Thanks for the prompt replies. They have helped some already, and will likely help more as I continue to digest the content.
Subbu mentioned packages. I am not above that, but want to be able to do a good job of installing the latest. If I can turn the archives into packages and load them, that would be fine by me. Any pointers?
I am not in any rush. This is all part of a gradual move away from dependence on Windows. Whether or not I exercise the resulting options is a separate line of thought. For now, I am simply doing my homework with Linux (typing this into Firefox on Ubuntu) and Smalltalks thereon. To be intellectually honest, I have to think about how I would do everything w/o running back to Redmond when the going gets tough. That includes installing hot fixes to any development systems I might use.
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029
I'm in the same boat as Bill (right now I'm typing this in Puppy Linux running via kqemu on Win2K; trying to get a Squeaky Puppy ;-) ) and this thread has helped my understanding as well.
On 7/20/07, Bill Schwab BSchwab@anest.ufl.edu wrote:
Thanks for the prompt replies. They have helped some already, and will likely help more as I continue to digest the content.
Subbu mentioned packages. I am not above that, but want to be able to do a good job of installing the latest. If I can turn the archives into packages and load them, that would be fine by me. Any pointers?
I am not in any rush. This is all part of a gradual move away from dependence on Windows. Whether or not I exercise the resulting options is a separate line of thought. For now, I am simply doing my homework with Linux (typing this into Firefox on Ubuntu) and Smalltalks thereon. To be intellectually honest, I have to think about how I would do everything w/o running back to Redmond when the going gets tough. That includes installing hot fixes to any development systems I might use.
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029
On Friday 20 July 2007 7:06 pm, Bill Schwab wrote:
Subbu mentioned packages. I am not above that, but want to be able to do a good job of installing the latest. If I can turn the archives into packages and load them, that would be fine by me. Any pointers?
If you wish to build your own deb from a tar.gz, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51003
Jens maintains the latest stable debs at: http://www.impara.de/~jens/ubuntu
Apart from installing them into standard locations (which require root permission), you could also extract the files from the deb archive into your own home locations (see -x option of dpkg(1)) to check them out.
Hope this helps .. Subbu
"Bill Schwab" BSchwab@anest.ufl.edu writes:
I am not in any rush. This is all part of a gradual move away from dependence on Windows. Whether or not I exercise the resulting options is a separate line of thought. For now, I am simply doing my homework with Linux (typing this into Firefox on Ubuntu) and Smalltalks thereon.
If you are on Ubuntu, then you should use the pre-built Debian packages.
http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/3616
I have not tried them on Ubuntu, but I would think they would work. If the binaries do not, then surely you can rebuild them from source.
-Lex
Hi:
I've wroted a brief instructions about installing on Ubuntu, but are in Spanish, may be with some automatic translator are understandables.
See: http://germanarduino.blogspot.com/2006/10/instalacin-de-squeak-en-ubuntu.htm...
Cheers.
26 Jul 2007 21:15:04 +0200, Lex Spoon lex@lexspoon.org:
"Bill Schwab" BSchwab@anest.ufl.edu writes:
I am not in any rush. This is all part of a gradual move away from dependence on Windows. Whether or not I exercise the resulting options is a separate line of thought. For now, I am simply doing my homework with Linux (typing this into Firefox on Ubuntu) and Smalltalks thereon.
If you are on Ubuntu, then you should use the pre-built Debian packages.
http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/3616
I have not tried them on Ubuntu, but I would think they would work. If the binaries do not, then surely you can rebuild them from source.
-Lex
On 7/26/07, Germán Arduino garduino@gmail.com wrote:
Hi:
I've wroted a brief instructions about installing on Ubuntu, but are in Spanish, may be with some automatic translator are understandables.
See: http://germanarduino.blogspot.com/2006/10/instalacin-de-squeak-en-ubuntu.htm...
Cheers.
26 Jul 2007 21:15:04 +0200, Lex Spoon <lex@lexspoon.org >:
"Bill Schwab" <BSchwab@anest.ufl.edu > writes:
I am not in any rush. This is all part of a gradual move away from dependence on Windows. Whether or not I exercise the resulting
options
is a separate line of thought. For now, I am simply doing my homework
with Linux (typing this into Firefox on Ubuntu) and Smalltalks
thereon.
If you are on Ubuntu, then you should use the pre-built Debian packages.
http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/3616
I have not tried them on Ubuntu, but I would think they would work. If the binaries do not, then surely you can rebuild them from source.
-Lex
I use squeak on ubuntu (feisty fawn). Squeak is available via Synaptic in the administration menu. This will install the squeak vm and a 3.8 image, which you can update, or just grab a fresh image.
Shawn
El 7/26/07 7:48 PM, "Germán Arduino" garduino@gmail.com escribió:
Hi:
I've wroted a brief instructions about installing on Ubuntu, but are in Spanish, may be with some automatic translator are understandables.
See: http://germanarduino.blogspot.com/2006/10/instalacin-de-squeak-en-ubuntu.htm...
Cheers.
26 Jul 2007 21:15:04 +0200, Lex Spoon <lex@lexspoon.org mailto:lex@lexspoon.org >: "Bill Schwab" <BSchwab@anest.ufl.edu mailto:BSchwab@anest.ufl.edu > writes:
I am not in any rush. This is all part of a gradual move away from dependence on Windows. Whether or not I exercise the resulting options is a separate line of thought. For now, I am simply doing my homework with Linux (typing this into Firefox on Ubuntu) and Smalltalks thereon.
If you are on Ubuntu, then you should use the pre-built Debian packages.
http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/3616 http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/3616
I have not tried them on Ubuntu, but I would think they would work. If the binaries do not, then surely you can rebuild them from source.
-Lex
Very thanks German, very easy. Now I have a ubuntu ready for test 3.10. A question still remain. I have a mini Lan with Mac, Windows XP, Windows 98 and now Ubuntu system. When I transfer my 3.10beta7135 system to ubuntu, I put the files into the squeak folder created into home. When double click, Squeak start but complains about don't locate sources and give the Mac path of sources, as I first do all in Mac and then transfer the relevant info to other computers.
I need put SqueakV39.sources into other place ?
Thanks in advance
2007/7/27, Edgar J. De Cleene edgardec2001@yahoo.com.ar:
I need put SqueakV39.sources into other place ?
Try to put this file in the same place as the VM (/usr/local/lib/squeak/3.9-10/SqueakV39.sources on my computer).
Glad to hear that the instructions were useful to you!
About the sources you can try at the same directory of installation (/usr/lib/ in my case) or in the work directory (were you have the images), in my case /home/garduino/squeak. I've both sources here (V3 and V39).
HTH.
2007/7/27, Edgar J. De Cleene edgardec2001@yahoo.com.ar:
El 7/26/07 7:48 PM, "Germán Arduino" garduino@gmail.com escribió:
Hi:
I've wroted a brief instructions about installing on Ubuntu, but are in Spanish, may be with some automatic translator are understandables.
See:
http://germanarduino.blogspot.com/2006/10/instalacin-de-squeak-en-ubuntu.htm...
Cheers.
26 Jul 2007 21:15:04 +0200, Lex Spoon <lex@lexspoon.org mailto:lex@lexspoon.org >: "Bill Schwab" <BSchwab@anest.ufl.edu mailto:BSchwab@anest.ufl.edu >
writes:
I am not in any rush. This is all part of a gradual move away from dependence on Windows. Whether or not I exercise the resulting options is a separate line of thought. For now, I am simply doing my homework with Linux (typing this into Firefox on Ubuntu) and Smalltalks thereon.
If you are on Ubuntu, then you should use the pre-built Debian packages.
http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/3616%3E
I have not tried them on Ubuntu, but I would think they would work. If the binaries do not, then surely you can rebuild them from source.
-Lex
Very thanks German, very easy. Now I have a ubuntu ready for test 3.10. A question still remain. I have a mini Lan with Mac, Windows XP, Windows 98 and now Ubuntu system. When I transfer my 3.10beta7135 system to ubuntu, I put the files into the squeak folder created into home. When double click, Squeak start but complains about don't locate sources and give the Mac path of sources, as I first do all in Mac and then transfer the relevant info to other computers.
I need put SqueakV39.sources into other place ?
Thanks in advance
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