Squeak-dev June 2007

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[ANN] Pastell - an XPath-like library for easy DOM navigation
by Giovanni Corriga 29 Jun '07

29 Jun '07

Hi all, I've released a small add-on for Yaxo called Pastell, that makes navigation of an XML DOM tree much easier. Pastell may be found in its repository on SqueakSource: http://www.squeaksource.com/Pastell.html . The swiki has a copy of the documentation (which is included in the package) at http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/Pastell . Ciao, Giovanni

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RE: Paying for projects
by J J 29 Jun '07

29 Jun '07

Two reasons:1) I don't want to spam everyone with the details. Most people that would be interested would just want "X project complete and here's what it does"2) I don't want input about the value of the project from people who have no intention of doing the work or paying to get work done. If you think my project ideas are crap, fine, but I don't want my list to get weighted down with that kind of stuff. I am making things I want to use, if no one else in the world would want it, that's fine.Thanks,Jason> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 09:37:05 +0200> From: damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> To: squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> Subject: Re: Paying for projects> > Hi,> > I think it's a good idea. Your project list might be of interest for> everyone, so why not sending it to the main mailing list?> > Bye> > 2007/6/27, J J <azreal1977(a)hotmail.com>:> >> > Hi all,> >> > As you have probably seen, I see a lot of things I want to see done in> > Smalltalk, but I don't have time to do any of it. My "eyes are bigger then> > my stomach" as it were. So it occurred to me today that a possible solution> > to this problem would be to simply pay to have some of the work done.> >> > So to that end, I would like anyone who would be interested to let me know.> > I will set up a mailing list for any people would want to be take (or give)> > projects. I will suggest my project on the list, you can answer me> > privately (or publicly) with your bids. I will select someone, and publicly> > announce that it has been filled. After that it depends; we can talk> > publicly over the list, or use an intermediate like rentacoder [1] to ensure> > that both sides are safe. That is, I don't want to pay if I can't use the> > finished product, nor do I want the person doing the work to fear that they> > may get nothing for it.> >> > We can negotiate the different things, time frames, price, features. I> > mostly only be doing smallish projects. The payouts would probably be on> > the order of $50 - $100 USD but the projects should be small (and often) as> > well. And if this catches on, there could be much bigger projects or people> > may chip in to sweeten some of the more interesting pots.> >> > Some people have expressed concerns about bounties in the past that people> > might have their feelings hurt if they don't get picked. So I would just> > like to point out, this has nothing to do with the board or anything else.> > This is just something I wanted to do. I will choose the person the same> > way any worker is chosen for a given, i.e. the best> > fit/price/availability/reputation.> >> > The payout will work in the same way it's done on rentacoder: We have a bid> > off for who will do the job, negotiate the parameters and pick the best> > overall fit, then you do the work, then when it's finished if I accept you> > are paid. If I don't accept you can try to bring it up to spec, decide to> > give up, or ask for an arbitration if you think you have met requirements.> > In the case of the rentacoder site, the payment money is deposited as soon> > as I accept a bidder so no one can "take their ball and go home".> >> > I'm a big experimenter so many of the projects may be that you get paid and> > then never hear anything more (because I decide I don't want to go that way> > after all). But hopefully the money can soften that blow a little. :)> >> > And lastly, I know Squeak is largely a gift community, and I don't want to> > upset that. I think it is good that people give things to the community> > (and I will most likely release everything I pay for). I don't want to> > create a situation where everyone expects to be paid for everything. This> > is simply a case that I have not managed to get anyone interested in my> > ideas by talking, I can't realize them myself (this decade anyway), so my> > last option is to pay.> >> > Thanks,> > Jason> >> > [1] The advantage of using rentacoder as an intermediate is that it's> > established, and everyone will see the projects so it will be more smalltalk> > exposure.> >> > ________________________________> > Live Earth is coming. Learn more about the hottest summer event - only on> > MSN. Check it out!> >> >> >> > > -- > Damien Cassou> _________________________________________________________________ Live Earth is coming. Learn more about the hottest summer event - only on MSN. http://liveearth.msn.com?source=msntaglineliveearthwlm

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Re: [ANN][Squeak-dev Beta Image] Version 123
by Ken G. Brown 29 Jun '07

29 Jun '07

Actually in thinking about it a bit further, I wouldn't mind seeing something like: squeak3.10-7119dev07.6.2Beta.image or really, what good does Beta even serve? so: squeak3.10-7119dev07.6.2.image or even shorter for example if that's what is wanted: sq3.9-7067dev07.6.1.image sq3.10-7119dev07.6.2.image Ken >Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 07:41:25 +0200 >From: "Damien Cassou" <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> >Subject: Re: [ANN][Squeak-dev Beta Image] Version 123 >To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list" > <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> >Message-ID: > <6ac749c10706272241m29e12067h1c6f57721921005a(a)mail.gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > >2007/6/28, Ken G. Brown <kbrown(a)mac.com>: >> I'm a bit confused with all the different versions of everything. >> Might there be a more consistent methodology of versioning? >> On June 18th, you mentioned changing your versioning scheme. >> Might I ask which version of 123 is this? As far as I know there already was a dev version 123. > > >St©phane answered to an old mail that's why the title is 123. My two >last images are named squeak-dev-07.6 and squeak-dev-beta-07.6. Beta >images have always been based on 3.10 whereas non beta are based on >3.9. > > >> Could the dev image include the 3.9 or 3.10 along with the update level in the versioning? > >Isn't the "beta" in the name enough? > >-- >Damien Cassou

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ESUG Awards 2007
by Noury Bouraqadi 28 Jun '07

28 Jun '07

Dear Smalltalkers, The 4th edition of the ESUG Innovation Technology Awards will be held at Lugano next august as part of the ESUG yearly conference. As, you might know, the goal of this competition is to have demos of cool software built using Smalltalk. I'd like to stress that every smalltalker can run for this contest. In previous editions, we had software developed both by professionals and by students new to Smalltalk. More on : http://www.esug.org/conferences/awards2007/ Feel free to contact me for any question, Noury ------------------------------------------------------------------ Dr. Noury Bouraqadi - Enseignant/Chercheur Responsable de l'option I.S.I.C. ARMINES - Ecole des Mines de Douai - Dept. I.A. http://csl.ensm-douai.fr/noury European Smalltalk Users Group Board http://www.esug.org ------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [ANN][Squeak-dev Beta Image] Version 123
by Damien Cassou 28 Jun '07

28 Jun '07

2007/6/28, Ken G. Brown <kbrown(a)mac.com>: > Beta is ok once you know I guess, but perhaps is not as clear for someone new to it. And once it is based on 3.11, it will look the same as one based on 3.10. I will try to remember for the next version. If I don't, you can remind me :-D. Bye -- Damien Cassou

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Re: Pretty Print of space literal in 3.9
by Klaus D. Witzel 28 Jun '07

28 Jun '07

Hi Alex, good find! I reportet the problem with (Character space) and ($ ) some time ago, - http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=4322 It breaks decompiler tests :( /Klaus On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 15:02:11 +0200, Alexander Lazarevic wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > The pretty print of #($ ) in a method turns into #(Character space ) > > Alex > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFGg7FRYiF2wSTEZ9gRAiVyAKDnbksv7r8xj0uUjUYsIuRGmec2TgCgjnV/ > V7IdGPFOFzA3lzorUoCb7PM= > =TBkU > -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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RESTful Web Services' examples converted to Squeak
by Giovanni Corriga 28 Jun '07

28 Jun '07

Hi all, I'm currently reading the RESTful Web Services book ( http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596529260/ ). Since most of the examples are in Ruby, I though it would be a good idea to Squeak versions of them. So I asked and obtained a permission from O'Reilly to publish them on my blog. The first two articles are here: http://blogs.corriga.net/giovanni/archives/2007/6/28/converting_restful_web… http://blogs.corriga.net/giovanni/archives/2007/6/28/restful_web_services_e… You may track the whole series of articles from this web page: http://blogs.corriga.net/giovanni/archives/tags/restfulwebservices or with this RSS feed: http://blogs.corriga.net/giovanni/archives/tags/restfulwebservices/rss . As usual, comments are always welcome. Ciao, Giovanni

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Re: [ANN][Squeak-dev Beta Image] Version 123
by Ken G. Brown 28 Jun '07

28 Jun '07

>Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 07:41:25 +0200 >From: "Damien Cassou" <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> >Subject: Re: [ANN][Squeak-dev Beta Image] Version 123 ><snip> > >> Could the dev image include the 3.9 or 3.10 along with the update level in the versioning? > >Isn't the "beta" in the name enough? > >-- >Damien Cassou Beta is ok once you know I guess, but perhaps is not as clear for someone new to it. And once it is based on 3.11, it will look the same as one based on 3.10. Ken

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Pretty Print of space literal in 3.9
by Alexander Lazarević 28 Jun '07

28 Jun '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The pretty print of #($ ) in a method turns into #(Character space ) Alex -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGg7FRYiF2wSTEZ9gRAiVyAKDnbksv7r8xj0uUjUYsIuRGmec2TgCgjnV/ V7IdGPFOFzA3lzorUoCb7PM= =TBkU -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Omnibrowser - SystemBrowser - display all methods by default when selecting a class
by Cédrick Béler 28 Jun '07

28 Jun '07

Hi, I'm struggling to do this (actually a bit lost with the OB framework...): 1) In the system browser, I'd like to display all methods when selecting a class - Alexandre Bergel posted a cs for that but I can't find it anymore and I can't do it by myself too. Does someone have this change set or can you tell me where to look at... What is the "action" done when selecting a class (probably an announcment related update...) ? 2) also when displaying all methods, I'd like to color each list item according to a category color. Is it feasible ? Can you point me where to look at ? Thanks Cédrick

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