Folks: We don't have Gradient fills or individual background fills for each project. Any like this idea ? Could made as Sunday Squeak ?
Edgar @morplenauta
Each Project object has a ResourceManager object and that has a resourceMap (a dictionary it seems). I do not know if this could be used for backgrounds or is meant for other purposes. Needs to be checked.
Further I remember that there is the option that each project has its own background, searching http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1 gave for example
Desktop Background Example http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1796
How to set the pane background of a Workspace to a picture http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1322
And maybe this one FAQ: Background Colors Last updated at 9:51 pm UTC on 9 February 2003 (thus might need an update) http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/782
On 7/1/18, Edgar J. De Cleene edgardec2005@gmail.com wrote:
Folks: We don't have Gradient fills or individual background fills for each project. Any like this idea ? Could made as Sunday Squeak ?
Edgar @morplenauta
I know this.
What I can't do (still) is having GradientFills for all projects, not just the current one.
This is for have the green degradee background as in 3.10.2 ,k but for any projec.
And how to have a different background for each. I like wood and any shop selling woods potentially have a catalog of pictures. A easy solution could be have a collection of Form of pictures and select from the list. Maybe some wish made money with a huge instructive woods catalog with descriptions or use for each, etc. A "WoodSqueakApp"
Edgar @morplenauta
On 01/07/2018, 13:38, "H. Hirzel" hannes.hirzel@gmail.com wrote:
Each Project object has a ResourceManager object and that has a
resourceMap (a
dictionary it seems). I do not know if this could be
used for backgrounds or
is meant for other purposes. Needs to be
checked.
Further I remember that
there is the option that each project has its
own background, searching
gave for example
Desktop Background Example
How to set the pane background of a
Workspace to a picture
http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1322
And maybe this
one
FAQ: Background Colors Last updated at 9:51 pm UTC on 9 February
2003 (thus might need an update)
On 7/2/18, Edgar J. De Cleene edgardec2005@gmail.com wrote:
I know this.
What I can't do (still) is having GradientFills for all projects, not just the current one.
You mean a menu entry to set a global GradientFills for all projects in one go? --Hannes
This is for have the green degradee background as in 3.10.2 ,k but for any projec.
And how to have a different background for each. I like wood and any shop selling woods potentially have a catalog of pictures. A easy solution could be have a collection of Form of pictures and select from the list. Maybe some wish made money with a huge instructive woods catalog with descriptions or use for each, etc. A "WoodSqueakApp"
Edgar @morplenauta
On 01/07/2018, 13:38, "H. Hirzel" hannes.hirzel@gmail.com wrote:
Each Project object has a ResourceManager object and that has a
resourceMap (a
dictionary it seems). I do not know if this could be
used for backgrounds or
is meant for other purposes. Needs to be
checked.
Further I remember that
there is the option that each project has its
own background, searching
gave for example
Desktop Background Example
How to set the pane background of a
Workspace to a picture
http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1322
And maybe this
one
FAQ: Background Colors Last updated at 9:51 pm UTC on 9 February2003 (thus might need an update)
http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/782
On 7/2/18, H. Hirzel hannes.hirzel@gmail.com wrote:
On 7/2/18, Edgar J. De Cleene edgardec2005@gmail.com wrote:
I know this.
What I can't do (still) is having GradientFills for all projects, not just the current one.
You mean a menu entry to set a global GradientFills for all projects in one go?
En realidad, no te entiendo, a qué te refieres (interpretando tu estilo de inglés)
¿Podría escribir sus requisitos en español?
yo quiero
1) .... 2) .... 3) .....
Luego traducimos al inglés y podemos verificar
a) si ya está allí pero la gente no sabe cómo usarlo o b) lo que se necesita para agregarlo.
Supongo que podemos implementarlo fácilmente para 5.2.
Saludos cordiales
- Hannes
On 7/2/18, H. Hirzel hannes.hirzel@gmail.com wrote:
On 7/2/18, Edgar J. De Cleene edgardec2005@gmail.com wrote:
I know this.
What I can't do (still) is having GradientFills for all projects, not just the current one.
You mean a menu entry to set a global GradientFills for all projects in one go? --Hannes
This is for have the green degradee background as in 3.10.2 ,k but for any projec.
And how to have a different background for each. I like wood and any shop selling woods potentially have a catalog of pictures. A easy solution could be have a collection of Form of pictures and select from the list. Maybe some wish made money with a huge instructive woods catalog with descriptions or use for each, etc. A "WoodSqueakApp"
Edgar @morplenauta
On 01/07/2018, 13:38, "H. Hirzel" hannes.hirzel@gmail.com wrote:
Each Project object has a ResourceManager object and that has a
resourceMap (a
dictionary it seems). I do not know if this could be
used for backgrounds or
is meant for other purposes. Needs to be
checked.
Further I remember that
there is the option that each project has its
own background, searching
gave for example
Desktop Background Example
How to set the pane background of a
Workspace to a picture
http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1322
And maybe this
one
FAQ: Background Colors Last updated at 9:51 pm UTC on 9 February2003 (thus might need an update)
http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/782
When I start 5.2 wish to have same look of 3.10. Try to have the fill on each project and learn actually you could have Form no any Gradient for all projects
On 02/07/2018, 06:39, "H. Hirzel" hannes.hirzel@gmail.com wrote:
You mean a menu entry to set a global GradientFills for all projects in one go?
--Hannes
On Sunday 01 July 2018 05:53 PM, Edgar J. De Cleene wrote:
Folks: We don't have Gradient fills or individual background fills for each project.
I am not sure if I have understood your question properly, but the facility already exists in Squeak 5.2alpha:
* Open a new Morphic Project * Press ESC to bring up world menu -> appearance * Select "set gradient color ..." * Verify background color changing to gradient. * Revert to home project (Previous Project) * Reenter project * Verify that the gradient background is restored. * Save project into a file. * Quit and Restart image * Load project back from file. * Verify that the gradient background is restored.
HTH .. Subbu
Thanks, Subbu for the description of the use case.
It seems to me that there are a lot of steps involved.
Maybe there is a simpler way.
Yes, we need to identify the problem(s), the gap(s) so to say which have to be filled in....
--Hannes
On 7/2/18, K K Subbu kksubbu.ml@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday 01 July 2018 05:53 PM, Edgar J. De Cleene wrote:
Folks: We don't have Gradient fills or individual background fills for each project.
I am not sure if I have understood your question properly, but the facility already exists in Squeak 5.2alpha:
- Open a new Morphic Project
- Press ESC to bring up world menu -> appearance
- Select "set gradient color ..."
- Verify background color changing to gradient.
- Revert to home project (Previous Project)
- Reenter project
- Verify that the gradient background is restored.
- Save project into a file.
- Quit and Restart image
- Load project back from file.
- Verify that the gradient background is restored.
HTH .. Subbu
Hello Subbu
I did the test as you describe. But at point 3 I got stuck.
1. Open a new Morphic Project 2. Press ESC to bring up world menu -> appearance 3. Select "set gradient color ..."
I do not see this menu entry: "set gradient color ..." (see screen shot)
4. Verify background color changing to gradient. 5. Revert to home project (Previous Project) 6. Reenter project 7. Verify that the gradient background is restored. 8. Save project into a file. 9. Quit and Restart image 10. Load project back from file. 11. Verify that the gradient background is restored.
Maybe this is an issue of project settings?
--Hannes
Yes, this works and I use it. What I means is
Setup World background globally. Each time you made a new project, the choosen background shows if was a Form. A solid color or a Picture converted to Form. I (still) do not found how setup a GradientFill globally
On 02/07/2018, 07:00, "K K Subbu" kksubbu.ml@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday 01 July 2018 05:53 PM, Edgar J. De Cleene wrote: Folks: We don't have Gradient fills or individual background fills for each project.
I am
not sure if I have understood your question properly, but the
facility
already exists in Squeak 5.2alpha:
* Open a new Morphic Project * Press ESC
to bring up world menu -> appearance
* Select "set gradient color ..." *
Verify background color changing to gradient.
* Revert to home project
(Previous Project)
* Reenter project * Verify that the gradient background is
restored.
* Save project into a file. * Quit and Restart image * Load project
back from file.
* Verify that the gradient background is restored.
HTH ..
Subbu
Now I understand. The question is where it the GradientFill information stored. The project local one and the one used for new projects.
Attached is a diagram of an object of class Project with the collaborating objects.
--Hannes
On 7/2/18, Edgar J. De Cleene edgardec2005@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, this works and I use it. What I means is
Setup World background globally. Each time you made a new project, the choosen background shows if was a Form. A solid color or a Picture converted to Form. I (still) do not found how setup a GradientFill globally
On 02/07/2018, 07:00, "K K Subbu" kksubbu.ml@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday 01 July 2018 05:53 PM, Edgar J. De Cleene wrote: Folks: We don't have Gradient fills or individual background fills for each project.
I am
not sure if I have understood your question properly, but the
facility
already exists in Squeak 5.2alpha:
- Open a new Morphic Project
- Press ESC
to bring up world menu -> appearance
- Select "set gradient color ..."
Verify background color changing to gradient.
- Revert to home project
(Previous Project)
- Reenter project
- Verify that the gradient background is
restored.
- Save project into a file.
- Quit and Restart image
- Load project
back from file.
- Verify that the gradient background is restored.
HTH ..
Subbu
On 7/2/18, H. Hirzel hannes.hirzel@gmail.com wrote:
Now I understand. The question is where it the GradientFill information stored. The project local one and the one used for new projects.
Attached is a diagram of an object of class Project with the collaborating objects.
The next diagram shows the result where the GradientFill information is stored.
So now it is about tracing how the PasteUpMorph used for the world http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1816 object is intialized.
Then it is about providing a different initialisation value....
--Hannes
On 7/2/18, Edgar J. De Cleene edgardec2005@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, this works and I use it. What I means is
Setup World background globally. Each time you made a new project, the choosen background shows if was a Form. A solid color or a Picture converted to Form. I (still) do not found how setup a GradientFill globally
On 02/07/2018, 07:00, "K K Subbu" kksubbu.ml@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday 01 July 2018 05:53 PM, Edgar J. De Cleene wrote: Folks: We don't have Gradient fills or individual background fills for each project.
I am
not sure if I have understood your question properly, but the
facility
already exists in Squeak 5.2alpha:
- Open a new Morphic Project
- Press ESC
to bring up world menu -> appearance
- Select "set gradient color ..."
Verify background color changing to gradient.
- Revert to home project
(Previous Project)
- Reenter project
- Verify that the gradient background is
restored.
- Save project into a file.
- Quit and Restart image
- Load project
back from file.
- Verify that the gradient background is restored.
HTH ..
Subbu
The attachment again, this time with file type so that is shows in the mail.
On 7/2/18, H. Hirzel hannes.hirzel@gmail.com wrote:
On 7/2/18, H. Hirzel hannes.hirzel@gmail.com wrote:
Now I understand. The question is where it the GradientFill information stored. The project local one and the one used for new projects.
Attached is a diagram of an object of class Project with the collaborating objects.
The next diagram shows the result where the GradientFill information is stored.
So now it is about tracing how the PasteUpMorph used for the world http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1816 object is intialized.
Then it is about providing a different initialisation value....
--Hannes
On 7/2/18, Edgar J. De Cleene edgardec2005@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, this works and I use it. What I means is
Setup World background globally. Each time you made a new project, the choosen background shows if was a Form. A solid color or a Picture converted to Form. I (still) do not found how setup a GradientFill globally
On 02/07/2018, 07:00, "K K Subbu" kksubbu.ml@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday 01 July 2018 05:53 PM, Edgar J. De Cleene wrote: Folks: We don't have Gradient fills or individual background fills for each project.
I am
not sure if I have understood your question properly, but the
facility
already exists in Squeak 5.2alpha:
- Open a new Morphic Project
- Press ESC
to bring up world menu -> appearance
- Select "set gradient color ..."
Verify background color changing to gradient.
- Revert to home project
(Previous Project)
- Reenter project
- Verify that the gradient background is
restored.
- Save project into a file.
- Quit and Restart image
- Load project
back from file.
- Verify that the gradient background is restored.
HTH ..
Subbu
Very nice and valuable. I propose having BabySRE included. Or at less parts which we know works well in 5.2
Edgar @morplenauta
On 02/07/2018, 12:47, "H. Hirzel" hannes.hirzel@gmail.com wrote:
Now I understand. The question is where it the GradientFill information stored. The project local one and the one used for new projects.
Attached is a diagram of an object of class Project with the collaborating objects.
--Hannes
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