All of Minnow is down at the moment. I asked around on IRC and was informed that the Swiki is being pulled from GA Tech and will be posted again at some indefinite point in the future on Squeak's main website.
I have to say that, if this is in fact why Minnow is down, I'm a bit concerned on two points. During the board election a month ago, several candidates strongly emphasized how they really valued increasing communication about what was going on. I'd hope that if the the Swiki, which is the sole source of a lot of information about Squeak, were to go down for an indefinite period of time, someone involved would at least post a message to the list letting us know what was going on. Except as a response to my inquiry today, I cannot even find any reference in IRC explaining why the Swiki is down. (And, of course, if the Swiki is *not* currently having scheduled downtime, but people think that it is, that's another problem that also should be dealt with.)
I'm also concerned by the fact this exposes we have a nasty single-source failure in the Squeak community. When the Swiki goes down, a tremendous amount of documentation disappears with it. That can be a rather nasty disruption if you're trying to give someone a tutorial on Morphic, which I was trying to do this afternoon. I discovered long after I gave up that there is a static mirror at http://wudika.de/~marcus/swiki/minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/1.html, but the links to the mirrors are (you guessed it) located on the Swiki, which is down. That's a bit of a catch-22. Would it be possible for the web team to add a link to the backup somewhere on the Squeak homepage?
Cheers, --Benjamin
On 1 mai 06, at 06:30, Benjamin Pollack wrote:
All of Minnow is down at the moment. I asked around on IRC and was informed that the Swiki is being pulled from GA Tech and will be posted again at some indefinite point in the future on Squeak's main website.
I have to say that, if this is in fact why Minnow is down, I'm a bit concerned on two points. During the board election a month ago, several candidates strongly emphasized how they really valued increasing communication about what was going on.
sure but we do not control the GA Tech servers nor Swiki.
I'd hope that if the the Swiki, which is the sole source of a lot of information about Squeak, were to go down for an indefinite period of time, someone involved would at least post a message to the list letting us know what was going on. Except as a response to my inquiry today, I cannot even find any reference in IRC explaining why the Swiki is down. (And, of course, if the Swiki is *not* currently having scheduled downtime, but people think that it is, that's another problem that also should be dealt with.)
Exact!
I'm also concerned by the fact this exposes we have a nasty single-source failure in the Squeak community. When the Swiki goes down, a tremendous amount of documentation disappears with it. That can be a rather nasty disruption if you're trying to give someone a tutorial on Morphic, which I was trying to do this afternoon. I discovered long after I gave up that there is a static mirror at http://wudika.de/~marcus/swiki/minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/1.html, but the links to the mirrors are (you guessed it) located on the Swiki, which is down. That's a bit of a catch-22. Would it be possible for the web team to add a link to the backup somewhere on the Squeak homepage?
It would be good. And it would be good to help them. Because the mirror is ***again*** an effort of marcus. And imagine that marcus retires because he would be fedup to run alone. So I suggest that everybody helps at his own level of will and energy but help. There is always something to do for the community :)
Cheers, --Benjamin
Benjamin Pollack skrev:
All of Minnow is down at the moment. I asked around on IRC and was informed that the Swiki is being pulled from GA Tech and will be posted again at some indefinite point in the future on Squeak's main website.
I have to say that, if this is in fact why Minnow is down, I'm a bit concerned on two points. During the board election a month ago, several candidates strongly emphasized how they really valued increasing communication about what was going on. I'd hope that if the the Swiki, which is the sole source of a lot of information about Squeak, were to go down for an indefinite period of time, someone involved would at least post a message to the list letting us know what was going on. Except as a response to my inquiry today, I cannot even find any reference in IRC explaining why the Swiki is down. (And, of course, if the Swiki is *not* currently having scheduled downtime, but people think that it is, that's another problem that also should be dealt with.)
I'm also concerned by the fact this exposes we have a nasty single-source failure in the Squeak community. When the Swiki goes down, a tremendous amount of documentation disappears with it. That can be a rather nasty disruption if you're trying to give someone a tutorial on Morphic, which I was trying to do this afternoon. I discovered long after I gave up that there is a static mirror at http://wudika.de/~marcus/swiki/minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/1.html, but the links to the mirrors are (you guessed it) located on the Swiki, which is down. That's a bit of a catch-22. Would it be possible for the web team to add a link to the backup somewhere on the Squeak homepage?
Thanks for the tip. Link is added. Karl
Cheers, --Benjamin
karl
could you add a link to the new mailing-list ( if this is not already done).
Stef
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