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John M McIntosh

11 Mar 2007 11 Mar '07

1:32 a.m.

I've pushed out a 3.8.15b5 to address an error in the 3.8.15b4 VM with the new browser plugin interface and firefox.

http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com/squeak.html

I added three new features. One is SqueakDebug setting in the VM and browser plugin to enable you to print some diagnostics messages for the browser interface and module loading, I'll add more message in the future.

The second is a SqueakQuitOnQuitAppleEvent flag that is used to quit the VM immediately if we get the quit event, which happens when a user logs out. Likely this is the wrong choice, still for people doing vertical apps you need someone to prevent the VM from cancelling the logout process. MIT's Scratch will use this feature.

Finally I altered the logic when we look at the edit menu 'Quit do not save' If the application has used the VM's builtin feature to modify the mac menus then they might have changed the menu item from 'Quit do not save' to perform Foobar.

3.8.15b5 squeakBrowser-info.plist add SqueakDebug parm (1) debug msgs, (0) no debug msgs

npsqueak.c streamline context usage a bit, make local var versus on structure add logic to print msgs based on info.plist

sqMacMain.c Add SqueakDebug parm (1) debug msgs, (0) no debug msgs debug messages for browser interface, and module loading Add SqueakQuitOnQuitAppleEvent, true if we should quit immediately if operating system sends us quit msg, as a result of logout. Normally false.

sqMacUIAppleEvents.c If you logout we get a quit apple event msg, normally we ignore, unless SqueakQuitOnQuitAppleEvent is set.

sqMacUIEventsUniversal.c If the user picks edit menu, item one, actually check to see if the string is "Quit do not save", if so then quit, otherwise pass revised menu choice to Smalltalk.

sqMacUnixExternalPrims.c Look to SqueakDebug for msg printing

sqMacWindowUniversal.c Look to SqueakDebug for msg printing, mind file does not print any msgs yet

-- ======================================================================== === John M. McIntosh johnmci@smalltalkconsulting.com Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com ======================================================================== ===

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Bruce O'Neel

27 Mar 27 Mar

5:55 p.m.

Hi,

There seems to be a small problem with yellow on intel macs only, with Squeak 3.8.15beta1U from the FTP site.

If you download http://earth.pckswarms.ch/earthSwarms-1.0_Mac.dmg.gz and run it on a PPC system then the mountain peaks will be yellowish/brownish, but, on an intel mac the mountain peaks will be purblish/bluish. As you push the button labeled topography until it says cloud fraction, it's different yellows on a PPC but all white on an Intel mac.

The PPC behavior is the same as Linux and Windows.

Thanks very much for all your work on the Mac VM!

cheers

bruce

----- Message d'origine ----- De: John M McIntosh johnmci@smalltalkconsulting.com Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 16:32:23 -0800 Sujet: Mac Carbon VM 3.8.15b5 pending À: The general-purpose Squeak developers list squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org

...

I've pushed out a 3.8.15b5 to address an error in the 3.8.15b4 VM with the new browser plugin interface and firefox.

http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com/squeak.html

I added three new features. One is SqueakDebug setting in the VM and browser plugin to enable you to print some diagnostics messages for the browser interface and module loading, I'll add more message in the future.

The second is a SqueakQuitOnQuitAppleEvent flag that is used to quit the VM immediately if we get the quit event, which happens when a user logs out. Likely this is the wrong choice, still for people doing vertical apps you need someone to prevent the VM from cancelling the logout process. MIT's Scratch will use this feature.

Finally I altered the logic when we look at the edit menu 'Quit do not save' If the application has used the VM's builtin feature to modify the mac menus then they might have changed the menu item from 'Quit do not save' to perform Foobar.

3.8.15b5 squeakBrowser-info.plist add SqueakDebug parm (1) debug msgs, (0) no debug msgs
	npsqueak.c		streamline context usage a bit, make local var versus  
on structure add logic to print msgs based on info.plist
	sqMacMain.c		Add SqueakDebug parm (1) debug msgs, (0) no debug msgs
					debug messages for browser interface, and module loading
					Add SqueakQuitOnQuitAppleEvent, true if we should quit  
immediately if operating system sends us quit msg, as a result of logout. Normally false.
	sqMacUIAppleEvents.c	If you logout we get a quit apple event msg,  
normally we ignore, unless SqueakQuitOnQuitAppleEvent is set.
	sqMacUIEventsUniversal.c  If the user picks edit menu, item one,  
actually check to see if the string is "Quit do not save", if so then quit, otherwise pass revised menu choice to Smalltalk.
	sqMacUnixExternalPrims.c	Look to SqueakDebug for msg printing
sqMacWindowUniversal.c Look to SqueakDebug for msg printing, mind file does not print any msgs yet

--

=== John M. McIntosh johnmci@smalltalkconsulting.com Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com ======================================================================== ===

John M McIntosh

6:30 p.m.

Actually if you click on appeaarance and set the window or desktop color you'll see the colors in the color picker *are* the same. But what is going on here is that the application is calculating a Balloon 3D surface, however something is wrong somewhere so the surface colors aren't the same between the two platforms.

Someone would have to dig deeper to understand why the colors are not correct.

On Mar 27, 2007, at 8:55 AM, Bruce O'Neel wrote:

...

Hi,

There seems to be a small problem with yellow on intel macs only, with Squeak 3.8.15beta1U from the FTP site.

If you download http://earth.pckswarms.ch/ earthSwarms-1.0_Mac.dmg.gz and run it on a PPC system then the mountain peaks will be yellowish/brownish, but, on an intel mac the mountain peaks will be purblish/bluish. As you push the button labeled topography until it says cloud fraction, it's different yellows on a PPC but all white on an Intel mac.

The PPC behavior is the same as Linux and Windows.

Thanks very much for all your work on the Mac VM!

cheers

bruce

----- Message d'origine ----- De: John M McIntosh johnmci@smalltalkconsulting.com Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 16:32:23 -0800 Sujet: Mac Carbon VM 3.8.15b5 pending À: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak- dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org>

...
I've pushed out a 3.8.15b5 to address an error in the 3.8.15b4 VM with the new browser plugin interface and firefox.

http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com/squeak.html

I added three new features. One is SqueakDebug setting in the VM and browser plugin to enable you to print some diagnostics messages for the browser interface and module loading, I'll add more message in the future.

The second is a SqueakQuitOnQuitAppleEvent flag that is used to quit the VM immediately if we get the quit event, which happens when a user logs out. Likely this is the wrong choice, still for people doing vertical apps you need someone to prevent the VM from cancelling the logout process. MIT's Scratch will use this feature.

Finally I altered the logic when we look at the edit menu 'Quit do not save' If the application has used the VM's builtin feature to modify the mac menus then they might have changed the menu item from 'Quit do not save' to perform Foobar.

3.8.15b5 squeakBrowser-info.plist add SqueakDebug parm (1) debug msgs, (0) no debug msgs
	npsqueak.c		streamline context usage a bit, make local var versus
on structure add logic to print msgs based on info.plist
	sqMacMain.c		Add SqueakDebug parm (1) debug msgs, (0) no debug  
msgs debug messages for browser interface, and module loading Add SqueakQuitOnQuitAppleEvent, true if we should quit immediately if operating system sends us quit msg, as a result of logout. Normally false.
	sqMacUIAppleEvents.c	If you logout we get a quit apple event msg,
normally we ignore, unless SqueakQuitOnQuitAppleEvent is set.
	sqMacUIEventsUniversal.c  If the user picks edit menu, item one,
actually check to see if the string is "Quit do not save", if so then quit, otherwise pass revised menu choice to Smalltalk.
	sqMacUnixExternalPrims.c	Look to SqueakDebug for msg printing
sqMacWindowUniversal.c Look to SqueakDebug for msg printing, mind file does not print any msgs yet

--

===

John M. McIntosh johnmci@smalltalkconsulting.com Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http:// www.smalltalkconsulting.com ===================================================================== === ===

Bruce O'Neel

28 Mar 28 Mar

9:56 a.m.

Hi,

Yea, sorry, that was a horrible description of the glitch.

Yes, what I see is that only on B3D surfaces does yellow not show up. The colors normally are just perfect.

Thanks!

cheers

bruce

----- Message d'origine ----- De: John M McIntosh johnmci@smalltalkconsulting.com Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 09:30:12 -0700 Sujet: Re: Mac Carbon VM 3.8.15b5 pending À: "Bruce O'Neel" squeak@pckswarms.ch Cc: The general-purpose Squeak developers list squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org

...

Actually if you click on appeaarance and set the window or desktop color you'll see the colors in the color picker *are* the same. But what is going on here is that the application is calculating a Balloon 3D surface, however something is wrong somewhere so the surface colors aren't the same between the two platforms.

Someone would have to dig deeper to understand why the colors are not correct.

On Mar 27, 2007, at 8:55 AM, Bruce O'Neel wrote:

...
Hi,

There seems to be a small problem with yellow on intel macs only, with Squeak 3.8.15beta1U from the FTP site.

If you download http://earth.pckswarms.ch/ earthSwarms-1.0_Mac.dmg.gz and run it on a PPC system then the mountain peaks will be yellowish/brownish, but, on an intel mac the mountain peaks will be purblish/bluish. As you push the button labeled topography until it says cloud fraction, it's different yellows on a PPC but all white on an Intel mac.

The PPC behavior is the same as Linux and Windows.

Thanks very much for all your work on the Mac VM!

cheers

bruce

----- Message d'origine ----- De: John M McIntosh johnmci@smalltalkconsulting.com Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 16:32:23 -0800 Sujet: Mac Carbon VM 3.8.15b5 pending À: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak- dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org>

...
I've pushed out a 3.8.15b5 to address an error in the 3.8.15b4 VM with the new browser plugin interface and firefox.

http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com/squeak.html

I added three new features. One is SqueakDebug setting in the VM and browser plugin to enable you to print some diagnostics messages for the browser interface and module loading, I'll add more message in the future.

The second is a SqueakQuitOnQuitAppleEvent flag that is used to quit the VM immediately if we get the quit event, which happens when a user logs out. Likely this is the wrong choice, still for people doing vertical apps you need someone to prevent the VM from cancelling the logout process. MIT's Scratch will use this feature.

Finally I altered the logic when we look at the edit menu 'Quit do not save' If the application has used the VM's builtin feature to modify the mac menus then they might have changed the menu item from 'Quit do not save' to perform Foobar.

3.8.15b5 squeakBrowser-info.plist add SqueakDebug parm (1) debug msgs, (0) no debug msgs
	npsqueak.c		streamline context usage a bit, make local var versus
on structure add logic to print msgs based on info.plist
	sqMacMain.c		Add SqueakDebug parm (1) debug msgs, (0) no debug  
msgs debug messages for browser interface, and module loading Add SqueakQuitOnQuitAppleEvent, true if we should quit immediately if operating system sends us quit msg, as a result of logout. Normally false.
	sqMacUIAppleEvents.c	If you logout we get a quit apple event msg,
normally we ignore, unless SqueakQuitOnQuitAppleEvent is set.
	sqMacUIEventsUniversal.c  If the user picks edit menu, item one,
actually check to see if the string is "Quit do not save", if so then quit, otherwise pass revised menu choice to Smalltalk.
	sqMacUnixExternalPrims.c	Look to SqueakDebug for msg printing
sqMacWindowUniversal.c Look to SqueakDebug for msg printing, mind file does not print any msgs yet

--

===

John M. McIntosh johnmci@smalltalkconsulting.com Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http:// www.smalltalkconsulting.com ===================================================================== === ===
--

=== John M. McIntosh johnmci@smalltalkconsulting.com Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com ======================================================================== ===

Bert Freudenberg

10 a.m.

That may well be not a VM problem.

- Bert -

On Mar 28, 2007, at 9:56 , Bruce O'Neel wrote:

...

Hi,

Yea, sorry, that was a horrible description of the glitch.

Yes, what I see is that only on B3D surfaces does yellow not show up. The colors normally are just perfect.

Thanks!

cheers

bruce

----- Message d'origine ----- De: John M McIntosh johnmci@smalltalkconsulting.com Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 09:30:12 -0700 Sujet: Re: Mac Carbon VM 3.8.15b5 pending À: "Bruce O'Neel" squeak@pckswarms.ch Cc: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak- dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org>

...
Actually if you click on appeaarance and set the window or desktop color you'll see the colors in the color picker *are* the same. But what is going on here is that the application is calculating a Balloon 3D surface, however something is wrong somewhere so the surface colors aren't the same between the two platforms.

Someone would have to dig deeper to understand why the colors are not correct.

On Mar 27, 2007, at 8:55 AM, Bruce O'Neel wrote:

...
Hi,

There seems to be a small problem with yellow on intel macs only, with Squeak 3.8.15beta1U from the FTP site.

If you download http://earth.pckswarms.ch/ earthSwarms-1.0_Mac.dmg.gz and run it on a PPC system then the mountain peaks will be yellowish/brownish, but, on an intel mac the mountain peaks will be purblish/bluish. As you push the button labeled topography until it says cloud fraction, it's different yellows on a PPC but all white on an Intel mac.

The PPC behavior is the same as Linux and Windows.

Thanks very much for all your work on the Mac VM!

cheers

bruce

----- Message d'origine ----- De: John M McIntosh johnmci@smalltalkconsulting.com Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 16:32:23 -0800 Sujet: Mac Carbon VM 3.8.15b5 pending À: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak- dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org>

...
I've pushed out a 3.8.15b5 to address an error in the 3.8.15b4 VM with the new browser plugin interface and firefox.

http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com/squeak.html

I added three new features. One is SqueakDebug setting in the VM and browser plugin to enable you to print some diagnostics messages for the browser interface and module loading, I'll add more message in the future.

The second is a SqueakQuitOnQuitAppleEvent flag that is used to quit the VM immediately if we get the quit event, which happens when a user logs out. Likely this is the wrong choice, still for people doing vertical apps you need someone to prevent the VM from cancelling the logout process. MIT's Scratch will use this feature.

Finally I altered the logic when we look at the edit menu 'Quit do not save' If the application has used the VM's builtin feature to modify the mac menus then they might have changed the menu item from 'Quit do not save' to perform Foobar.

3.8.15b5 squeakBrowser-info.plist add SqueakDebug parm (1) debug msgs, (0) no debug msgs
	npsqueak.c		streamline context usage a bit, make local var  
versus on structure add logic to print msgs based on info.plist
	sqMacMain.c		Add SqueakDebug parm (1) debug msgs, (0) no debug
msgs debug messages for browser interface, and module loading Add SqueakQuitOnQuitAppleEvent, true if we should quit immediately if operating system sends us quit msg, as a result of logout. Normally false.
	sqMacUIAppleEvents.c	If you logout we get a quit apple event  
msg, normally we ignore, unless SqueakQuitOnQuitAppleEvent is set.
	sqMacUIEventsUniversal.c  If the user picks edit menu, item one,
actually check to see if the string is "Quit do not save", if so then quit, otherwise pass revised menu choice to Smalltalk.
	sqMacUnixExternalPrims.c	Look to SqueakDebug for msg printing
sqMacWindowUniversal.c Look to SqueakDebug for msg printing, mind file does not print any msgs yet

--

==

=== John M. McIntosh johnmci@smalltalkconsulting.com Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http:// www.smalltalkconsulting.com =================================================================== == === ===
--

===

John M. McIntosh johnmci@smalltalkconsulting.com Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http:// www.smalltalkconsulting.com ===================================================================== === ===

Bruce O'Neel

11:13 a.m.

Hi,

The only reason why I suspect a VM problem is that Windows, OpenBSD big endian, Linux little endian, Mac PPC and Mac Intel running the PPC VM all get the same display. The only one which is different is the Mac Intel running the universal binary.

Is it possible that the problem is in Squeak3D/b3dTypes.h?

/* An ugly hack but I can't find the global defs in CodeWarrior on the Mac */ #ifndef LSB_FIRST #define MSB_FIRST #endif

#ifndef MSB_FIRST #define RED_INDEX 0 #define GREEN_INDEX 1 #define BLUE_INDEX 2 #define ALPHA_INDEX 3 #else #define ALPHA_INDEX 0 #define BLUE_INDEX 1 #define GREEN_INDEX 2 #define RED_INDEX 3 #endif

Though, that said, I'm not sure.

I'll try to borrow the MacBook again in the next day or so to see if I can run enough experiements to find the problem. I get the old PPC laptop, which, I prefer, but it's hard to test.

Thanks!

cheers

bruce

----- Message d'origine ----- De: Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 10:00:54 +0200 Sujet: Re: Mac Carbon VM 3.8.15b5 pending À: The general-purpose Squeak developers list squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org Cc: johnmci@smalltalkconsulting.com

...

That may well be not a VM problem.

Bert -

On Mar 28, 2007, at 9:56 , Bruce O'Neel wrote:

...
Hi,

Yea, sorry, that was a horrible description of the glitch.

Yes, what I see is that only on B3D surfaces does yellow not show up. The colors normally are just perfect.

Thanks!

cheers

bruce

----- Message d'origine ----- De: John M McIntosh johnmci@smalltalkconsulting.com Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 09:30:12 -0700 Sujet: Re: Mac Carbon VM 3.8.15b5 pending À: "Bruce O'Neel" squeak@pckswarms.ch Cc: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak- dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org>

...
Actually if you click on appeaarance and set the window or desktop color you'll see the colors in the color picker *are* the same. But what is going on here is that the application is calculating a Balloon 3D surface, however something is wrong somewhere so the surface colors aren't the same between the two platforms.

Someone would have to dig deeper to understand why the colors are not correct.

On Mar 27, 2007, at 8:55 AM, Bruce O'Neel wrote:

...
Hi,

There seems to be a small problem with yellow on intel macs only, with Squeak 3.8.15beta1U from the FTP site.

If you download http://earth.pckswarms.ch/ earthSwarms-1.0_Mac.dmg.gz and run it on a PPC system then the mountain peaks will be yellowish/brownish, but, on an intel mac the mountain peaks will be purblish/bluish. As you push the button labeled topography until it says cloud fraction, it's different yellows on a PPC but all white on an Intel mac.

The PPC behavior is the same as Linux and Windows.

Thanks very much for all your work on the Mac VM!

cheers

bruce

----- Message d'origine ----- De: John M McIntosh johnmci@smalltalkconsulting.com Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 16:32:23 -0800 Sujet: Mac Carbon VM 3.8.15b5 pending À: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak- dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org>

...
I've pushed out a 3.8.15b5 to address an error in the 3.8.15b4 VM with the new browser plugin interface and firefox.

http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com/squeak.html

I added three new features. One is SqueakDebug setting in the VM and browser plugin to enable you to print some diagnostics messages for the browser interface and module loading, I'll add more message in the future.

The second is a SqueakQuitOnQuitAppleEvent flag that is used to quit the VM immediately if we get the quit event, which happens when a user logs out. Likely this is the wrong choice, still for people doing vertical apps you need someone to prevent the VM from cancelling the logout process. MIT's Scratch will use this feature.

Finally I altered the logic when we look at the edit menu 'Quit do not save' If the application has used the VM's builtin feature to modify the mac menus then they might have changed the menu item from 'Quit do not save' to perform Foobar.

3.8.15b5 squeakBrowser-info.plist add SqueakDebug parm (1) debug msgs, (0) no debug msgs
	npsqueak.c		streamline context usage a bit, make local var  
versus on structure add logic to print msgs based on info.plist
	sqMacMain.c		Add SqueakDebug parm (1) debug msgs, (0) no debug
msgs debug messages for browser interface, and module loading Add SqueakQuitOnQuitAppleEvent, true if we should quit immediately if operating system sends us quit msg, as a result of logout. Normally false.
	sqMacUIAppleEvents.c	If you logout we get a quit apple event  
msg, normally we ignore, unless SqueakQuitOnQuitAppleEvent is set.
	sqMacUIEventsUniversal.c  If the user picks edit menu, item one,
actually check to see if the string is "Quit do not save", if so then quit, otherwise pass revised menu choice to Smalltalk.
	sqMacUnixExternalPrims.c	Look to SqueakDebug for msg printing
sqMacWindowUniversal.c Look to SqueakDebug for msg printing, mind file does not print any msgs yet

--

==

=== John M. McIntosh johnmci@smalltalkconsulting.com Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http:// www.smalltalkconsulting.com =================================================================== == === ===
--

===

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tim Rowledge

5:25 p.m.

...

#ifndef MSB_FIRST #define RED_INDEX 0 #define GREEN_INDEX 1 #define BLUE_INDEX 2 #define ALPHA_INDEX 3 #else #define ALPHA_INDEX 0 #define BLUE_INDEX 1 #define GREEN_INDEX 2 #define RED_INDEX 3 #endif

That's not a particularly sensible bit of code. Not all systems mix the r,g,b,a in the same order. Some probably don't support 'a'.

tim -- tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Strange OpCodes: ESC: Emulate Small Child

John M McIntosh

9:02 p.m.

On Mar 28, 2007, at 2:13 AM, Bruce O'Neel wrote:

...

Hi,

The only reason why I suspect a VM problem is that Windows, OpenBSD big endian, Linux little endian, Mac PPC and Mac Intel running the PPC VM all get the same display. The only one which is different is the Mac Intel running the universal binary.

Is it possible that the problem is in Squeak3D/b3dTypes.h?

/* An ugly hack but I can't find the global defs in CodeWarrior on the Mac */ #ifndef LSB_FIRST #define MSB_FIRST #endif

Ah, well an interesting question then would be what is LSB_FIRST, who defines it, where does it come from, what value should it have? Why does it work on other platform compiles, and yes CodeWarrior likely has been dead 10 years now... (well maybe less)

Bruce O'Neel

29 Mar 29 Mar

11:37 a.m.

Hi,

On the unix/linux build it seems to be defined by configure. From the Makefile you have a line:

CFLAGS= -g -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -DLSB_FIRST=1

This on an x86 linux system. On a Solaris SPARC system -DLSB_FIRST is not there.

cheers

bruce

----- Message d'origine ----- De: John M McIntosh johnmci@smalltalkconsulting.com Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 12:02:08 -0700 Sujet: Re: Mac Carbon VM 3.8.15b5 pending À: "Bruce O'Neel" squeak@pckswarms.ch Cc: The general-purpose Squeak developers list squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org

...

On Mar 28, 2007, at 2:13 AM, Bruce O'Neel wrote:

...
Hi,

The only reason why I suspect a VM problem is that Windows, OpenBSD big endian, Linux little endian, Mac PPC and Mac Intel running the PPC VM all get the same display. The only one which is different is the Mac Intel running the universal binary.

Is it possible that the problem is in Squeak3D/b3dTypes.h?

/* An ugly hack but I can't find the global defs in CodeWarrior on the Mac */ #ifndef LSB_FIRST #define MSB_FIRST #endif

Ah, well an interesting question then would be what is LSB_FIRST, who defines it, where does it come from, what value should it have? Why does it work on other platform compiles, and yes CodeWarrior likely has been dead 10 years now... (well maybe less)

--

=== John M. McIntosh johnmci@smalltalkconsulting.com Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com ======================================================================== ===

John M McIntosh

30 Mar 30 Mar

8:59 p.m.

Ok, in my idisk experimental folder try

Squeak 3.8.16beta5U.app

That contains the recompiled macintel vm that should show colors properly for Squeak3D surfaces

On Mar 29, 2007, at 2:37 AM, Bruce O'Neel wrote:

...

-DLSB_FIRST=1

Bruce O'Neel

2 Apr 2 Apr

9:10 a.m.

Thank you Thank you Thank you!

It works perfectly.

Just out of interest, was my guess correct or was it something completely unrelated?

Thanks!

cheers

bruce

----- Message d'origine ----- De: John M McIntosh johnmci@smalltalkconsulting.com Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:59:48 -0700 Sujet: Re: Mac Carbon VM 3.8.15b5 pending À: "Bruce O'Neel" squeak@pckswarms.ch Cc: The general-purpose Squeak developers list squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org

...

Ok, in my idisk experimental folder try

Squeak 3.8.16beta5U.app

That contains the recompiled macintel vm that should show colors properly for Squeak3D surfaces

On Mar 29, 2007, at 2:37 AM, Bruce O'Neel wrote:

...
-DLSB_FIRST=1

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John M McIntosh

4:01 p.m.

Yes, needed the -DLSB_FIRST=1 for macintel compile so the byte ordering was correct.

On Apr 2, 2007, at 12:10 AM, Bruce O'Neel wrote:

...

Thank you Thank you Thank you!

It works perfectly.

Just out of interest, was my guess correct or was it something completely unrelated?

Thanks!

cheers

bruce

----- Message d'origine ----- De: John M McIntosh johnmci@smalltalkconsulting.com Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:59:48 -0700 Sujet: Re: Mac Carbon VM 3.8.15b5 pending À: "Bruce O'Neel" squeak@pckswarms.ch Cc: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak- dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org>

...
Ok, in my idisk experimental folder try

Squeak 3.8.16beta5U.app

That contains the recompiled macintel vm that should show colors properly for Squeak3D surfaces

On Mar 29, 2007, at 2:37 AM, Bruce O'Neel wrote:

...
-DLSB_FIRST=1

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Bert Freudenberg
Bruce O'Neel
John M McIntosh
tim Rowledge