Come to think of it, I think there's a command line option on the Windows VM to fire up Squeak automagically as a service. I've cross-posted this to the squeak mailing list, so perhaps someone more knowledgeable will answer.
Bob Jarvis The Timken Company
-----Original Message----- From: Steve Wart [SMTP:swart@home.com] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 11:41 AM To: Jarvis, Robert P. Subject: RE: Problem with PWS and Squeak2.5
Thanks, I found it minutes after I posted my question.
But I need to run Squeak headless to do this. The FAQ implies that I need to recompile the VM. I thought there was a command line option to do this, but I can't recall what to look for.
Do you know the parameters I need to use?
Thanks,
Steve
-----Original Message----- From: Jarvis, Robert P. [mailto:Jarvisb@timken.com] Sent: August 26, 1999 8:26 AM To: 'swart@bigserver.com' Subject: RE: Problem with PWS and Squeak2.5
I think the standalone tool you're looking for is called SRVANY.EXE, or something like that, and that it comes with the NT Server Resource Kit.
I
hope this helps.
Bob Jarvis The Timken Company
-----Original Message----- From: Steve Wart [SMTP:swart@home.com] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 11:23 AM To: squeak@cs.uiuc.edu Subject: RE: Problem with PWS and Squeak2.5
Everything works fine with a 2.4 image and a 2.4 VM.
I traced the 2.5 problem as well as I could within Squeak. Socket class>>initializeNetwork works fine.
The problem occurs in the changed implementation of ConnectionQueue>>listenLoop. In 2.5, the socket is sent the message listenOn:backlogSize: which dies when it hits the primitive.
The 2.4 implementation is using Socket>>listenOn: which calls a
different
primitive.
Possibly Mark did not have this problem with the Mac VM because it is
a
little bit further along than the 2.4c VM for Windows?
On a related note, I read the FAQ on how to set up a headless swiki at
http://pbl.cc.gatech.edu:8080/myswiki.285
but it seems to be a little Unix-oriented. Can anyone give me some pointers on setting up a headless Swiki on NT (i.e. as a service?). Do I really have to recompile the VM? I use NT every day, but that doesn't mean I know anything about the OS :-). I've heard there's a tool with the
NT resource
kit for making standalone apps into services, but I've never used it.
Steve
-----Original Message----- From: Bijan Parsia [mailto:bparsia@email.unc.edu] Sent: August 26, 1999 7:32 AM To: swart@bigserver.com; squeak@cs.uiuc.edu Subject: RE: Problem with PWS and Squeak2.5
--On Thursday, August 26, 1999, 6:26 AM -0700 "Steve Wart" swart@home.com wrote:
I am having a similar problem with the 2.4c VM and the 2.5 image
on
NT.
This could be a newbie problem (as both Kellie and I are trying
this
for the first time), because of either not understanding the
documentation
or because something has changed that affects new swikis but
not existing
ones.
Or it could be a problem in using the 2.5 image with the 2.4c VM?
This is my personal guess. If you could try it with a 2.4 image, that would help enormously.
(I *believe* the 2.5 image & vm have some "conditional"
support for new
socket prims. I'm not sure that PWS is fully cognizant of them.)
Here are the steps I am following (from PWS howToStart)
- Download the Server folder from http://guzdial.cc.gatetech.edu/st/server.tar
- Untar into a directory called Server in Squeak's working
directory
- Change ServerAction(class)>>serverDirectory as required
- [PWS initializeAll]
- Create a subdirectory in Server folder (I called it 'fortune')
- [SwikiAction setUp: 'fortune']
- [PWS serveOnPort: 8080 loggingTo: 'swiki-log.txt'] fork
Quick point. "fork" is unnecessary, and, indeed, doesn't do
anything.
But given that it *looks* like a problem with processes, you might
try
it
without forking and see what happens.
Also, try starting up PWS *after* initializeAll but *without*
SwikiAction
setup. My guess is that you'll get the crash, but it'd be nice to
confirm.
I strongly recommend working with an older PWS first!
Cheers, Bijan.
You have to recompile the UNIX VM, but the NT is already wired to be a service via a command-line option. Is it in the Swiki Swiki? I'll hunt around for this.
Mark
Come to think of it, I think there's a command line option on the Windows VM to fire up Squeak automagically as a service. I've cross-posted this to the squeak mailing list, so perhaps someone more knowledgeable will answer.
Bob Jarvis The Timken Company
-----Original Message----- From: Steve Wart [SMTP:swart@home.com] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 11:41 AM To: Jarvis, Robert P. Subject: RE: Problem with PWS and Squeak2.5
Thanks, I found it minutes after I posted my question.
But I need to run Squeak headless to do this. The FAQ implies that I need to recompile the VM. I thought there was a command line option to do this, but I can't recall what to look for.
Do you know the parameters I need to use?
Thanks,
Steve
-----Original Message----- From: Jarvis, Robert P. [mailto:Jarvisb@timken.com] Sent: August 26, 1999 8:26 AM To: 'swart@bigserver.com' Subject: RE: Problem with PWS and Squeak2.5
I think the standalone tool you're looking for is called SRVANY.EXE, or something like that, and that it comes with the NT Server Resource Kit.
I
hope this helps.
Bob Jarvis The Timken Company
-----Original Message----- From: Steve Wart [SMTP:swart@home.com] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 11:23 AM To: squeak@cs.uiuc.edu Subject: RE: Problem with PWS and Squeak2.5
Everything works fine with a 2.4 image and a 2.4 VM.
I traced the 2.5 problem as well as I could within Squeak. Socket class>>initializeNetwork works fine.
The problem occurs in the changed implementation of ConnectionQueue>>listenLoop. In 2.5, the socket is sent the message listenOn:backlogSize: which dies when it hits the primitive.
The 2.4 implementation is using Socket>>listenOn: which calls a
different
primitive.
Possibly Mark did not have this problem with the Mac VM because it is
a
little bit further along than the 2.4c VM for Windows?
On a related note, I read the FAQ on how to set up a headless swiki at
http://pbl.cc.gatech.edu:8080/myswiki.285
but it seems to be a little Unix-oriented. Can anyone give me some pointers on setting up a headless Swiki on NT (i.e. as a service?). Do I really have to recompile the VM? I use NT every day, but that doesn't mean I know anything about the OS :-). I've heard there's a tool with the
NT resource
kit for making standalone apps into services, but I've never used it.
Steve
-----Original Message----- From: Bijan Parsia [mailto:bparsia@email.unc.edu] Sent: August 26, 1999 7:32 AM To: swart@bigserver.com; squeak@cs.uiuc.edu Subject: RE: Problem with PWS and Squeak2.5
--On Thursday, August 26, 1999, 6:26 AM -0700 "Steve Wart" swart@home.com wrote:
I am having a similar problem with the 2.4c VM and the 2.5 image
on
NT.
This could be a newbie problem (as both Kellie and I are trying
this
for the first time), because of either not understanding the
documentation
or because something has changed that affects new swikis but
not existing
ones.
Or it could be a problem in using the 2.5 image with the 2.4c VM?
This is my personal guess. If you could try it with a 2.4 image, that would help enormously.
(I *believe* the 2.5 image & vm have some "conditional"
support for new
socket prims. I'm not sure that PWS is fully cognizant of them.)
Here are the steps I am following (from PWS howToStart)
- Download the Server folder from http://guzdial.cc.gatetech.edu/st/server.tar
- Untar into a directory called Server in Squeak's working
directory
- Change ServerAction(class)>>serverDirectory as required
- [PWS initializeAll]
- Create a subdirectory in Server folder (I called it 'fortune')
- [SwikiAction setUp: 'fortune']
- [PWS serveOnPort: 8080 loggingTo: 'swiki-log.txt'] fork
Quick point. "fork" is unnecessary, and, indeed, doesn't do
anything.
But given that it *looks* like a problem with processes, you might
try
it
without forking and see what happens.
Also, try starting up PWS *after* initializeAll but *without*
SwikiAction
setup. My guess is that you'll get the crash, but it'd be nice to
confirm.
I strongly recommend working with an older PWS first!
Cheers, Bijan.
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