Hi,
would the community agree that svn.squeak.org hosts a book on Seaside in french ? I'm planning to write the book and am looking for a svn server. It will be based on squeak (with a short chapter on Squeak and Smalltalk) and will be written in LaTeX.
I don't know about the licence yet. I would like to make it free but I would like it to be printed/published too.
Is it a problem for you ?
Bye
On 09.05.2006, at 18:30, Damien Cassou wrote:
Hi,
would the community agree that svn.squeak.org hosts a book on Seaside in french ? I'm planning to write the book and am looking for a svn server. It will be based on squeak (with a short chapter on Squeak and Smalltalk) and will be written in LaTeX.
I don't know about the licence yet. I would like to make it free but I would like it to be printed/published too.
It seems that many people use a Creatice Commons license today for books: The pdf is online, people can even print it. Or buy the book, which is in most cases much less hassle than printing...
Even "real" publishers seem to experiment with this.
Is it a problem for you ?
No, that's what the server is for.
Marcus
Marcus Denker a écrit :
On 09.05.2006, at 18:30, Damien Cassou wrote:
Hi,
would the community agree that svn.squeak.org hosts a book on Seaside in french ? I'm planning to write the book and am looking for a svn server. It will be based on squeak (with a short chapter on Squeak and Smalltalk) and will be written in LaTeX.
I don't know about the licence yet. I would like to make it free but I would like it to be printed/published too.
It seems that many people use a Creatice Commons license today for books: The pdf is online, people can even print it. Or buy the book, which is in most cases much less hassle than printing...
Even "real" publishers seem to experiment with this.
Do you know publishers that would agree to publish a free book on Seaside ?
Il giorno mar, 09/05/2006 alle 20.41 +0200, Damien Cassou ha scritto:
Marcus Denker a écrit :
On 09.05.2006, at 18:30, Damien Cassou wrote:
Hi,
would the community agree that svn.squeak.org hosts a book on Seaside in french ? I'm planning to write the book and am looking for a svn server. It will be based on squeak (with a short chapter on Squeak and Smalltalk) and will be written in LaTeX.
I don't know about the licence yet. I would like to make it free but I would like it to be printed/published too.
It seems that many people use a Creatice Commons license today for books: The pdf is online, people can even print it. Or buy the book, which is in most cases much less hassle than printing...
Even "real" publishers seem to experiment with this.
Do you know publishers that would agree to publish a free book on Seaside ?
You can self-publish it using an online printing service sush as lulu.com .
Giovanni
Giovanni Corriga a écrit :
Il giorno mar, 09/05/2006 alle 20.41 +0200, Damien Cassou ha scritto:
Marcus Denker a écrit :
On 09.05.2006, at 18:30, Damien Cassou wrote:
Hi,
would the community agree that svn.squeak.org hosts a book on Seaside in french ? I'm planning to write the book and am looking for a svn server. It will be based on squeak (with a short chapter on Squeak and Smalltalk) and will be written in LaTeX.
I don't know about the licence yet. I would like to make it free but I would like it to be printed/published too.
It seems that many people use a Creatice Commons license today for books: The pdf is online, people can even print it. Or buy the book, which is in most cases much less hassle than printing...
Even "real" publishers seem to experiment with this.
Do you know publishers that would agree to publish a free book on Seaside ?
You can self-publish it using an online printing service sush as lulu.com .
Interesting idea. I will take a look, thanks.
Damien Pollet a écrit :
You can self-publish it using an online printing service sush as lulu.com .
heh, somewhere in their flash demo they have a big DON'T USE THE BACK BUTTON :)
Damien, any news, can we peek at the book yet ?
Not at all, I was waiting for the end of the school to start it. I've a table of contents if you are interested in.
On 9 mai 06, at 20:41, Damien Cassou wrote:
Marcus Denker a écrit :
On 09.05.2006, at 18:30, Damien Cassou wrote:
Hi,
would the community agree that svn.squeak.org hosts a book on Seaside in french ? I'm planning to write the book and am looking for a svn server. It will be based on squeak (with a short chapter on Squeak and Smalltalk) and will be written in LaTeX.
I don't know about the licence yet. I would like to make it free but I would like it to be printed/published too.
It seems that many people use a Creatice Commons license today for books: The pdf is online, people can even print it. Or buy the book, which is in most cases much less hassle than printing... Even "real" publishers seem to experiment with this.
Do you know publishers that would agree to publish a free book on Seaside ?
Sure. But write it first :) this helps in the negociation :) Serge knows a guy that could do that
Stef
-- Damien Cassou
stéphane ducasse a écrit :
On 9 mai 06, at 20:41, Damien Cassou wrote:
Marcus Denker a écrit :
On 09.05.2006, at 18:30, Damien Cassou wrote:
Hi,
would the community agree that svn.squeak.org hosts a book on Seaside in french ? I'm planning to write the book and am looking for a svn server. It will be based on squeak (with a short chapter on Squeak and Smalltalk) and will be written in LaTeX.
I don't know about the licence yet. I would like to make it free but I would like it to be printed/published too.
It seems that many people use a Creatice Commons license today for books: The pdf is online, people can even print it. Or buy the book, which is in most cases much less hassle than printing... Even "real" publishers seem to experiment with this.
Do you know publishers that would agree to publish a free book on Seaside ?
Sure. But write it first :) this helps in the negociation :) Serge knows a guy that could do that
yes, publication is the easiest part if you have something to publish !
-- oooo Dr. Serge Stinckwich OOOOOOOO Université de Caen>CNRS UMR 6072>GREYC>MAD OOESUGOO http://purl.org/net/SergeStinckwich oooooo Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)] \ / ##
On 9-May-06, at 11:17 AM, Marcus Denker wrote:
On 09.05.2006, at 18:30, Damien Cassou wrote:
Hi,
would the community agree that svn.squeak.org hosts a book on Seaside in french ?
[snip]
No, that's what the server is for.
One amongst us that has experience with svn might like to think a bit about setting up a basic directory tree in the svn server so that we have some hope of it being tidy.
tim -- tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Useful random insult:- Teflon brain -- nothing sticks.
I'm curious what you mean. I was just assuming that we would have a directory per project where each project would then be responsible for their own sub-tree structure. Does that sound overly messy to you? Perhaps I don't understand your point.
Ken
On Tue, 2006-05-09 at 11:57 -0700, tim Rowledge wrote:
One amongst us that has experience with svn might like to think a bit about setting up a basic directory tree in the svn server so that we have some hope of it being tidy.
tim
tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Useful random insult:- Teflon brain -- nothing sticks.
Ken Causey a écrit :
I'm curious what you mean. I was just assuming that we would have a directory per project where each project would then be responsible for their own sub-tree structure. Does that sound overly messy to you? Perhaps I don't understand your point.
As a svn user, I agree with this. One directory for every project cause a lot of problems:
- Each project share the same revision number (ie: you won't have following version numbers for your project) - It's more difficult to manage hook scripts (sending a mail on each commit for example) - It may be more difficult to manage read/write access
OK, perhaps I misstated myself. What I should have said is one 'repository' per project, not one directory. In other words if your project were to be called 'seasidebook' then I or Marcus would:
svnadmin create --fs-type fsfs /home/svn/site/seasidebook (and some other stuff not relevant for this discussion)
That would completely seperate each project wouldn't it? Sorry for the confusion.
Ken
On Tue, 2006-05-09 at 21:51 +0200, Damien Cassou wrote:
Ken Causey a écrit :
I'm curious what you mean. I was just assuming that we would have a directory per project where each project would then be responsible for their own sub-tree structure. Does that sound overly messy to you? Perhaps I don't understand your point.
As a svn user, I agree with this. One directory for every project cause a lot of problems:
- Each project share the same revision number (ie: you won't have
following version numbers for your project)
- It's more difficult to manage hook scripts (sending a mail on each
commit for example)
- It may be more difficult to manage read/write access
On 9-May-06, at 12:57 PM, Ken Causey wrote:
OK, perhaps I misstated myself. What I should have said is one 'repository' per project, not one directory. In other words if your project were to be called 'seasidebook' then I or Marcus would:
svnadmin create --fs-type fsfs /home/svn/site/seasidebook (and some other stuff not relevant for this discussion)
That would completely seperate each project wouldn't it? Sorry for the confusion.
That sounds like the answer to me; I was thinking that there is a single repository and that we should get some sections set up within it. If we can have multiple repositories then I guess life gets much simpler. Can you tell I have only a vague acquaintance with svn?
tim -- tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Useful random insult:- His shared libraries aren't installed.
Marcus Denker wrote :
On 09.05.2006, at 18:30, Damien Cassou wrote:
Hi,
would the community agree that svn.squeak.org hosts a book on Seaside in french ? I'm planning to write the book and am looking for a svn server. It will be based on squeak (with a short chapter on Squeak and Smalltalk) and will be written in LaTeX.
Is it a problem for you ?
No, that's what the server is for.
Can somebody create me an account on this svn server ? I will start my book now (at least try to write something).
Thank you very much
Bye
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