Squeak-dev March 2011

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www.squeak.org has yet to refer to the 4.2 release
by Eliot Miranda 16 May '11

16 May '11

Google Squeak 4.2. Top three hits: Search Results 1. *Squeak 4.2* <http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6160> *Squeak 4.2*. Last updated at 4:29 pm UTC on 27 December 2010 *...* Want to see if this can be phased out as of the 4.2 release in lieu of the new Stack *...* wiki.*squeak*.org/*squeak*/6160 - Cached<http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:4kVBFXJoVn0J:wiki.sque…> ► 2. *Squeak* Smalltalk <http://www.squeak.org/> Feb 3, 2011 *...* *Squeak 4.2* has been released after nine months in * ...* www.*squeak*.org/ - Cached<http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:DnfJBjhFCxwJ:www.squea…> - Similar<http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en&q=related:…> *Squeak 4.2* final now out! « The Weekly Squeak<http://news.squeak.org/2011/02/03/squeak-4-2-final-now-out/> Feb 3, 2011 *...* See Help > Welcome Workspaces > Welcome to *Squeak 4.2* for *...* news.*squeak*.org/2011/02/03/*squeak*-4-2-final-now-out/ - Cached<http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:qSyOptYkJMkJ:news.sque…> Follow the first one. There is no download link on the 4.2 release page that I can see. This page is out of date, still referring to "release time sometin=me in January". Click the "top" link to get to http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak. The obvious link to click is "Downloading Squeak <http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/388>". The top link http://ftp.squeak.org/current_stable/ takes us to a 4.1 download. The rest of the page talks about 3.10, 3.9 and earlier. I would update these pages but I don't know /where/ the 4.2 release is, because... of the above. best Eliot

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Obsolete PackageInfos Was: [squeak-dev] The Inbox: Monticello-bp.406.mcz
by Bernhard Pieber 15 Apr '11

15 Apr '11

I am trying to understand the class PackageInfo better, especially where its instances are held. There seem to be two places in the image. 1. PackageOrganizer default packages - This is in the PackageInfo-Base package and therefore is independent of Monticello. You can see this list if you do PackageList open. Does anyone use that UI? If yes, what for? 2. MCWorkingCopy registry collect: [:each | each packageInfo] - This is the list of PackageInfos Monticello knows about and shows in the Monticello Browser. In the current trunk image the first list is larger than the second, there are 24 PackageInfos Monticello does not know about: (PackageInfo allPackages difference: (MCWorkingCopy registry collect: [:each | each packageInfo])) I cannot think of any use for those, so I think they are obsolete. I found a message send to remove them: MCWorkingCopy flushObsoletePackageInfos. I took some code from there and created a query method obsoletePackageInfos. I think this is useful. What do you think? IMO MCWorkingCopy flushObsoletePackageInfos should be called in the trunk image. What do you think about that? Cheers, Bernhard Am 31.10.2010 um 15:55 schrieb commits(a)source.squeak.org: > A new version of Monticello was added to project The Inbox: > http://source.squeak.org/inbox/Monticello-bp.406.mcz > > ==================== Summary ==================== > > Name: Monticello-bp.406 > Author: bp > Time: 31 October 2010, 4:38:59.454 pm > UUID: 2bc8f189-09ca-4471-b0fe-89c70f4f379d > Ancestors: Monticello-nice.405 > > added obsoletePackageInfos > > =============== Diff against Monticello-nice.405 =============== > > Item was added: > + ----- Method: MCPackageManager class>>obsoletePackageInfos (in category 'cleanup') ----- > + obsoletePackageInfos > + "Answer all PackageInfos that are not associated with an MCPackageManager." > + | pkgNames | > + pkgNames := self allManagers collect: [:wcs | wcs packageName] as: Set. > + ^PackageOrganizer default packages select: [:p | > + p class isObsolete or: [(pkgNames includes: p packageName) not]]! > >

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Re: [squeak-dev] The Inbox: EToys-rjh.76.mcz
by Hannes Hirzel 15 Apr '11

15 Apr '11

I support this addition.... --Hannes On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:49:22.117 0000, commits(a)source.squeak.org <commits(a)source.squeak.org> wrote: > A new version of EToys was added to project The Inbox: > http://source.squeak.org/inbox/EToys-rjh.76.mcz > > ==================== Summary ==================== > > Name: EToys-rjh.76 > Author: rjh > Time: 28 September 2010, 7:49:07.394 pm > UUID: 12db789e-0c08-40a0-a7d4-bc5636a4ad19 > Ancestors: EToys-ar.75 > > Please see the existing squeak-dev thread: "forward: and turn: in Morph - > are we missing immediacy?" > > Currently, immediacy is lost because the following gives an error: > x:=EllipseMorph new openInHand. > x forward: 100 > > This proposed change makes good sense for the initial teaching of Smalltalk > by hiding a very quirky and state based behaviour. > > =============== Diff against EToys-ar.75 =============== > > Item was added: > + ----- Method: Morph>>forward: (in category '*Etoys') ----- > + forward: distance > + self assuredPlayer forward: distance! > > Item was added: > + ----- Method: Morph>>turn: (in category '*Etoys') ----- > + turn: angle > + self assuredPlayer turn: angle! > > >

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Re: [squeak-dev] The Inbox: Sound-hjh.16.mcz
by Hannes Hirzel 15 Apr '11

15 Apr '11

P.S. I do not consider this fix to be a great idea (yet). The reasons why I have posted this 1) I would like to draw the attention to the class SampledSound (away from 'String', I do not like the idea of putting more things there) 2) I would just like to find out if there are some easy possibilities that we can make the sound library interface a bit more user friendly ('a small sound access DSL) --Hannes On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 15:24:24.473 0000, commits(a)source.squeak.org <commits(a)source.squeak.org> wrote: > A new version of Sound was added to project The Inbox: > http://source.squeak.org/inbox/Sound-hjh.16.mcz > > ==================== Summary ==================== > > Name: Sound-hjh.16 > Author: hjh > Time: 28 April 2010, 3:22:50.121 pm > UUID: 5859af18-61f2-4d48-83c9-f8703d57aeb3 > Ancestors: Sound-nice.15 > > playSoundNamed: aString > > does not play anything if there is no sound with the name 'aString'. The > user gets a dialog which is fine. But maybe there should be a sound as well. > > The playing of sounds should be made easier. > > SampledSound playSoundNamed: 'hello' > > is clumsy. > > Something like > Sound play: 'hello' > > (There is not class sound which is a bit odd, there is AbstractSound and > SampledSound for example) > > =============== Diff against Sound-nice.15 =============== > > Item was changed: > ----- Method: SampledSound class>>playSoundNamed: (in category 'sound > library') ----- > playSoundNamed: aString > "Play the sound with given name. Do nothing if there is no sound of that > name in the library." > "SampledSound playSoundNamed: 'croak'" > > | snd | > snd := self soundNamed: aString. > + snd ifNil: [snd:=Beeper default]. > + snd play. > + ^ snd > - snd ifNotNil: [snd play]. > - ^ snd > ! > > >

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[ANN] Squeak Oversight Board Election 2011!!!
by Göran Krampe 10 Apr '11

10 Apr '11

Fellow Squeakers, Approximately one year has passed (cough, cough) and it is high time for yet another Squeak Oversight Board Election! Every year we elect the SOB (Squeak Oversight Board) consisting of seven members from our community. The current board is: http://www.squeak.org/Foundation/Board Everything about the election, including schedule and more, can be tracked here: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6162 Since the election process has not been reformed during this last year, the schedule and process of the Election is as "usual" which follows (reserved for changes, will be final on the 13th of March at the latest): *** Now through 27th March: Nominations of SOB members and campaigning! Candidates should nominate themselves and start their campaign on the squeak-dev mailing list. Or if you nominate someone else, make sure that person really wants to run. :) I will not put anyone on the candidate list until that person makes it known on squeak-dev that he/she does run. *** 27th March: The candidate list is finalized. *** 27th March to 3rd April: Continued campaigning period During this period, the candidates should ideally present themselves on squeak-dev, unless they have already done so, and the community can ask questions. *** 3rd April 6PM (18.00 UTC): Online election starts The voting period is one week long and ballots are sent out via email. And how do you end up on the voter list? See below. :) IMPORTANT: New voters will NOT be added once the election is started. You MUST try to get on the voter list before the 3rd April or you will NOT be able to vote. *** 10th April 6PM (18.00 UTC): Online election ends Results will be announced immediately when the election ends. -------------------------- If you were invited to vote last year you are already on the voter list, no worries! If you are a new Squeaker and wish to vote do ONE of the following: * Get a "known" Squeaker to vouch for you. If a known Squeaker sends an email to voters at squeak.org giving me name and email for you, then I will add you. * Send an email to voters at squeak.org yourself (and CC to squeak-dev if you like) with information/arguments showing me that you are indeed serious about voting and that you are indeed a Squeaker. And no, I don't have any hints on what you should write! :) Unless you totally screw that up, you will probably be added. When the voting period starts all voters will receive an email with instructions and a link to the voting website. If there are any further questions, just reply *in this thread* and I will closely track it - or send email to voters at squeak.org which points to me. ...so let's get on with it! regards, Göran Krampe

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SimpleMorphic Editors
by Balázs Kósi 08 Apr '11

08 Apr '11

Hi, > - The Editor hierarchy in Cuis has been updated in a very nice way > (event dispatch) but there are lots of changes compared with Squeak. > Menus are different also. Making SimpleMorphic loadable as a project > type makes it easy to compare the two. I renamed some of the event > handling methods (e.g. Editor>>backspace: becomes Editor>>backspaceEvent: > so the original Editor>>backspace: method remains in place for use > by Morphic and MVC). What do you think about copying Cuis' Editor hierarchy for SimpleMorphic instead of adapting the current Editor hierarchy to cope in both environments? Balázs

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Re: Refactoring Browser and Rewrite Engine for Squeak
by Chris Cunnington 07 Apr '11

07 Apr '11

Well, I just took a 4.2 and used that code in your message and I've got it working, so clearly what you're saying is better. Help>>ExtendingTheSystem seems to be a bit problematic. Chris

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The 2011 Squeak board election
by Nikolay Suslov 05 Apr '11

05 Apr '11

Hello! I'd like to throw my hat in the ring for the coming 2001 Squeak board election. Admiring and putting a very high hopes on what VPRI <http://www.vpri.org>does these days, thinking that the moment has come and we could have some of it's public available projects (OMeta, Worlds) being included in the current mainstream Squeak. OMeta <http://www.tinlizzie.org/ometa/> is a new object-oriented language for pattern matching, thus it could be used in a lot of places in the current Squeak, while generalising and simplifying a lot of things (XML parsing, styling, working with files and browsers, ect) just today! Another task, I wanted to be realised with OMeta, is getting the localised Smalltalk language programming support for non-english speakers. And the long term goal, is making modular Squeak trough Yoshiki's SqueakBootstrapper<https://github.com/yoshikiohshima/SqueakBootstrapper> . Getting the green light to these novel projects in the current more or less stable Squeak 4.x today, could really bring closer all the known forks and projects, like EToys, Croquet/Cobalt, LivelyKernel, ect. and will prepare the Squeak to it's future, meaning: an upcoming Ian Piumarta's COLA architecture <http://piumarta.com/software/cola/>. Best regards, Nikolay Suslov http://www.krestianstvo.org http://nsuslovi.blogspot.com

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Monticello refresh broken?
by Frank Shearar 04 Apr '11

04 Apr '11

If you go to http://source.squeak.org/inbox/, you'll see Tools-fbs.337.mcz However, when I open a Monticello browser and point it to the inbox repository, I don't see that file. I only see up to version 333. If I hit the Refresh button, it looks like nothing at all happens: the action completed very quickly (sub 1 second), and of course I don't see any newer versions. This is in a trunk image, 11196. frank

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Google for Squeak Source Codes
by Zhe-Xi Lim 04 Apr '11

04 Apr '11

Hi, I am implementing a miniature version of Google to facilitate the searching on source codes in Squeak. I had been able to construct an index which contains all the keywords of source codes in Squeak. Next, I will develop an algorithm to improve the efficiency to search all these keywords in the index and then a simple search UI will be there to provide code searching facility to all Squeak users. Thanks. Regards, Zhe Xi ----- Zhe-Xi -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Google-for-Squeak-Source-Codes-tp3326787p3326787.html Sent from the Squeak - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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