"The moving finger writes and having writ moves on nor all your piety or wit can bring it back or cancel out a single line" O.K. (from memory) Amen Sarkela I have already done that. Thanks Justin
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarkela" sarkela@home.com To: squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 3:07 AM Subject: Re: [OT] Interview about C#
<This will be my only response on this thread, may it rest in peace.>
There is a danger when one binds emotional polarities to a structure of labels. After all, the map is *not* the territory.
I don't approve of Mr Gates and his very effective business tactics any more than I approve of the late Mr Edison and his very effective business tactics. (cf life of Nicola Tesla)
You may say and do what you will, and your words and works will stand as testimony to the consequence of your action and intention.
Your vitriolic diatribe will cause many to stop listening to you. I don't think you are abusive, merely reactive to the label structure you have confused with reality.
OTOH, I do find the notion of "genuine smalltalkers" offensive. Smalltalk is a language for any entity that can draw a distinction between self and others.
Any other distinction misses the point of a language designed to model the way in which we enrich our cognitive structure as we correlate with the world at large.
Cheers, John Sarkela :-}>
PS sorry to be so off topic. I am many thousands of emails behind in the squeak lists and did not intend to trigger these reactions.
From: "Justin Walsh" jwalsh@bigpond.net.au Reply-To: squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 13:22:12 +1100 To: squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: Re: [OT] Interview about C#
Or could this, Jim, be the "intruders" from the C# .net-ist camp,
financed
by you know who, fossicking for recruits? It seems that if you had anything intelligent to say you would have said
it
by now instead of the tirade of personal abuse against me and less than subtle advertising for .net-ism. Stop right there and tell me what I have said that is abusive. And as
before
I will apologise. I don't think the genuine Smalltalkers are fooled by you at all. At least one among you knows the difference between freedon of speech
and
libel. Thank you Justin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Benson" jb@speed.net To: squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [OT] Interview about C#
Daniel,
Bert, it didn't sound to me like Justin was attacking John, just ranting. Which, as you say, is very close to the "noise" side of the scale, but not really malevolent.
If you believe this, than Justin has you fooled. AFAICT, Justin is
pretty
much the same as the spam bot we had on the list a few months ago.
Dribbles
on endlessly, using the list as a medium to hear itself speak. Not
quite
sure what he's on about, but seems pretty upset about it none the less.
In some sense, that's the beauty of the Squeak mailing list. Jump on
the
list, you get your say, and some very smart people usually respond with
well
thought answers. However, at some point you need to be able to add
something
meaningful back to the community, or else you're ignored.
Justin strikes me as a good example as to what email filters are for
;-)
My opinion of course,
Jim