Maybe it has been asked before, but i was wondering if it was possible to imagine a squeak starting directly with wx widgets and without morphic ( to be smaller). It's not i don't like morphic of course, but i'm working on long term UI projects and i would dreaaam about doing it in squeak. My problem is that the targeted public won't like the morphic look, either the all-in-one-window design. After playing a little with wxSqueak, i realized that it was for me the perfect match of multi platform UI , cool Dev environment ...etc..etc.. I won't explain you all why Squeak is a great dev platform , will i ?
Thank you in advance for the time you will take to think about :)
Try to open WxDemoFrame in latest wxSqueak image. Expand node "Other samples" and run demo for "SqueakDevTools" - this is a wxWidgets based System Browser! I really like the idea of "native looked squeak development enviroment" (via wxWidgets), but it's not ready for production yet...
pf
serge vi píše v St 25. 01. 2006 v 22:16 +0100:
Maybe it has been asked before, but i was wondering if it was possible to imagine a squeak starting directly with wx widgets and without morphic ( to be smaller). It's not i don't like morphic of course, but i'm working on long term UI projects and i would dreaaam about doing it in squeak. My problem is that the targeted public won't like the morphic look, either the all-in-one-window design. After playing a little with wxSqueak, i realized that it was for me the perfect match of multi platform UI , cool Dev environment ...etc..etc.. I won't explain you all why Squeak is a great dev platform , will i ?
Thank you in advance for the time you will take to think about :)
In principle, wxSqueak requires only a few kernel classes, so it's certainly conceivable that it could be loaded into a Morphic-free image. The current tool demo is mostly a proof-of-concept; the tools are hacked in to make it work. In the next (3.9-based) release, I'll have a more complete set of tools constructed with ToolBuilder.
.. Rob
Petr Fischer wrote:
Try to open WxDemoFrame in latest wxSqueak image. Expand node "Other samples" and run demo for "SqueakDevTools" - this is a wxWidgets based System Browser! I really like the idea of "native looked squeak development enviroment" (via wxWidgets), but it's not ready for production yet...
pf
serge vi píše v St 25. 01. 2006 v 22:16 +0100:
Maybe it has been asked before, but i was wondering if it was possible to imagine a squeak starting directly with wx widgets and without morphic ( to be smaller). It's not i don't like morphic of course, but i'm working on long term UI projects and i would dreaaam about doing it in squeak. My problem is that the targeted public won't like the morphic look, either the all-in-one-window design. After playing a little with wxSqueak, i realized that it was for me the perfect match of multi platform UI , cool Dev environment ...etc..etc.. I won't explain you all why Squeak is a great dev platform , will i ?
Thank you in advance for the time you will take to think about :)
On 1/26/06, Rob Gayvert rtg@rochester.rr.com wrote:
In principle, wxSqueak requires only a few kernel classes, so it's certainly conceivable that it could be loaded into a Morphic-free image. The current tool demo is mostly a proof-of-concept; the tools are hacked in to make it work. In the next (3.9-based) release, I'll have a more complete set of tools constructed with ToolBuilder.
Has anyone tried to do this? Stripping morphic out and dealing only with wx? -- Ragnar
Not with wx but with Tweak. It's very hard.
Cheers, - Andreas
Ragnar Hojland Espinosa wrote:
On 1/26/06, Rob Gayvert rtg@rochester.rr.com wrote:
In principle, wxSqueak requires only a few kernel classes, so it's certainly conceivable that it could be loaded into a Morphic-free image. The current tool demo is mostly a proof-of-concept; the tools are hacked in to make it work. In the next (3.9-based) release, I'll have a more complete set of tools constructed with ToolBuilder.
Has anyone tried to do this? Stripping morphic out and dealing only with wx?
Ragnar
Perhaps easier to build up from a spoon minimal image?
For what it's worth, I think this will be a good way to go. Probably the best tack will be to imprint wxSqueak onto a minimal memory from a normal one, which will produce a module record of the transferred behavior. Then one can refactor the module into several properly-organized ones.
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