From England with humor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4s71SfkZfg&feature=related

Somebody will understand it :D

Arriba España!!!! Nosotros podemos.....quedarnos en cuartos como siempre :P

El 06/06/2008, a las 21:42, Edgar J. De Cleene escribió:

El 6/6/08 1:06 PM, "Göran Krampe" goran@krampe.se escribió:

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Hi folks!

(This is a reminder - perhaps folks missed my previous post so this time I added "[ANN]" - almost noone from the Squeak community have joined up and previous years quite a lot of people did.)

2 years has passed and it is time to go crazy over soccer again! The european championship is about to start in exactly 24 hours and the little betting site I built 6 years ago (in Squeak3.9/HttpView2) is once again up and running!

So drop by, place the bets and join up to see how it goes. No official prizes :) are set - but who knows. IMPORTANT: You got 24 hours to bet until the group play betting game closes! There are two other betting games though that are continuous so you can join later.

http://em2008.krampe.se/eng

regards, Göran

PS. Will post a followup later on describing how we used the translation mechanism in Squeak to make the site in both english and swedish.

We in Argentina always like good soccer. Me always support Sweden in Euro cup as the shirt is almost the same as the alternative one of me beloved Rosario Central.

http://101greatgoals.magnify.net/item/NPP38Y356PMZJW11

Maybe you could release the code of the site this time ?

Edgar

I am sorry it has taken so long... they all turned out to be simpler than expected.

1. The corrupted instVars bug - sorted : thanks to Matthews investigative work it turned out to be a really simple fix.

2. The FFI doesnt load bug - sorted : thanks to Andreas for his inspiration as to how to fix that.

The best way to load FFI is (because it includes the prequisite fix for NetNameResolver)...

Start with LevelPlayingField see http://installer.pbwiki.com/LevelPlayingField

Installer install: 'Packages'. Installer sake addPackage: 'FFI'; install.

enjoy because MC1.5 has finally made it to what I had intended all along, and it passes Lukas' nasty test case.

Keith

Do anybody agree for a reinclusion of MC1.5 in squeak-dev 3.10 images?

On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 5:34 AM, Keith Hodges keith_hodges@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

I am sorry it has taken so long... they all turned out to be simpler than expected.

1. The corrupted instVars bug - sorted : thanks to Matthews investigative

work it turned out to be a really simple fix.

2. The FFI doesnt load bug - sorted : thanks to Andreas for his inspiration

as to how to fix that.

The best way to load FFI is (because it includes the prequisite fix for NetNameResolver)...

Start with LevelPlayingField see http://installer.pbwiki.com/LevelPlayingField

Installer install: 'Packages'. Installer sake addPackage: 'FFI'; install.

enjoy because MC1.5 has finally made it to what I had intended all along, and it passes Lukas' nasty test case.

Keith

On 9-Nov-08, at 7:47 AM, Jason Johnson wrote:

How close is MC 2?

MC2 is here. The current release is 2.0.29. Download it from:

http://www.wiresong.ca/static/releases/Monticello-current.zip

Now, MC2 is still fairly early in it's adoption curve. Early adopters are using it for production work, but we're still finding bugs and usability issues on a regular basis. On the other hand, it's faster than MC1.x and has some new features. It's certainly not ready for mass adoption by all users of MC1.0 and 1.5.

I expect we'll see a gradual maturing of MC2 over the next couple of years and a corresponding growth in the user base, just as we did for MC1.0. There isn't really a moment when we can say that MC2 is "done," it's more a question of whether the feature set, performance, stability, documentation and support community meet your needs.

Colin

Jason Johnson wrote:

On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 8:06 PM, Colin Putney cputney@wiresong.ca wrote:

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On 9-Nov-08, at 7:47 AM, Jason Johnson wrote:

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How close is MC 2?

MC2 is here. The current release is 2.0.29. Download it from:

Yea, I knew it had been released. I meant more in the sense of how close to being the main revision system (which you also answered).

Thanks, Jason

MC1 and MC2 are different animals. MC2 offers the potential of a different workflow, and more flexibility. This means that much of the process for using MC2, and the tools to support the process is still being worked upon.

However MC1.5 is intended to be the culmination, the zenith, of all things MC1, with bugs ironed out, supporting all of the exisitng mcz files out there, in all of the images that the community uses, to the best of its ability. As a further step, MC1.6 adds Atomic loading, a feature which will follow in MC2 fairly shortly afterwards.

FYI: PackageInfo used by MC1.5 is 6-8x faster than in MC1 and the loader in MC1.6 is 3x faster than the loader in MC1.5.

So MC2 is a replacement for MC1 as and when your process is requires it. MC1.5/6 will hang around in the background as the good old reliable workhorse for everyone else.

best regards

Keith

p.s. The goal for MC1.7 if it happens will include binary (instant?) loading. So no MC1.0 is not yet dead.