Squeak-dev January 2013

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Re: [Vm-dev] Accelerating LargeIntegersPlugin phase 2
by tim Rowledge 02 Apr '13

02 Apr '13

On 20-01-2013, at 9:39 AM, "David T. Lewis" <lewis(a)mail.msen.com> wrote: > On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 04:52:42PM +0000, Frank Shearar wrote: >> >> At the risk of sounding rather ignorant, what kind of machine would >> that be? IIRC the 68k machines were big endian but they've been wiped >> out now haven't they? >> It has taken many years of blood, effort, toil, tears, sweat, pointed emails and sharply aimed comments, but finally, finally, my friends, at last we are *free* from the evil of Big Endian! At last we can release our families from the underground bunkers of safety and let them wander the outer world as nature intended. > > Most certainly not, Edgar still has one. Ah, him. Well, I've heard about him and his nasty habits. We're onto you Edgar! > > Wikipedia gives a good summary: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endianness > > Older Macs are big endian, and the Squeak VM was originally written on > big endian machines. ARM processors can run in either mode. Most likely > they run as little endian for Linux, and I'm not sure which mode is used > for RISC OS. I've never yet come across an ARM being used in bigendian mode, but I have to assume some large customer wanted it in order to persuade ARM Ltd to pervert the natural course of things. So somewhere out there are a few million processors yearning to be released from bondage. I take comfort from the thought of the overwhelming majority of the approximately 18 *billion* ARM processors being Properly Ended. To be honest I really think it's time we considered changing Squeak to use little-endian form for bitmaps, at least. There aren't any major systems out there that use big endian any more. If any legacy devices still need it, they can be adapted to use the same tricks that current little-endian machines have to use *every time* something is displayed on screen. All I can say is thank goodness that the ATT 'Hobbit' processor never took off, with that insane middle-endian nonsense. tim -- tim Rowledge; tim(a)rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim The halfway point between right and wrong is still damn wrong. Compromise isn't always a solution

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squeak.org - an update
by Chris Cunnington 14 Mar '13

14 Mar '13

I've redesigned squeak.org and I think all the problems are solved. The problems were a doubling menu bar; an extraneous navbar; Altitude components that didn't jibe with the Bootstrap layout; and, 24-char tokens instead of regular looking URIs (i.e. /community or /blogs). The way the Altitude's examples are laid out uses composition and a class that acts as a frame with a navbar. The frame allows other classes/components to be swapped out of an ivar called #current with the navbar. I did away with that and replaced composition with inheritance. Now there is an abstract superclass (i.e. SQAbstractSuperclass) and every page with content is a subclass with a #renderConentOn: method. The navbar supplied by Bootstrap is created by the abstract superclass. All links are hyperlinks (i.e. all "html a href:" and no "html a navigate:", "html a callback:", or "html a linkTo:"). So the superclass creates the menu. All the content classes have #renderContentOn:. The only remaining thing is to list all the tokens you'll use for URIs in SQSqueakApplication>>#initializeLocator. initializeLocator locator at: ALPath root put: SQHomePage new asResource. locator at: ALPath / 'license' put: SQLicensePage new asResource. locator at: ALPath / 'blogs' put: SQBlogsPage new asResource. locator at: ALPath / 'docs' put: SQDocumentationPage new asResource. locator at: ALPath / 'community' put: SQMailingListsPage new asResource. locator at: ALPath / 'devlinks' put: SQDeveloperLinksPage new asResource. locator at: ALPath / 'projects' put: SQProjectLinksPage new asResource. The result is a website using standard looking URIs that is dead easy to make. It won't win any prizes, but it fits the spec and is simple as a pin. Altitude is nothing of not versatile. There are color, positioning, etc. details so it'll be a few days before I deploy the new version. Chris

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problem with Omnibrowser and Refactoring engine
by Raymond Asselin 02 Mar '13

02 Mar '13

I just loaded OmniBrowser with Refactoring engine from the menu Help-> Extending the system Everything seems o.k. for the loading and installing But when I tried to change the name of the Class (in the Class template of Omnibrowser) I had an error style "Undefined object >> mustBeBooleanIn: This error does not appear if we don't load Omnibrowser and Refactoring engine. On OSX 10.7.5, keyboard: français-canada Cog vm of 2013-01-13 ==== SqueakDebug.log ==== NonBooleanReceiver: proceed for truth. 25 January 2013 1:47:25.557 pm VM: Mac OS - Smalltalk Image: Squeak4.4 [latest update: #12327] SecurityManager state: Restricted: false FileAccess: true SocketAccess: true Working Dir /Users/ray1/Documents/PROGRAMMATION/Squeak4.4-12327 Trusted Dir /foobar/tooBar/forSqueak/bogus/ Untrusted Dir /Users/ray1/Library/Preferences/Croquet/Internet/Untrusted UndefinedObject(Object)>>mustBeBooleanIn: Receiver: nil Arguments and temporary variables: context: OBDefinitionPanel>>createCompletionController proceedValue: nil Receiver's instance variables: nil UndefinedObject(Object)>>mustBeBoolean Receiver: nil Arguments and temporary variables: Receiver's instance variables: nil OBDefinitionPanel>>createCompletionController Receiver: an OBDefinitionPanel Arguments and temporary variables: Receiver's instance variables: browser: an OBSystemBrowser definition: an OBClassDefinition selection: (1 to: 0) OBDefinitionPanel(OBTextPanel)>>initializeCompletionController Receiver: an OBDefinitionPanel Arguments and temporary variables: controller: nil Receiver's instance variables: browser: an OBSystemBrowser definition: an OBClassDefinition selection: (1 to: 0) OBDefinitionPanel>>completionController Receiver: an OBDefinitionPanel Arguments and temporary variables: controller: nil Receiver's instance variables: browser: an OBSystemBrowser definition: an OBClassDefinition selection: (1 to: 0) ECToolSet class>>codeCompletionAround:textMorph:keyStroke: Receiver: ECToolSet Arguments and temporary variables: aBlock: [closure] in OBTextMorphWithShout(TextMorph)>>keyStroke: aTextMorph: an OBTextMorphWithShout(1373) evt: [keystroke 'C'] completionAllowed: true editor: an OBTextMorphEditorWithShout stringHolder: an OBDefinitionPanel Receiver's instance variables: superclass: StandardToolSet methodDict: a MethodDictionary() format: 2 instanceVariables: nil organization: ('as yet unclassified') subclasses: nil name: #ECToolSet classPool: nil sharedPools: nil environment: Smalltalk globals "a SystemDictionary with lots of globals" category: #'Ocompletion-ECSqueak' ToolSet class>>codeCompletionAround:textMorph:keyStroke: Receiver: ToolSet Arguments and temporary variables: aBlock: [closure] in OBTextMorphWithShout(TextMorph)>>keyStroke: aTextMorph: an OBTextMorphWithShout(1373) evt: [keystroke 'C'] Receiver's instance variables: superclass: AppRegistry methodDict: a MethodDictionary() format: 2 instanceVariables: nil organization: ('as yet unclassified') subclasses: nil name: #ToolSet classPool: nil sharedPools: nil environment: Smalltalk globals "a SystemDictionary with lots of globals" category: #'System-Applications' registeredClasses: an OrderedCollection(StandardToolSet ECToolSet) default: ECToolSet OBTextMorphWithShout(TextMorph)>>keyStroke: Receiver: an OBTextMorphWithShout(1373) Arguments and temporary variables: evt: [keystroke 'C'] Receiver's instance variables: bounds: 0@0 corner: 569@82 owner: a TransformMorph(2856) submorphs: #() fullBounds: 0@0 corner: 569@82 color: Color black extension: a MorphExtension (1654) [other: (blinkStart -> 898669)] borderWidth: 0 borderColor: Color black textStyle: a TextStyle Bitmap DejaVu Sans 9 text: a Text for 'Object subclass: #NameOfSubclass instanceVariableNames: ''''...etc... wrapFlag: true paragraph: a MultiNewParagraph editor: an OBTextMorphEditorWithShout container: nil predecessor: nil successor: nil backgroundColor: nil margins: nil editHistory: nil editView: an OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(2236) acceptOnCR: false OBTextMorphWithShout(TextMorphForEditView)>>keyStroke: Receiver: an OBTextMorphWithShout(1373) Arguments and temporary variables: evt: [keystroke 'C'] view: an OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(2236) Receiver's instance variables: bounds: 0@0 corner: 569@82 owner: a TransformMorph(2856) submorphs: #() fullBounds: 0@0 corner: 569@82 color: Color black extension: a MorphExtension (1654) [other: (blinkStart -> 898669)] borderWidth: 0 borderColor: Color black textStyle: a TextStyle Bitmap DejaVu Sans 9 text: a Text for 'Object subclass: #NameOfSubclass instanceVariableNames: ''''...etc... wrapFlag: true paragraph: a MultiNewParagraph editor: an OBTextMorphEditorWithShout container: nil predecessor: nil successor: nil backgroundColor: nil margins: nil editHistory: nil editView: an OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(2236) acceptOnCR: false OBTextMorphWithShout(TextMorph)>>handleKeystroke: Receiver: an OBTextMorphWithShout(1373) Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [keystroke 'C'] pasteUp: nil Receiver's instance variables: bounds: 0@0 corner: 569@82 owner: a TransformMorph(2856) submorphs: #() fullBounds: 0@0 corner: 569@82 color: Color black extension: a MorphExtension (1654) [other: (blinkStart -> 898669)] borderWidth: 0 borderColor: Color black textStyle: a TextStyle Bitmap DejaVu Sans 9 text: a Text for 'Object subclass: #NameOfSubclass instanceVariableNames: ''''...etc... wrapFlag: true paragraph: a MultiNewParagraph editor: an OBTextMorphEditorWithShout container: nil predecessor: nil successor: nil backgroundColor: nil margins: nil editHistory: nil editView: an OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(2236) acceptOnCR: false KeyboardEvent>>sentTo: Receiver: [keystroke 'C'] Arguments and temporary variables: anObject: an OBTextMorphWithShout(1373) Receiver's instance variables: timeStamp: 898169 source: a HandMorph(3216) type: #keystroke buttons: 8 position: 17@13 handler: nil wasHandled: true keyValue: 67 OBTextMorphWithShout(Morph)>>handleEvent: Receiver: an OBTextMorphWithShout(1373) Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [keystroke 'C'] Receiver's instance variables: bounds: 0@0 corner: 569@82 owner: a TransformMorph(2856) submorphs: #() fullBounds: 0@0 corner: 569@82 color: Color black extension: a MorphExtension (1654) [other: (blinkStart -> 898669)] borderWidth: 0 borderColor: Color black textStyle: a TextStyle Bitmap DejaVu Sans 9 text: a Text for 'Object subclass: #NameOfSubclass instanceVariableNames: ''''...etc... wrapFlag: true paragraph: a MultiNewParagraph editor: an OBTextMorphEditorWithShout container: nil predecessor: nil successor: nil backgroundColor: nil margins: nil editHistory: nil editView: an OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(2236) acceptOnCR: false OBTextMorphWithShout(Morph)>>handleFocusEvent: Receiver: an OBTextMorphWithShout(1373) Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [keystroke 'C'] Receiver's instance variables: bounds: 0@0 corner: 569@82 owner: a TransformMorph(2856) submorphs: #() fullBounds: 0@0 corner: 569@82 color: Color black extension: a MorphExtension (1654) [other: (blinkStart -> 898669)] borderWidth: 0 borderColor: Color black textStyle: a TextStyle Bitmap DejaVu Sans 9 text: a Text for 'Object subclass: #NameOfSubclass instanceVariableNames: ''''...etc... wrapFlag: true paragraph: a MultiNewParagraph editor: an OBTextMorphEditorWithShout container: nil predecessor: nil successor: nil backgroundColor: nil margins: nil editHistory: nil editView: an OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(2236) acceptOnCR: false [] in HandMorph>>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: Receiver: a HandMorph(3216) Arguments and temporary variables: <<error during printing> Receiver's instance variables: bounds: 747@431 corner: 763@447 owner: a PasteUpMorph(1622) [world] submorphs: #() fullBounds: 747@431 corner: 763@447 color: Color blue extension: a MorphExtension (539) [eventHandler = an EventHandler] mouseFocus: nil keyboardFocus: an OBTextMorphWithShout(1373) eventListeners: nil mouseListeners: nil keyboardListeners: a WeakArray(a DockingBarMorph(3368)) mouseClickState: nil mouseOverHandler: a MouseOverHandler lastMouseEvent: [747@431 747@431 mouseMove SHIFT 898004] targetOffset: 17@13 damageRecorder: a DamageRecorder cacheCanvas: nil cachedCanvasHasHoles: true temporaryCursor: nil temporaryCursorOffset: nil hardwareCursor: nil hasChanged: true savedPatch: nil userInitials: '' lastEventBuffer: #(1 898004 747 431 0 1 0 1) genieGestureProcessor: nil keyboardInterpreter: a MacUnicodeInputInterpreter BlockClosure>>on:do: Receiver: [closure] in HandMorph>>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: Arguments and temporary variables: exception: Error handlerAction: [closure] in PasteUpMorph>>becomeActiveDuring: handlerActive: false Receiver's instance variables: outerContext: HandMorph>>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: startpc: 63 numArgs: 0 PasteUpMorph>>becomeActiveDuring: Receiver: a PasteUpMorph(1622) [world] Arguments and temporary variables: aBlock: [closure] in HandMorph>>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: priorWorld: a PasteUpMorph(1622) [world] priorHand: a HandMorph(3216) priorEvent: nil Receiver's instance variables: bounds: 0@0 corner: 1600@952 owner: nil submorphs: {a SystemWindow(418) . a DockingBarMorph(3368) . a PluggableSystemWi...etc... fullBounds: 0@0 corner: 1600@952 color: an InfiniteForm extension: a MorphExtension (2543) [eventHandler = an EventHandler] [other: (...etc... borderWidth: 0 borderColor: (Color r: 0.515 g: 0.181 b: 0.263) presenter: an EtoysPresenter (2627) model: a MorphicModel(3376) cursor: 1 padding: 3 backgroundMorph: nil turtleTrailsForm: nil turtlePen: nil lastTurtlePositions: nil isPartsBin: nil indicateCursor: nil wantsMouseOverHalos: nil worldState: a WorldState griddingOn: nil HandMorph>>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: Receiver: a HandMorph(3216) Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [keystroke 'C'] focusHolder: an OBTextMorphWithShout(1373) aBlock: [closure] in HandMorph>>sendKeyboardEvent: w: a PasteUpMorph(1622) [world] result: #(nil) Receiver's instance variables: bounds: 747@431 corner: 763@447 owner: a PasteUpMorph(1622) [world] submorphs: #() fullBounds: 747@431 corner: 763@447 color: Color blue extension: a MorphExtension (539) [eventHandler = an EventHandler] mouseFocus: nil keyboardFocus: an OBTextMorphWithShout(1373) eventListeners: nil mouseListeners: nil keyboardListeners: a WeakArray(a DockingBarMorph(3368)) mouseClickState: nil mouseOverHandler: a MouseOverHandler lastMouseEvent: [747@431 747@431 mouseMove SHIFT 898004] targetOffset: 17@13 damageRecorder: a DamageRecorder cacheCanvas: nil cachedCanvasHasHoles: true temporaryCursor: nil temporaryCursorOffset: nil hardwareCursor: nil hasChanged: true savedPatch: nil userInitials: '' lastEventBuffer: #(1 898004 747 431 0 1 0 1) genieGestureProcessor: nil keyboardInterpreter: a MacUnicodeInputInterpreter HandMorph>>sendEvent:focus:clear: Receiver: a HandMorph(3216) Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [keystroke 'C'] focusHolder: an OBTextMorphWithShout(1373) aBlock: [closure] in HandMorph>>sendKeyboardEvent: result: nil Receiver's instance variables: bounds: 747@431 corner: 763@447 owner: a PasteUpMorph(1622) [world] submorphs: #() fullBounds: 747@431 corner: 763@447 color: Color blue extension: a MorphExtension (539) [eventHandler = an EventHandler] mouseFocus: nil keyboardFocus: an OBTextMorphWithShout(1373) eventListeners: nil mouseListeners: nil keyboardListeners: a WeakArray(a DockingBarMorph(3368)) mouseClickState: nil mouseOverHandler: a MouseOverHandler lastMouseEvent: [747@431 747@431 mouseMove SHIFT 898004] targetOffset: 17@13 damageRecorder: a DamageRecorder cacheCanvas: nil cachedCanvasHasHoles: true temporaryCursor: nil temporaryCursorOffset: nil hardwareCursor: nil hasChanged: true savedPatch: nil userInitials: '' lastEventBuffer: #(1 898004 747 431 0 1 0 1) genieGestureProcessor: nil keyboardInterpreter: a MacUnicodeInputInterpreter HandMorph>>sendKeyboardEvent: Receiver: a HandMorph(3216) Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [keystroke 'C'] Receiver's instance variables: bounds: 747@431 corner: 763@447 owner: a PasteUpMorph(1622) [world] submorphs: #() fullBounds: 747@431 corner: 763@447 color: Color blue extension: a MorphExtension (539) [eventHandler = an EventHandler] mouseFocus: nil keyboardFocus: an OBTextMorphWithShout(1373) eventListeners: nil mouseListeners: nil keyboardListeners: a WeakArray(a DockingBarMorph(3368)) mouseClickState: nil mouseOverHandler: a MouseOverHandler lastMouseEvent: [747@431 747@431 mouseMove SHIFT 898004] targetOffset: 17@13 damageRecorder: a DamageRecorder cacheCanvas: nil cachedCanvasHasHoles: true temporaryCursor: nil temporaryCursorOffset: nil hardwareCursor: nil hasChanged: true savedPatch: nil userInitials: '' lastEventBuffer: #(1 898004 747 431 0 1 0 1) genieGestureProcessor: nil keyboardInterpreter: a MacUnicodeInputInterpreter --- The full stack --- UndefinedObject(Object)>>mustBeBooleanIn: UndefinedObject(Object)>>mustBeBoolean OBDefinitionPanel>>createCompletionController OBDefinitionPanel(OBTextPanel)>>initializeCompletionController OBDefinitionPanel>>completionController ECToolSet class>>codeCompletionAround:textMorph:keyStroke: ToolSet class>>codeCompletionAround:textMorph:keyStroke: OBTextMorphWithShout(TextMorph)>>keyStroke: OBTextMorphWithShout(TextMorphForEditView)>>keyStroke: OBTextMorphWithShout(TextMorph)>>handleKeystroke: KeyboardEvent>>sentTo: OBTextMorphWithShout(Morph)>>handleEvent: OBTextMorphWithShout(Morph)>>handleFocusEvent: [] in HandMorph>>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: BlockClosure>>on:do: PasteUpMorph>>becomeActiveDuring: HandMorph>>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: HandMorph>>sendEvent:focus:clear: HandMorph>>sendKeyboardEvent: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - HandMorph>>handleEvent: HandMorph>>processEvents [] in WorldState>>doOneCycleNowFor: Array(SequenceableCollection)>>do: WorldState>>handsDo: WorldState>>doOneCycleNowFor: WorldState>>doOneCycleFor: PasteUpMorph>>doOneCycle [] in Project class>>spawnNewProcess [] in BlockClosure>>newProcess

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Metacello and Squeak4.4
by Dale Henrichs 01 Mar '13

01 Mar '13

I have a small 3 class package (Metacello-Base[1]) that I would hope could be included in the Squeak4.4 release. Of the 3 classes, the Metacello class is a stub class for the Metacello Scripting Api[2], that will bootstrap Metacello _if_ you use the scripting api. I am promoting the scripting api as the cross platform way to use Metacello. Instead of seeing install scripts fly by that look like this: Gofer new package: 'ConfigurationOfSeaside30'; squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfSeaside30) version: #stable) load. (with the caveat that Installer should be used for Squeak)...the install scripts will look like this: Metacello new configuration: 'Seaside30'; version: #stable; squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; load. The same script will "do the right thing" on all three supported platforms (Squeak, Pharo, GemStone), presuming that the class Metacello is present in the base images:) I've recently released a preview version[4] and am actively collecting feedback. I would think that I can finalize the visible portion of the scripting api by September... I've been ensuring that the metacello preview release is functional on Squeak all along and I am currently running CI builds against Squeak4.3 using travis ci[5]. Moving forward I would add Squeak4.4 to the list of platforms for CI and publish updates to the Metacello-Base pacakge as needed. The class comments for each of the classes provides basic documentation for using Metacello so I think that Metacello-Base is a clean and small presence for Metacello and will enable the use of "cross-platform install scripts for Metacello." Thanks, Dale [1] http://seaside.gemstone.com/ss/metacello/Metacello-Base-dkh.96.mcz [2] https://github.com/dalehenrich/metacello-work/blob/master/docs/MetacelloUse… [4] http://forum.world.st/Metacello-Preview-release-1-0-beta-32-2-tt4642064.html [5] http://travis-ci.org/#!/dalehenrich/metacello-work/builds/2012331

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New release candidate: 4.4-12324
by Frank Shearar 20 Feb '13

20 Feb '13

http://squeakci.org/job/ReleaseSqueakTrunk/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/tar… I'm trying to automate more and more of the build/release process. See https://github.com/frankshearar/squeak-ci/tree/download-vms for details. (I'll merge this branch back into master at some point in the near future.) frank

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[ANN] Fuel 1.8.1
by Max Leske 15 Feb '13

15 Feb '13

We want to announce Fuel release 1.8.1. This release includes one fix: serialization / materialization of Date objects. The rest of the work went into making fuel work with as many images as possible. All tests run green. Supported and tested images: Pharo 1.1.1, 1.1.2, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4, 2.0 Squeak 4.1, 4.2, 4.3, 4.4 Have fun!

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Cryptography - Problem with SSH client
by Guido Chari 14 Feb '13

14 Feb '13

I'm having some problems connecting to an SSH server from Squeak. The server is in my localhost and i test it with a unix ssh client with no problems. However, when i tried to connect from Squeak i received an error ("bad signature") on SSHDHGroup1KeyExchangeProcessor>>processServerDHReplyMsg:securityParams: method on the key exchange phase of the algorithm. Does anybody use the SSH client from the cryptography package? What should be the error? Cheers, Guido.

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Re: [squeak-dev] The Inbox: SMLoader-fbs.78.mcz
by Frank Shearar 12 Feb '13

12 Feb '13

On 9 January 2013 12:55, <commits(a)source.squeak.org> wrote: > Frank Shearar uploaded a new version of SMLoader to project The Inbox: > http://source.squeak.org/inbox/SMLoader-fbs.78.mcz > > ==================== Summary ==================== > > Name: SMLoader-fbs.78 > Author: fbs > Time: 9 January 2013, 12:55:26.488 pm > UUID: affd02cf-4ff4-4bd1-a33f-89ce0d974bf5 > Ancestors: SMLoader-cmm.77 > > The UI part of supporting multiple Squeak versions in an SM release. > > Todo: POSTing the multiple versions. > > =============== Diff against SMLoader-cmm.77 =============== I would love to know what I need to do to implement POSTing a release with multiple Squeak versions. SqueakMap gurus? frank

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SqueakCore
by Pavel Krivanek 11 Feb '13

11 Feb '13

Hi, this is the first unkempt attempt to produce SqueakCore image from Squeak4.4-12324. It generates 3 MB dirty image (3.2 with Unicode tables). Some overrides have only logging purpose. Cheers, -- Pavel

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[Cuis] [Ann] Cuis 4.1 is released
by Juan Vuletich (mail lists) 11 Feb '13

11 Feb '13

Hi Folks, Cuis 4.1 is available at http://www.jvuletich.org/Cuis/Index.html . Biggest news is in the Morph hierarchy. Ivars 'bounds' and 'fullBounds' are gone! All coordinates are now Float and relative to the owner morph. This is part of the transition to Morphic 3. The drawing engine is still BitBlt and the UI is not scalable yet, but Morphic 3 is now much closer. Cheers, Juan Vuletich _______________________________________________ Cuis mailing list Cuis(a)jvuletich.org http://jvuletich.org/mailman/listinfo/cuis_jvuletich.org

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