additional directions than I could/would with ONLY Universes.
So it's more than worth it. Purge other stuff, leave SqueakMap for now.
Today you could use SqueakMap , Universes , Installer and Monticello as ways to load code into 3.10.
The code-loading tools should all be included *standard* in the 3.10 image. Purge other stuff if you need smaller.
I hope in futures Squeak you don't have any (image could don't have this 4 packages) .
Absolutely. To me this is the Spoon dream.
In the distant future, Squeak become Spoon, all you need is type "I want mp3" for cite some people request recently and not more into 3.10.
We're together man. Just disagreeing about *this point in time* of evolution for Squeak. I think it's too early to purge SqueakMap from the standard image.
- Chris