https://blog.krestianstvo.org/en/open-croquet-for-squeak-6/ https://blog.krestianstvo.org/en/open-croquet-for-squeak-6/
This sounds really cool, but there’s an issue coming up:
Apple is doing away with ANY support for 32-bit apps and plugins and of course, Croquet is built for 32-bits and uses 32-bit plugins all over the place.
Croquet could STILL be the killer-app for Smalltalk even though it never realized its potential in the past, and it won’t be able to if something isn’t done about the looming 32-bit vs 64-bit issue.
Need I point out that it should work on Pharo just the same way it does on Squeak?
L
LawsonEnglish wrote:
Croquet could STILL be the killer-app for Smalltalk even though it never realized its potential in the past, and it won’t be able to if something isn’t done about the looming 32-bit vs 64-bit issue.
+1
Hi Lawson,
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 01:24:16PM -0700, LawsonEnglish wrote:
https://blog.krestianstvo.org/en/open-croquet-for-squeak-6/ https://blog.krestianstvo.org/en/open-croquet-for-squeak-6/
This sounds really cool, but there???s an issue coming up:
Apple is doing away with ANY support for 32-bit apps and plugins and of course, Croquet is built for 32-bits and uses 32-bit plugins all over the place.
We collectively have a good deal of experience in updating plugins for 64 bits, and of course the VMs (the "application") are already there. Can you remind us what plugins are needed for Croquet that are not already in the supported VMs?
Thanks, Dave
Croquet could STILL be the killer-app for Smalltalk even though it never realized its potential in the past, and it won???t be able to if something isn???t done about the looming 32-bit vs 64-bit issue.
Need I point out that it should work on Pharo just the same way it does on Squeak?
L
Hello Lawson,
Thanks for raising that question about 64 bit future of Open Croquet and Mac OS X support. I have tested the possibility of running Open Croquet on recent 64 bit version of Squeak 5.2. And it seems to be working, on Windows at least. Due to the B3DAccelerator and Croquet plugins, which are available in recent Squeak 64 bit VMs (there are still some issues with B3DAccelerator plugin on macOS). Here is preloaded image for Squeak: https://www.krestianstvo.org/sdk/croquet/Squeak5.2-18225-64bit-Croquet-Image... Yes, you are right, that replication from participant running Croquet 64 bit image onto participant with 32 bit image or vice versa will not work properly by default. What is about supporting of 3D graphics in future versions of macOS, may be the time is coming to think about Metal FFI bindings. And yes, potentially this integration should work on Pharo too.
Best regards, Nikolai
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 11:24 PM LawsonEnglish LEnglish5@cox.net wrote:
https://blog.krestianstvo.org/en/open-croquet-for-squeak-6/
This sounds really cool, but there’s an issue coming up:
Apple is doing away with ANY support for 32-bit apps and plugins and of course, Croquet is built for 32-bits and uses 32-bit plugins all over the place.
Croquet could STILL be the killer-app for Smalltalk even though it never realized its potential in the past, and it won’t be able to if something isn’t done about the looming 32-bit vs 64-bit issue.
Need I point out that it should work on Pharo just the same way it does on Squeak?
L
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