Dear Squeakers,
Is Squeak 3.10 still maintained in the sense that bugs are fixed? lf yes, who is the maintainer? In other words: Who has the password to upload new images to ftp.squeak.org/3.10? If I remember correctly 3.8 and 3.9 were maintained like that.
I also wonder what is the best filter to use on Mantis to find all open bugs in the latest 3.10.2 image, i.e. the one newbies download as the latest stable release.
Cheers, Bernhard
"Bernhard" == Bernhard Pieber bernhard@pieber.com writes:
Bernhard> Is Squeak 3.10 still maintained in the sense that bugs are fixed? lf yes, who Bernhard> is the maintainer? In other words: Who has the password to upload new Bernhard> images to ftp.squeak.org/3.10? If I remember correctly 3.8 and 3.9 were Bernhard> maintained like that.
3.10.2 is the latest "production" Squeak, and is currently frozen so that we can create Squeak 4.0 from it, which will be the first clean-licensed version of Squeak. We expect this work will complete soon.
After that, a 4.1 release will come out shortly, based on 3.11-ish images, which will have maintenance tools so that we can start fixing bugs again.
Thanks for the clarification!
Cheers, Bernhard
Am 14.04.2009 um 02:48 schrieb Randal L. Schwartz:
"Bernhard" == Bernhard Pieber bernhard@pieber.com writes:
Bernhard> Is Squeak 3.10 still maintained in the sense that bugs are fixed? lf yes, who Bernhard> is the maintainer? In other words: Who has the password to upload new Bernhard> images to ftp.squeak.org/3.10? If I remember correctly 3.8 and 3.9 were Bernhard> maintained like that.
3.10.2 is the latest "production" Squeak, and is currently frozen so that we can create Squeak 4.0 from it, which will be the first clean-licensed version of Squeak. We expect this work will complete soon.
After that, a 4.1 release will come out shortly, based on 3.11-ish images, which will have maintenance tools so that we can start fixing bugs again.
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Hi Randal,
I have a follow up question: So if someone wanted to contribute to Squeak now the version to do that in would be 3.11, right?
Thanks for your support!
Bernhard
Am 14.04.2009 um 02:48 schrieb Randal L. Schwartz:
"Bernhard" == Bernhard Pieber bernhard@pieber.com writes:
Bernhard> Is Squeak 3.10 still maintained in the sense that bugs are fixed? lf yes, who Bernhard> is the maintainer? In other words: Who has the password to upload new Bernhard> images to ftp.squeak.org/3.10? If I remember correctly 3.8 and 3.9 were Bernhard> maintained like that.
3.10.2 is the latest "production" Squeak, and is currently frozen so that we can create Squeak 4.0 from it, which will be the first clean-licensed version of Squeak. We expect this work will complete soon.
After that, a 4.1 release will come out shortly, based on 3.11-ish images, which will have maintenance tools so that we can start fixing bugs again.
-- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 merlyn@stonehenge.com URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion
"Bernhard" == Bernhard Pieber bernhard@pieber.com writes:
Bernhard> I have a follow up question: So if someone wanted to contribute to Bernhard> Squeak now the version to do that in would be 3.11, right?
Actually, the most critically needed resources are on the 4.0 licensing effort, because nothing new can really happen until that's done, and some coding will likely be required to finish the task. Matthew Fulmer is currently the point of contact on that, but he's been busy the past few weeks with finals.
2009/4/26 Randal L. Schwartz merlyn@stonehenge.com:
Actually, the most critically needed resources are on the 4.0 licensing effort, because nothing new can really happen until that's done, and some coding will likely be required to finish the task. Matthew Fulmer is currently the point of contact on that, but he's been busy the past few weeks with finals.
Does it mean there is no 4.0 vm/image/source available to foul around? I have looked on the ftp but there is only the 4.0 relicensing files you were writing about.
Ian.
Thanks for your fast response, Randal.
I had jumped to the conclusion 3.11 was the version to contribute to because I had found the following: http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2009-February/134083....
We are currently awaiting legal advice from the Software Freedom Law Center [3]. It is recommended that you avoid contributing to the relicensing effort pending further notice
Did I miss the notice?
Cheers, Bernhard
Am 26.04.2009 um 21:40 schrieb Randal L. Schwartz:
Actually, the most critically needed resources are on the 4.0 licensing effort, because nothing new can really happen until that's done, and some coding will likely be required to finish the task. Matthew Fulmer is currently the point of contact on that, but he's been busy the past few weeks with finals.
"Bernhard" == Bernhard Pieber bernhard@pieber.com writes:
Bernhard> Did I miss the notice?
At this point, I've been trying to work with Matthew directly, so I apologize for not keeping squeak-dev up to date, since it all has to go through Matthew for coordination.
We are to prepare a 2-3 page summary of the state of things, and known problems, for Bradley Kuhn (of the SFC) to evaluate. This is expected to begin an interactive process of Bradley auditing the work completed so far, and providing advice for any remaining outstanding items. When Bradley is satisfied, he'll support our final report to the SFLC's legal team for acceptance.
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