On 4/21/12, Bernhard Pieber bernhard@pieber.com wrote:
Am 21.04.2012 um 22:22 schrieb "phil@highoctane.be" phil@highoctane.be:
Yeah VM works on iOS.
Cool!
My use case is private, nothing fancy. I just value having decent TextEditor and friends.
For an OO thing like Smalltalk Pharo, it would be a shame to now have a top notch UI kit for editing text.
I totally agree. That's one reason why I started the Styled Text Editor project. ;-)
Great effort! Are there screen shots of the implementation available somewhere?
In which format does it save the files? RTF? HTML? Something else?
--Hannes
Cheers, Bernhard
I hope to be able to provide several decent samples so that newcomers don't have to go through the same pain as I go through now.
Phil
2012/4/21 Bernhard Pieber bernhard@pieber.com Thanks for the encouragement!
The necessary funding depends on the effort of course, and this in turn depends on the approach one uses for porting. We have an idea how to do the port to Pharo as an external package. Do you have a concrete use case in mind?
Cheers, Bernhard
P.S. Did you succeed building the Mac VM on Xcode 4.3 yet?
Am 21.04.2012 um 21:17 schrieb "phil@highoctane.be" phil@highoctane.be:
Great news!
I am currently busy looking after Text, TextAttributes, TextConstants, Paragraph... and god, it went through the grinder and it shows.
I understand the reasons that led to such things but Collections-Text is in need of improvement for sure.
How much funding would be necessary to get this port done?
Phil
2012/4/21 Bernhard Pieber bernhard@pieber.com Dear Smalltalkers,
I am very happy to announce that the Styled Text Editor for the brand new Cuis 4.0 is now available on GitHub [1]. The Styled Text Editor was first presented by me at last year's ESUG in Edinburgh [2]. Thanks to ESUG the presentation was recorded [3].
The Styled Text Editor is a framework for rich text editing using styles as known from popular word processors like Apple Pages or Microsoft Word. It features paragraph and character styles, allowing easy text formatting using styles only. It is intended for applications where users need to work with good looking rich text in a simple and fast way.
Rich text commonly refers to text with formatting information like different fonts, sizes, alignments, and emphasis. To make editing as simple as possible instead of individual formatting information end users apply styles to parts of the text. Editing is made fast by keyboard shortcuts for text navigation, selection, and styles selection. Where possible the feel of widely used rich text editors is supported.
It includes many features like
- numbered and bulleted list paragraph styles
- support for images
- multiple level undo and redo
- text completion using various glossaries including a dictionary of
English with about 166.000 words
- RTF clipboard (on OS X VMs with the ClipboardExtendedPlugin)
The Styled Text Editor is developed in Cuis with the plan to eventually port it to Squeak and Pharo. The development of the Styled Text Editor inspired many changes to Cuis itself, and It is the first package to use the brand new DVCS based development process for external packages for Cuis 4.0.
The idea and funding was provided by me, Bernhard Pieber and my company Software Generation. The implementation was done by Juan Vuletich, the mastermind behind Cuis. Thanks Juan for the close cooperation. It was and still is great fun to work with you.
We are looking forward to feedback from you. Fork it on GitHub [1], create issues and send us pull requests. ;-)
Cheers, Bernhard Pieber
[1] https://github.com/bpieber/Cuis-StyledTextEditor [2] http://www.esug.org/wiki/pier/Conferences/2011/Schedule-And-Talks/StyledText... [3] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUoVbvwspi8&list=PL813665D04A2E4C0A&i...
-- Philippe Back "Helping you hit the top 3 outcomes you really want to achieve"
Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: phil@highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu | Blog: http://philippeback.be
High Octane SPRL rue cour Boisacq 101 1301 Bierges
-- Philippe Back "Helping you hit the top 3 outcomes you really want to achieve"
Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: phil@highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu | Blog: http://philippeback.be
High Octane SPRL rue cour Boisacq 101 1301 Bierges
Quoting "H. Hirzel" hannes.hirzel@gmail.com:
On 4/21/12, Bernhard Pieber bernhard@pieber.com wrote:
Am 21.04.2012 um 22:22 schrieb "phil@highoctane.be" phil@highoctane.be:
Yeah VM works on iOS.
Cool!
My use case is private, nothing fancy. I just value having decent TextEditor and friends.
For an OO thing like Smalltalk Pharo, it would be a shame to now have a top notch UI kit for editing text.
I totally agree. That's one reason why I started the Styled Text Editor project. ;-)
Great effort! Are there screen shots of the implementation available somewhere?
We haven´t published any. I can do it in case you´re not able to run it...
In which format does it save the files? RTF? HTML? Something else?
Native format is SmartRefStream. The export to RTF is done and used for ExtendedClipboard (currently only supported on the 4 series Mac VM). It would be trivial to add support for saving RTF files, but RTF can not hold all the features StyledTextEditor supports, so it is better to use own format.
Cheers, Juan Vuletich
--Hannes
Cheers, Bernhard
I hope to be able to provide several decent samples so that newcomers don't have to go through the same pain as I go through now.
Phil
2012/4/21 Bernhard Pieber bernhard@pieber.com Thanks for the encouragement!
The necessary funding depends on the effort of course, and this in turn depends on the approach one uses for porting. We have an idea how to do the port to Pharo as an external package. Do you have a concrete use case in mind?
Cheers, Bernhard
P.S. Did you succeed building the Mac VM on Xcode 4.3 yet?
Am 21.04.2012 um 21:17 schrieb "phil@highoctane.be" phil@highoctane.be:
Great news!
I am currently busy looking after Text, TextAttributes, TextConstants, Paragraph... and god, it went through the grinder and it shows.
I understand the reasons that led to such things but Collections-Text is in need of improvement for sure.
How much funding would be necessary to get this port done?
Phil
2012/4/21 Bernhard Pieber bernhard@pieber.com Dear Smalltalkers,
I am very happy to announce that the Styled Text Editor for the brand new Cuis 4.0 is now available on GitHub [1]. The Styled Text Editor was first presented by me at last year's ESUG in Edinburgh [2]. Thanks to ESUG the presentation was recorded [3].
The Styled Text Editor is a framework for rich text editing using styles as known from popular word processors like Apple Pages or Microsoft Word. It features paragraph and character styles, allowing easy text formatting using styles only. It is intended for applications where users need to work with good looking rich text in a simple and fast way.
Rich text commonly refers to text with formatting information like different fonts, sizes, alignments, and emphasis. To make editing as simple as possible instead of individual formatting information end users apply styles to parts of the text. Editing is made fast by keyboard shortcuts for text navigation, selection, and styles selection. Where possible the feel of widely used rich text editors is supported.
It includes many features like
- numbered and bulleted list paragraph styles
- support for images
- multiple level undo and redo
- text completion using various glossaries including a dictionary of
English with about 166.000 words
- RTF clipboard (on OS X VMs with the ClipboardExtendedPlugin)
The Styled Text Editor is developed in Cuis with the plan to eventually port it to Squeak and Pharo. The development of the Styled Text Editor inspired many changes to Cuis itself, and It is the first package to use the brand new DVCS based development process for external packages for Cuis 4.0.
The idea and funding was provided by me, Bernhard Pieber and my company Software Generation. The implementation was done by Juan Vuletich, the mastermind behind Cuis. Thanks Juan for the close cooperation. It was and still is great fun to work with you.
We are looking forward to feedback from you. Fork it on GitHub [1], create issues and send us pull requests. ;-)
Cheers, Bernhard Pieber
[1] https://github.com/bpieber/Cuis-StyledTextEditor [2] http://www.esug.org/wiki/pier/Conferences/2011/Schedule-And-Talks/StyledText... [3] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUoVbvwspi8&list=PL813665D04A2E4C0A&i...
-- Philippe Back "Helping you hit the top 3 outcomes you really want to achieve"
Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: phil@highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu | Blog: http://philippeback.be
High Octane SPRL rue cour Boisacq 101 1301 Bierges
-- Philippe Back "Helping you hit the top 3 outcomes you really want to achieve"
Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: phil@highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu | Blog: http://philippeback.be
High Octane SPRL rue cour Boisacq 101 1301 Bierges
Cheers, Juan Vuletich
Top post: Is there a market for a pure ST RTF implementation?
My first thought is "it can't be that hard to do" which is of course probably quite wrong, given that I don't know much about how RTF works:)
I'm curious about why RTF would live in a plugin, given that it's so common a format. Is that because the plugin wraps some convenient native libraries?
On Apr 26, 2012, at 12:21 PM, "Juan Vuletich (mail lists)" juanlists@jvuletich.org wrote:
Quoting "H. Hirzel" hannes.hirzel@gmail.com:
On 4/21/12, Bernhard Pieber bernhard@pieber.com wrote:
Am 21.04.2012 um 22:22 schrieb "phil@highoctane.be" phil@highoctane.be:
Yeah VM works on iOS.
Cool!
My use case is private, nothing fancy. I just value having decent TextEditor and friends.
For an OO thing like Smalltalk Pharo, it would be a shame to now have a top notch UI kit for editing text.
I totally agree. That's one reason why I started the Styled Text Editor project. ;-)
Great effort! Are there screen shots of the implementation available somewhere?
We haven´t published any. I can do it in case you´re not able to run it...
In which format does it save the files? RTF? HTML? Something else?
Native format is SmartRefStream. The export to RTF is done and used for ExtendedClipboard (currently only supported on the 4 series Mac VM). It would be trivial to add support for saving RTF files, but RTF can not hold all the features StyledTextEditor supports, so it is better to use own format.
Cheers, Juan Vuletich
--Hannes
Cheers, Bernhard
I hope to be able to provide several decent samples so that newcomers don't have to go through the same pain as I go through now.
Phil
2012/4/21 Bernhard Pieber bernhard@pieber.com Thanks for the encouragement!
The necessary funding depends on the effort of course, and this in turn depends on the approach one uses for porting. We have an idea how to do the port to Pharo as an external package. Do you have a concrete use case in mind?
Cheers, Bernhard
P.S. Did you succeed building the Mac VM on Xcode 4.3 yet?
Am 21.04.2012 um 21:17 schrieb "phil@highoctane.be" phil@highoctane.be:
Great news!
I am currently busy looking after Text, TextAttributes, TextConstants, Paragraph... and god, it went through the grinder and it shows.
I understand the reasons that led to such things but Collections-Text is in need of improvement for sure.
How much funding would be necessary to get this port done?
Phil
2012/4/21 Bernhard Pieber bernhard@pieber.com Dear Smalltalkers,
I am very happy to announce that the Styled Text Editor for the brand new Cuis 4.0 is now available on GitHub [1]. The Styled Text Editor was first presented by me at last year's ESUG in Edinburgh [2]. Thanks to ESUG the presentation was recorded [3].
The Styled Text Editor is a framework for rich text editing using styles as known from popular word processors like Apple Pages or Microsoft Word. It features paragraph and character styles, allowing easy text formatting using styles only. It is intended for applications where users need to work with good looking rich text in a simple and fast way.
Rich text commonly refers to text with formatting information like different fonts, sizes, alignments, and emphasis. To make editing as simple as possible instead of individual formatting information end users apply styles to parts of the text. Editing is made fast by keyboard shortcuts for text navigation, selection, and styles selection. Where possible the feel of widely used rich text editors is supported.
It includes many features like
- numbered and bulleted list paragraph styles
- support for images
- multiple level undo and redo
- text completion using various glossaries including a dictionary of
English with about 166.000 words
- RTF clipboard (on OS X VMs with the ClipboardExtendedPlugin)
The Styled Text Editor is developed in Cuis with the plan to eventually port it to Squeak and Pharo. The development of the Styled Text Editor inspired many changes to Cuis itself, and It is the first package to use the brand new DVCS based development process for external packages for Cuis 4.0.
The idea and funding was provided by me, Bernhard Pieber and my company Software Generation. The implementation was done by Juan Vuletich, the mastermind behind Cuis. Thanks Juan for the close cooperation. It was and still is great fun to work with you.
We are looking forward to feedback from you. Fork it on GitHub [1], create issues and send us pull requests. ;-)
Cheers, Bernhard Pieber
[1] https://github.com/bpieber/Cuis-StyledTextEditor [2] http://www.esug.org/wiki/pier/Conferences/2011/Schedule-And-Talks/StyledText... [3] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUoVbvwspi8&list=PL813665D04A2E4C0A&i...
-- Philippe Back "Helping you hit the top 3 outcomes you really want to achieve"
Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: phil@highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu | Blog: http://philippeback.be
High Octane SPRL rue cour Boisacq 101 1301 Bierges
-- Philippe Back "Helping you hit the top 3 outcomes you really want to achieve"
Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: phil@highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu | Blog: http://philippeback.be
High Octane SPRL rue cour Boisacq 101 1301 Bierges
Cheers, Juan Vuletich
Hi Casey,
Quoting Casey Ransberger casey.obrien.r@gmail.com:
Top post: Is there a market for a pure ST RTF implementation?
My first thought is "it can't be that hard to do" which is of course probably quite wrong, given that I don't know much about how RTF works:)
I'm curious about why RTF would live in a plugin, given that it's so common a format. Is that because the plugin wraps some convenient native libraries?
No, you got me wrong! Maybe you'd check the code, but anyway... The RTF for StyledTextEditor is pure Smalltalk. The export was done by me, and was quite easy to do. The parser for import is based on Sophie's.
The extended clipboard plugin is used to bring RTF (and any other supported format, like bmp/jpeg/tiff) from / to the OS clipboard.
That's why I say that supporting RTF file format is no big deal.
Cheers, Juan Vuletich
On Apr 26, 2012, at 12:21 PM, "Juan Vuletich (mail lists)" juanlists@jvuletich.org wrote:
Quoting "H. Hirzel" hannes.hirzel@gmail.com:
On 4/21/12, Bernhard Pieber bernhard@pieber.com wrote:
Am 21.04.2012 um 22:22 schrieb "phil@highoctane.be" phil@highoctane.be:
Yeah VM works on iOS.
Cool!
My use case is private, nothing fancy. I just value having decent TextEditor and friends.
For an OO thing like Smalltalk Pharo, it would be a shame to now have a top notch UI kit for editing text.
I totally agree. That's one reason why I started the Styled Text Editor project. ;-)
Great effort! Are there screen shots of the implementation available somewhere?
We haven´t published any. I can do it in case you´re not able to run it...
In which format does it save the files? RTF? HTML? Something else?
Native format is SmartRefStream. The export to RTF is done and used for ExtendedClipboard (currently only supported on the 4 series Mac VM). It would be trivial to add support for saving RTF files, but RTF can not hold all the features StyledTextEditor supports, so it is better to use own format.
Cheers, Juan Vuletich
--Hannes
Cheers, Bernhard
I hope to be able to provide several decent samples so that newcomers don't have to go through the same pain as I go through now.
Phil
2012/4/21 Bernhard Pieber bernhard@pieber.com Thanks for the encouragement!
The necessary funding depends on the effort of course, and this in turn depends on the approach one uses for porting. We have an idea how to do the port to Pharo as an external package. Do you have a concrete use case in mind?
Cheers, Bernhard
P.S. Did you succeed building the Mac VM on Xcode 4.3 yet?
Am 21.04.2012 um 21:17 schrieb "phil@highoctane.be" phil@highoctane.be:
Great news!
I am currently busy looking after Text, TextAttributes, TextConstants, Paragraph... and god, it went through the grinder and it shows.
I understand the reasons that led to such things but Collections-Text is in need of improvement for sure.
How much funding would be necessary to get this port done?
Phil
2012/4/21 Bernhard Pieber bernhard@pieber.com Dear Smalltalkers,
I am very happy to announce that the Styled Text Editor for the brand new Cuis 4.0 is now available on GitHub [1]. The Styled Text Editor was first presented by me at last year's ESUG in Edinburgh [2]. Thanks to ESUG the presentation was recorded [3].
The Styled Text Editor is a framework for rich text editing using styles as known from popular word processors like Apple Pages or Microsoft Word. It features paragraph and character styles, allowing easy text formatting using styles only. It is intended for applications where users need to work with good looking rich text in a simple and fast way.
Rich text commonly refers to text with formatting information like different fonts, sizes, alignments, and emphasis. To make editing as simple as possible instead of individual formatting information end users apply styles to parts of the text. Editing is made fast by keyboard shortcuts for text navigation, selection, and styles selection. Where possible the feel of widely used rich text editors is supported.
It includes many features like
- numbered and bulleted list paragraph styles
- support for images
- multiple level undo and redo
- text completion using various glossaries including a dictionary of
English with about 166.000 words
- RTF clipboard (on OS X VMs with the ClipboardExtendedPlugin)
The Styled Text Editor is developed in Cuis with the plan to eventually port it to Squeak and Pharo. The development of the Styled Text Editor inspired many changes to Cuis itself, and It is the first package to use the brand new DVCS based development process for external packages for Cuis 4.0.
The idea and funding was provided by me, Bernhard Pieber and my company Software Generation. The implementation was done by Juan Vuletich, the mastermind behind Cuis. Thanks Juan for the close cooperation. It was and still is great fun to work with you.
We are looking forward to feedback from you. Fork it on GitHub [1], create issues and send us pull requests. ;-)
Cheers, Bernhard Pieber
[1] https://github.com/bpieber/Cuis-StyledTextEditor [2] http://www.esug.org/wiki/pier/Conferences/2011/Schedule-And-Talks/StyledText... [3] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUoVbvwspi8&list=PL813665D04A2E4C0A&i...
-- Philippe Back "Helping you hit the top 3 outcomes you really want to achieve"
Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: phil@highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu | Blog: http://philippeback.be
High Octane SPRL rue cour Boisacq 101 1301 Bierges
-- Philippe Back "Helping you hit the top 3 outcomes you really want to achieve"
Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: phil@highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu | Blog: http://philippeback.be
High Octane SPRL rue cour Boisacq 101 1301 Bierges
Cheers, Juan Vuletich
Cheers, Juan Vuletich
Aha! Yes I understood quite improperly. Now I get it though.
As far as reading the actual code (you're quite right, I should have) it's just rather a challenge from a DRM phone:(
I mean to fix this, but first I need to get Celeste (or some such) working in Cuis, and then get Cuis working on my phone again!
:)
On Apr 26, 2012, at 4:12 PM, "Juan Vuletich (mail lists)" juanlists@jvuletich.org wrote:
Hi Casey,
Quoting Casey Ransberger casey.obrien.r@gmail.com:
Top post: Is there a market for a pure ST RTF implementation?
My first thought is "it can't be that hard to do" which is of course probably quite wrong, given that I don't know much about how RTF works:)
I'm curious about why RTF would live in a plugin, given that it's so common a format. Is that because the plugin wraps some convenient native libraries?
No, you got me wrong! Maybe you'd check the code, but anyway... The RTF for StyledTextEditor is pure Smalltalk. The export was done by me, and was quite easy to do. The parser for import is based on Sophie's.
The extended clipboard plugin is used to bring RTF (and any other supported format, like bmp/jpeg/tiff) from / to the OS clipboard.
That's why I say that supporting RTF file format is no big deal.
Cheers, Juan Vuletich
On Apr 26, 2012, at 12:21 PM, "Juan Vuletich (mail lists)" juanlists@jvuletich.org wrote:
Quoting "H. Hirzel" hannes.hirzel@gmail.com:
On 4/21/12, Bernhard Pieber bernhard@pieber.com wrote:
Am 21.04.2012 um 22:22 schrieb "phil@highoctane.be" phil@highoctane.be:
Yeah VM works on iOS.
Cool!
My use case is private, nothing fancy. I just value having decent TextEditor and friends.
For an OO thing like Smalltalk Pharo, it would be a shame to now have a top notch UI kit for editing text.
I totally agree. That's one reason why I started the Styled Text Editor project. ;-)
Great effort! Are there screen shots of the implementation available somewhere?
We haven´t published any. I can do it in case you´re not able to run it...
In which format does it save the files? RTF? HTML? Something else?
Native format is SmartRefStream. The export to RTF is done and used for ExtendedClipboard (currently only supported on the 4 series Mac VM). It would be trivial to add support for saving RTF files, but RTF can not hold all the features StyledTextEditor supports, so it is better to use own format.
Cheers, Juan Vuletich
--Hannes
Cheers, Bernhard
I hope to be able to provide several decent samples so that newcomers don't have to go through the same pain as I go through now.
Phil
2012/4/21 Bernhard Pieber bernhard@pieber.com Thanks for the encouragement!
The necessary funding depends on the effort of course, and this in turn depends on the approach one uses for porting. We have an idea how to do the port to Pharo as an external package. Do you have a concrete use case in mind?
Cheers, Bernhard
P.S. Did you succeed building the Mac VM on Xcode 4.3 yet?
Am 21.04.2012 um 21:17 schrieb "phil@highoctane.be" phil@highoctane.be:
> Great news! > > I am currently busy looking after Text, TextAttributes, TextConstants, > Paragraph... and god, it went through the grinder and it shows. > > I understand the reasons that led to such things but Collections-Text is > in need of improvement for sure. > > How much funding would be necessary to get this port done? > > Phil > > 2012/4/21 Bernhard Pieber bernhard@pieber.com > Dear Smalltalkers, > > I am very happy to announce that the Styled Text Editor for the brand new > Cuis 4.0 is now available on GitHub [1]. The Styled Text Editor was first > presented by me at last year's ESUG in Edinburgh [2]. Thanks to ESUG the > presentation was recorded [3]. > > The Styled Text Editor is a framework for rich text editing using styles > as known from popular word processors like Apple Pages or Microsoft Word. > It features paragraph and character styles, allowing easy text formatting > using styles only. It is intended for applications where users need to > work with good looking rich text in a simple and fast way. > > Rich text commonly refers to text with formatting information like > different fonts, sizes, alignments, and emphasis. To make editing as > simple as possible instead of individual formatting information end users > apply styles to parts of the text. Editing is made fast by keyboard > shortcuts for text navigation, selection, and styles selection. Where > possible the feel of widely used rich text editors is supported. > > It includes many features like > - numbered and bulleted list paragraph styles > - support for images > - multiple level undo and redo > - text completion using various glossaries including a dictionary of > English with about 166.000 words > - RTF clipboard (on OS X VMs with the ClipboardExtendedPlugin) > > The Styled Text Editor is developed in Cuis with the plan to eventually > port it to Squeak and Pharo. The development of the Styled Text Editor > inspired many changes to Cuis itself, and It is the first package to use > the brand new DVCS based development process for external packages for > Cuis 4.0. > > The idea and funding was provided by me, Bernhard Pieber and my company > Software Generation. The implementation was done by Juan Vuletich, the > mastermind behind Cuis. Thanks Juan for the close cooperation. It was and > still is great fun to work with you. > > We are looking forward to feedback from you. Fork it on GitHub [1], > create issues and send us pull requests. ;-) > > Cheers, > Bernhard Pieber > > [1] https://github.com/bpieber/Cuis-StyledTextEditor > [2] > http://www.esug.org/wiki/pier/Conferences/2011/Schedule-And-Talks/StyledText... > [3] > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUoVbvwspi8&list=PL813665D04A2E4C0A&i... > > > > -- > Philippe Back > "Helping you hit the top 3 outcomes you really want to achieve" > > Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: > phil@highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu | Blog: > http://philippeback.be > > High Octane SPRL > rue cour Boisacq 101 > 1301 Bierges >
-- Philippe Back "Helping you hit the top 3 outcomes you really want to achieve"
Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: phil@highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu | Blog: http://philippeback.be
High Octane SPRL rue cour Boisacq 101 1301 Bierges
Cheers, Juan Vuletich
Cheers, Juan Vuletich
Hi Juan
On 4/27/12, Juan Vuletich (mail lists) juanlists@jvuletich.org wrote:
Hi Casey,
Quoting Casey Ransberger casey.obrien.r@gmail.com:
Top post: Is there a market for a pure ST RTF implementation?
My first thought is "it can't be that hard to do" which is of course probably quite wrong, given that I don't know much about how RTF works:)
I'm curious about why RTF would live in a plugin, given that it's so common a format. Is that because the plugin wraps some convenient native libraries?
No, you got me wrong! Maybe you'd check the code, but anyway... The RTF for StyledTextEditor is pure Smalltalk. The export was done by me, and was quite easy to do. The parser for import is based on Sophie's.
I remember that there disucssions on the mailing list about not beeing able to use Sophie code because it is a different license. I assume now with the github version control system this is a different issue as the Sophie file is separated, right?
I read here https://github.com/bpieber/Cuis-StyledTextEditor/blob/master/LICENSE that the RTF import is BSD, the rest is MIT.
-- Hannes
The extended clipboard plugin is used to bring RTF (and any other supported format, like bmp/jpeg/tiff) from / to the OS clipboard.
That's why I say that supporting RTF file format is no big deal.
Cheers, Juan Vuletich
On Apr 26, 2012, at 12:21 PM, "Juan Vuletich (mail lists)" juanlists@jvuletich.org wrote:
Quoting "H. Hirzel" hannes.hirzel@gmail.com:
On 4/21/12, Bernhard Pieber bernhard@pieber.com wrote:
Am 21.04.2012 um 22:22 schrieb "phil@highoctane.be" phil@highoctane.be:
Yeah VM works on iOS.
Cool!
My use case is private, nothing fancy. I just value having decent TextEditor and friends.
For an OO thing like Smalltalk Pharo, it would be a shame to now have a top notch UI kit for editing text.
I totally agree. That's one reason why I started the Styled Text Editor project. ;-)
Great effort! Are there screen shots of the implementation available somewhere?
We haven´t published any. I can do it in case you´re not able to run it...
In which format does it save the files? RTF? HTML? Something else?
Native format is SmartRefStream. The export to RTF is done and used for ExtendedClipboard (currently only supported on the 4 series Mac VM). It would be trivial to add support for saving RTF files, but RTF can not hold all the features StyledTextEditor supports, so it is better to use own format.
Cheers, Juan Vuletich
--Hannes
Cheers, Bernhard
I hope to be able to provide several decent samples so that newcomers don't have to go through the same pain as I go through now.
Phil
2012/4/21 Bernhard Pieber bernhard@pieber.com Thanks for the encouragement!
The necessary funding depends on the effort of course, and this in turn depends on the approach one uses for porting. We have an idea how to do the port to Pharo as an external package. Do you have a concrete use case in mind?
Cheers, Bernhard
P.S. Did you succeed building the Mac VM on Xcode 4.3 yet?
Am 21.04.2012 um 21:17 schrieb "phil@highoctane.be" phil@highoctane.be:
> Great news! > > I am currently busy looking after Text, TextAttributes, > TextConstants, > Paragraph... and god, it went through the grinder and it shows. > > I understand the reasons that led to such things but Collections-Text > is > in need of improvement for sure. > > How much funding would be necessary to get this port done? > > Phil > > 2012/4/21 Bernhard Pieber bernhard@pieber.com > Dear Smalltalkers, > > I am very happy to announce that the Styled Text Editor for the > brand new > Cuis 4.0 is now available on GitHub [1]. The Styled Text Editor > was first > presented by me at last year's ESUG in Edinburgh [2]. Thanks to ESUG > the > presentation was recorded [3]. > > The Styled Text Editor is a framework for rich text editing using > styles > as known from popular word processors like Apple Pages or > Microsoft Word. > It features paragraph and character styles, allowing easy text > formatting > using styles only. It is intended for applications where users need > to > work with good looking rich text in a simple and fast way. > > Rich text commonly refers to text with formatting information like > different fonts, sizes, alignments, and emphasis. To make editing as > simple as possible instead of individual formatting information > end users > apply styles to parts of the text. Editing is made fast by keyboard > shortcuts for text navigation, selection, and styles selection. > Where > possible the feel of widely used rich text editors is supported. > > It includes many features like > - numbered and bulleted list paragraph styles > - support for images > - multiple level undo and redo > - text completion using various glossaries including a dictionary of > English with about 166.000 words > - RTF clipboard (on OS X VMs with the ClipboardExtendedPlugin) > > The Styled Text Editor is developed in Cuis with the plan to > eventually > port it to Squeak and Pharo. The development of the Styled Text > Editor > inspired many changes to Cuis itself, and It is the first package to > use > the brand new DVCS based development process for external packages > for > Cuis 4.0. > > The idea and funding was provided by me, Bernhard Pieber and my > company > Software Generation. The implementation was done by Juan Vuletich, > the > mastermind behind Cuis. Thanks Juan for the close cooperation. > It was and > still is great fun to work with you. > > We are looking forward to feedback from you. Fork it on GitHub [1], > create issues and send us pull requests. ;-) > > Cheers, > Bernhard Pieber > > [1] https://github.com/bpieber/Cuis-StyledTextEditor > [2] > http://www.esug.org/wiki/pier/Conferences/2011/Schedule-And-Talks/StyledText... > [3] > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUoVbvwspi8&list=PL813665D04A2E4C0A&i... > > > > -- > Philippe Back > "Helping you hit the top 3 outcomes you really want to achieve" > > Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: > phil@highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu | Blog: > http://philippeback.be > > High Octane SPRL > rue cour Boisacq 101 > 1301 Bierges >
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Cheers, Juan Vuletich
Cheers, Juan Vuletich
Hi Hannes,
Quoting "H. Hirzel" hannes.hirzel@gmail.com:
Hi Juan
I remember that there disucssions on the mailing list about not beeing able to use Sophie code because it is a different license. I assume now with the github version control system this is a different issue as the Sophie file is separated, right?
I read here https://github.com/bpieber/Cuis-StyledTextEditor/blob/master/LICENSE that the RTF import is BSD, the rest is MIT.
-- Hannes
Exactly. What would be a problem is to include this code in the official image of a Squeak variant.
Cheers, Juan Vuletich
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