Hi,
I wanted to experiment with sharing a Project across images.
I did World menu->open->morphic project. (I can enter it and return, or not enter it at all, and it has no effect on what I'm reporting here.)
I then menu-clicked inside the project's thumbnail and chose "see if server version is more recent."
This brings up a chooser dialog and makes the project thumbnail morph disappear.
Desired behavior: Seems like when the chooser dialog appears, the thumbnail morph shouldn't disappear.
(The project still appears in the Projects menu on the docking bar.)
I don't know if there's any way to get the thumbnail back...
I can file a bug in Mantis if desired.
Thanks, Tim J
Hi Tim,
that behavior has been around for quite some time now. I traced it back to at least Squeak 4.0. Yes, the desired behavior you described is reasonable. We should fix that. :-)
Best, Marcel
Tim Johnson-2 wrote
Hi,
I wanted to experiment with sharing a Project across images.
I did World menu->open->morphic project. (I can enter it and return, or not enter it at all, and it has no effect on what I'm reporting here.)
I then menu-clicked inside the project's thumbnail and chose "see if server version is more recent."
This brings up a chooser dialog and makes the project thumbnail morph disappear.
Desired behavior: Seems like when the chooser dialog appears, the thumbnail morph shouldn't disappear.
(The project still appears in the Projects menu on the docking bar.)
I don't know if there's any way to get the thumbnail back...
I can file a bug in Mantis if desired.
Thanks, Tim J
-- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Squeak-Dev-f45488.html
As I have tons of old images, the last one which do not show this trouble is Squeak 3.6 latest update 5424 ,so the cure is revert to this.
Edgar @morplenauta
On 02/12/2018, 08:06, "marcel.taeumel" Marcel.Taeumel@hpi.de wrote:
Hi Tim,
that behavior has been around for quite some time now. I traced it
back to
at least Squeak 4.0. Yes, the desired behavior you described is
reasonable.
We should fix that. :-)
Best, Marcel
Tim Johnson-2 wrote
Hi,
I wanted to experiment with sharing a Project across images.
I did World menu->open->morphic project. (I can enter it and return, or not enter it at all, and it has no effect on what I'm reporting here.)
I then menu-clicked inside the project's thumbnail and chose "see if server version is more recent."
This brings up a chooser dialog and makes the project thumbnail morph disappear.
Desired behavior: Seems like when the chooser dialog appears, the thumbnail morph shouldn't disappear.
(The project still appears in the Projects menu on the docking bar.)
I don't know if there's any way to get the thumbnail back...
I can file a bug in Mantis if desired.
Thanks, Tim J
-- Sent from:
On a side note -- another way to share a single Project instance across images is to put it into a Magma database. Since its early days, Magma has code specifically to support Projects, allowing multiple clients to view and use the Project simultaneously. A client can save updates to the Project by sending the message #commit (to the Session object connected to the DB in which the Project resides), after which other clients may send #refresh to instantly see those updates. On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 1:58 PM Tim Johnson digit@sonic.net wrote:
Hi,
I wanted to experiment with sharing a Project across images.
I did World menu->open->morphic project. (I can enter it and return, or not enter it at all, and it has no effect on what I'm reporting here.)
I then menu-clicked inside the project's thumbnail and chose "see if server version is more recent."
This brings up a chooser dialog and makes the project thumbnail morph disappear.
Desired behavior: Seems like when the chooser dialog appears, the thumbnail morph shouldn't disappear.
(The project still appears in the Projects menu on the docking bar.)
I don't know if there's any way to get the thumbnail back...
I can file a bug in Mantis if desired.
Thanks, Tim J
Hi, You can explore ProjectHistory currentHistory mostRecentCopy.
Find and select the project that is missing a window. ProjectViewMorph openOn: self DoIt the code pane.
I'm not sure why the morph dissaprears
Best, Karl
On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 8:58 PM Tim Johnson digit@sonic.net wrote:
Hi,
I wanted to experiment with sharing a Project across images.
I did World menu->open->morphic project. (I can enter it and return, or not enter it at all, and it has no effect on what I'm reporting here.)
I then menu-clicked inside the project's thumbnail and chose "see if server version is more recent."
This brings up a chooser dialog and makes the project thumbnail morph disappear.
Desired behavior: Seems like when the chooser dialog appears, the thumbnail morph shouldn't disappear.
(The project still appears in the Projects menu on the docking bar.)
I don't know if there's any way to get the thumbnail back...
I can file a bug in Mantis if desired.
Thanks, Tim J
On 28/11/18 1:28 AM, Tim Johnson wrote:
I did World menu->open->morphic project. (I can enter it and return, or not enter it at all, and it has no effect on what I'm reporting here.)
I then menu-clicked inside the project's thumbnail and chose "see if server version is more recent."
This brings up a chooser dialog and makes the project thumbnail morph disappear.
The project view morph is enclosed in a system window which gets hidden while displaying a progress dialog to check on server. If the dialog is dismissed, it continues to stay hidden :-(. I suspect this is because
ProjectViewMorph>>checkForNewerVersionAndLoad self withProgressDo: [ project loadFromServer ]
loadFromServer displays a progress bar when required, so I wonder why withProgressDo: is required again. If I remove this check and change to
project loadFromServer
then the problem gets solved. I don't know enough about project loading to confirm if this is indeed the correct solution.
Regards .. Subbu
The problem does not happen when ProjectViewInWindow preference is false.
In ComplexProgressIndicator>>withProgressDo: Comment out targetOwner ifNotNil: [targetOwner hide].
I'm not sure why the owner of the ProjectViewMorph should ever hide here. There could be some edge case I'm not aware of.
If nobody see an issue with this I'll make a change and push to trunk
Cheers, Karl
On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 8:47 AM K K Subbu kksubbu.ml@gmail.com wrote:
On 28/11/18 1:28 AM, Tim Johnson wrote:
I did World menu->open->morphic project. (I can enter it and return, or not enter it at all, and it has no effect on what I'm reporting here.)
I then menu-clicked inside the project's thumbnail and chose "see if server version is more recent."
This brings up a chooser dialog and makes the project thumbnail morph disappear.
The project view morph is enclosed in a system window which gets hidden while displaying a progress dialog to check on server. If the dialog is dismissed, it continues to stay hidden :-(. I suspect this is because
ProjectViewMorph>>checkForNewerVersionAndLoad self withProgressDo: [ project loadFromServer ]
loadFromServer displays a progress bar when required, so I wonder why withProgressDo: is required again. If I remove this check and change to
project loadFromServerthen the problem gets solved. I don't know enough about project loading to confirm if this is indeed the correct solution.
Regards .. Subbu
There is also a targetMorph show later on in the method that has to be removed.
I doubt whether the preference has anything to do with the bug.
While loading from the server, the system window (or the thumbnail) is hidden and a translucent morph is placed over its bounds. When the loading is complete, the steps are reversed. I suppose this is to indicate that the thumbnail could change when a new version is loaded.
This is holiday season so feedback may be slow in coming. In any case, you could post a fix to the Inbox to trigger discussions.
Regards .. Subbu
On 06/12/18 3:25 AM, karl ramberg wrote:
The problem does not happen when ProjectViewInWindow preference is false.
In ComplexProgressIndicator>>withProgressDo: Comment out targetOwner ifNotNil: [targetOwner hide].
I'm not sure why the owner of the ProjectViewMorph should ever hide here. There could be some edge case I'm not aware of.
If nobody see an issue with this I'll make a change and push to trunk
Cheers, Karl
On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 8:47 AM K K Subbu <kksubbu.ml@gmail.com mailto:kksubbu.ml@gmail.com> wrote:
On 28/11/18 1:28 AM, Tim Johnson wrote: > > I did World menu->open->morphic project. (I can enter it and return, or > not enter it at all, and it has no effect on what I'm reporting here.) > > I then menu-clicked inside the project's thumbnail and chose "see if > server version is more recent." > > This brings up a chooser dialog and makes the project thumbnail morph > disappear. The project view morph is enclosed in a system window which gets hidden while displaying a progress dialog to check on server. If the dialog is dismissed, it continues to stay hidden :-(. I suspect this is because ProjectViewMorph>>checkForNewerVersionAndLoad self withProgressDo: [ project loadFromServer ] loadFromServer displays a progress bar when required, so I wonder why withProgressDo: is required again. If I remove this check and change to project loadFromServer then the problem gets solved. I don't know enough about project loading to confirm if this is indeed the correct solution. Regards .. Subbu
The preference triggers the error because ProjectViewMorph has the SystemWindow as a owner and then it gets hidden when the targetOwner is hidden. I have to look at the other users of this method to understand why the owner should be hidden. Nothing obvious comes to mind.
Best, Karl
On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 6:25 AM K K Subbu kksubbu.ml@gmail.com wrote:
There is also a targetMorph show later on in the method that has to be removed.
I doubt whether the preference has anything to do with the bug.
While loading from the server, the system window (or the thumbnail) is hidden and a translucent morph is placed over its bounds. When the loading is complete, the steps are reversed. I suppose this is to indicate that the thumbnail could change when a new version is loaded.
This is holiday season so feedback may be slow in coming. In any case, you could post a fix to the Inbox to trigger discussions.
Regards .. Subbu
On 06/12/18 3:25 AM, karl ramberg wrote:
The problem does not happen when ProjectViewInWindow preference is false.
In ComplexProgressIndicator>>withProgressDo: Comment out targetOwner ifNotNil: [targetOwner hide].
I'm not sure why the owner of the ProjectViewMorph should ever hide here. There could be some edge case I'm not aware of.
If nobody see an issue with this I'll make a change and push to trunk
Cheers, Karl
On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 8:47 AM K K Subbu <kksubbu.ml@gmail.com mailto:kksubbu.ml@gmail.com> wrote:
On 28/11/18 1:28 AM, Tim Johnson wrote: > > I did World menu->open->morphic project. (I can enter it and return, or > not enter it at all, and it has no effect on what I'm reporting here.) > > I then menu-clicked inside the project's thumbnail and chose "seeif
> server version is more recent." > > This brings up a chooser dialog and makes the project thumbnail morph > disappear. The project view morph is enclosed in a system window which getshidden
while displaying a progress dialog to check on server. If the dialogis
dismissed, it continues to stay hidden :-(. I suspect this is because ProjectViewMorph>>checkForNewerVersionAndLoad self withProgressDo: [ project loadFromServer ] loadFromServer displays a progress bar when required, so I wonder why withProgressDo: is required again. If I remove this check and changeto
project loadFromServer then the problem gets solved. I don't know enough about projectloading
to confirm if this is indeed the correct solution. Regards .. Subbu
targetOwner is not set in the "targetMorph ifNil:" part of the branch but is used after this test. Will this be an issue?
Regards .. Subbu
On 06/12/18 11:06 PM, karl ramberg wrote:
The preference triggers the error because ProjectViewMorph has the SystemWindow as a owner and then it gets hidden when the targetOwner is hidden. I have to look at the other users of this method to understand why the owner should be hidden. Nothing obvious comes to mind.
Best, Karl
On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 6:25 AM K K Subbu <kksubbu.ml@gmail.com mailto:kksubbu.ml@gmail.com> wrote:
There is also a targetMorph show later on in the method that has to be removed. I doubt whether the preference has anything to do with the bug. While loading from the server, the system window (or the thumbnail) is hidden and a translucent morph is placed over its bounds. When the loading is complete, the steps are reversed. I suppose this is to indicate that the thumbnail could change when a new version is loaded. This is holiday season so feedback may be slow in coming. In any case, you could post a fix to the Inbox to trigger discussions. Regards .. Subbu On 06/12/18 3:25 AM, karl ramberg wrote: > The problem does not happen when ProjectViewInWindow preference is false. > > In ComplexProgressIndicator>>withProgressDo: > Comment out > targetOwner ifNotNil: [targetOwner hide]. > > I'm not sure why the owner of the ProjectViewMorph should ever hide here. > There could be some edge case I'm not aware of. > > If nobody see an issue with this I'll make a change and push to trunk > > Cheers, > Karl > > > On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 8:47 AM K K Subbu <kksubbu.ml@gmail.com <mailto:kksubbu.ml@gmail.com> > <mailto:kksubbu.ml@gmail.com <mailto:kksubbu.ml@gmail.com>>> wrote: > > On 28/11/18 1:28 AM, Tim Johnson wrote: > > > > I did World menu->open->morphic project. (I can enter it and > return, or > > not enter it at all, and it has no effect on what I'm reporting > here.) > > > > I then menu-clicked inside the project's thumbnail and chose "see if > > server version is more recent." > > > > This brings up a chooser dialog and makes the project thumbnail > morph > > disappear. > > The project view morph is enclosed in a system window which gets hidden > while displaying a progress dialog to check on server. If the dialog is > dismissed, it continues to stay hidden :-(. I suspect this is because > > ProjectViewMorph>>checkForNewerVersionAndLoad > self withProgressDo: [ > project loadFromServer > ] > > loadFromServer displays a progress bar when required, so I wonder why > withProgressDo: is required again. If I remove this check and change to > > project loadFromServer > > then the problem gets solved. I don't know enough about project loading > to confirm if this is indeed the correct solution. > > Regards .. Subbu > > >
No, targetOwner can be either nil or some morph in this method. It's not a problem to send 'show' to a morph that is already visible.
Best, Karl
On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 12:54 PM K K Subbu kksubbu.ml@gmail.com wrote:
targetOwner is not set in the "targetMorph ifNil:" part of the branch but is used after this test. Will this be an issue?
Regards .. Subbu
On 06/12/18 11:06 PM, karl ramberg wrote:
The preference triggers the error because ProjectViewMorph has the SystemWindow as a owner and then it gets hidden when the targetOwner is hidden. I have to look at the other users of this method to understand why the owner should be hidden. Nothing obvious comes to mind.
Best, Karl
On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 6:25 AM K K Subbu <kksubbu.ml@gmail.com mailto:kksubbu.ml@gmail.com> wrote:
There is also a targetMorph show later on in the method that has tobe
removed. I doubt whether the preference has anything to do with the bug. While loading from the server, the system window (or the thumbnail)is
hidden and a translucent morph is placed over its bounds. When the loading is complete, the steps are reversed. I suppose this is to indicate that the thumbnail could change when a new version isloaded.
This is holiday season so feedback may be slow in coming. In anycase,
you could post a fix to the Inbox to trigger discussions. Regards .. Subbu On 06/12/18 3:25 AM, karl ramberg wrote: > The problem does not happen when ProjectViewInWindow preference is false. > > In ComplexProgressIndicator>>withProgressDo: > Comment out > targetOwner ifNotNil: [targetOwner hide]. > > I'm not sure why the owner of the ProjectViewMorph should ever hide here. > There could be some edge case I'm not aware of. > > If nobody see an issue with this I'll make a change and push totrunk
> > Cheers, > Karl > > > On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 8:47 AM K K Subbu <kksubbu.ml@gmail.com <mailto:kksubbu.ml@gmail.com> > <mailto:kksubbu.ml@gmail.com <mailto:kksubbu.ml@gmail.com>>>wrote:
> > On 28/11/18 1:28 AM, Tim Johnson wrote: > > > > I did World menu->open->morphic project. (I can enter itand
> return, or > > not enter it at all, and it has no effect on what I'm reporting > here.) > > > > I then menu-clicked inside the project's thumbnail and chose "see if > > server version is more recent." > > > > This brings up a chooser dialog and makes the project thumbnail > morph > > disappear. > > The project view morph is enclosed in a system window which gets hidden > while displaying a progress dialog to check on server. If the dialog is > dismissed, it continues to stay hidden :-(. I suspect this is because > > ProjectViewMorph>>checkForNewerVersionAndLoad > self withProgressDo: [ > project loadFromServer > ] > > loadFromServer displays a progress bar when required, so I wonder why > withProgressDo: is required again. If I remove this check and change to > > project loadFromServer > > then the problem gets solved. I don't know enough about project loading > to confirm if this is indeed the correct solution. > > Regards .. Subbu > > >
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