I don't know much about Monticello Configurations, but I can tell you that MC2 isn't ready for production use yet. The current release is just a preview.

I played a bit with MC2 yesterday, just to get my head onto something else. I quickly hacked together some things I was always missing (e.g versioning external files) in MC1 to see how the new model works. It is just great! I also made it work on 3.9 (without traits for the moment), mostly related to changed code in CodeEditor.

Colin, from reading your blog-posts (eagerly awaiting more) and the implementation I assume that one of the goals of MC2 is to provide a cross platform source-management system? I think this is really needed and would help a lot of projects. How do you handle concepts that do not exist in all Smalltalk implementations, such as Namespaces, Packages, etc? Can we discuss (maybe by private mail) about a client/server protocol to be used for the next version of SqueakSource (or better SmalltalkSource)?

Cheers, Lukas

From: Bert Freudenberg Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 8:13 AM

Am 01.06.2006 um 02:28 schrieb Ron Teitelbaum:

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Does anyone have a fix for MCMcmReader>>loadVersionInfo

I'm trying to use Monticello configurations and I get a subClassResponsiblity error when trying to read a mcm file.

This was fixed in MonticelloConfigurations-bf.34.mcz sometime back in November last year.

It is available from

http://source.impara.de/mc.html

Also, the latest version of Monticello there fixes a problem with lost methods when loading multiple packages at once (like when using dependencies, or configurations).

Thanks Bert,

I tried loading the latest MC and then the configurations and got an error. When you load the latest MC it appears that the method PackageInfo>>methods is removed. Loading MonticelloConfigurations fails on snapshot. I tried it backwards loading the configurations first and that worked.

Shouldn't this be harvested for 3.9?

Ron

From: Bert Freudenberg [mailto:bert@impara.de] Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 10:22 AM

Am 01.06.2006 um 15:23 schrieb Ron Teitelbaum:

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From: Bert Freudenberg Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 8:13 AM

Am 01.06.2006 um 02:28 schrieb Ron Teitelbaum:

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Does anyone have a fix for MCMcmReader>>loadVersionInfo

I'm trying to use Monticello configurations and I get a subClassResponsiblity error when trying to read a mcm file.

This was fixed in MonticelloConfigurations-bf.34.mcz sometime back in November last year.

It is available from

http://source.impara.de/mc.html

Also, the latest version of Monticello there fixes a problem with lost methods when loading multiple packages at once (like when using dependencies, or configurations).

Thanks Bert,

I tried loading the latest MC and then the configurations and got an error. When you load the latest MC it appears that the method PackageInfo>>methods is removed.

That's odd. I use the PackageInfo-Base package from that repository and it has the #methods method. Who would remove it, and why?

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Loading MonticelloConfigurations fails on snapshot. I tried it backwards loading the configurations first and that worked.

Shouldn't this be harvested for 3.9?

Yes, it should. I'm working in 3.8, though, so I haven't noticed any misbehavior.

It appears that the changes to PackageInfo-Base. I loaded that and it put back methods. But there is still a problem.

With Monticello-bf.279 MonticelloConfigurations-bf.39 PackageInfo-Base-bf.22

Loaded into 3.9b-7032 the method:

PackageInfo>>classDefinition:with: called from PackageInfo>>doIt:

is missing.

- Ron

Am 01.06.2006 um 17:23 schrieb Ron Teitelbaum:

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From: Ron Teitelbaum

It appears that the changes to PackageInfo-Base. I loaded that and it put back methods. But there is still a problem.

With Monticello-bf.279 MonticelloConfigurations-bf.39 PackageInfo-Base-bf.22

Loaded into 3.9b-7032 the method:

PackageInfo>>classDefinition:with: called from PackageInfo>>doIt:

is missing.

I should have said: FilePackage>>classDefinition:with: called from FilePackage>>doIt:

I first couldn't make sense of you were meanin, because in 3.8, these are just regular FilePackage methods.

But I just had a look at 3.9. It appears someone *moved* them into Monticello which is a Bad Idea. AFAICT there's nothing MC specific in there. If anything, they should have been an override, but I wonder why they are in the MC package at all. Too bad there is no method history in the 3.9 images ...

- Bert -

On Jun 1, 2006, at 17:45 , Bert Freudenberg wrote:

Am 01.06.2006 um 17:23 schrieb Ron Teitelbaum:

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From: Ron Teitelbaum

It appears that the changes to PackageInfo-Base. I loaded that and it put back methods. But there is still a problem.

With Monticello-bf.279 MonticelloConfigurations-bf.39 PackageInfo-Base-bf.22

Loaded into 3.9b-7032 the method:

PackageInfo>>classDefinition:with: called from PackageInfo>>doIt:

is missing.

I should have said: FilePackage>>classDefinition:with: called from FilePackage>>doIt:

I first couldn't make sense of you were meanin, because in 3.8, these are just regular FilePackage methods.

But I just had a look at 3.9. It appears someone *moved* them into Monticello which is a Bad Idea. AFAICT there's nothing MC specific in there. If anything, they should have been an override, but I wonder why they are in the MC package at all. Too bad there is no method history in the 3.9 images ...

I moved those methods to the MC package while enhancing MC to support traits (because this made it more convenient to work with changes in many different packages). A couple of months ago I've moved those methods back to where they belong, however, those changes do not seem to be integrated in 3.9 yet. That's why those methods are just removed when you load another MC package.

PackageInfo>>classDefinition:with: on the other hand is still in MC. I'll fix that...

Adrian