Hello all,
SqueakMap seems to be taking off nicely, and it is a nice way to grab goodies. However, I still come back to the problem of starting from scratch. Dolphin's commercial origins force the issue with each release, but it's also a nice sanity check on whether or not I know what is in my image. Are there any good tools for deciding what to load into a new image? I encourage and Dolphin-using Squeakers to take a look at Migrate from my Dolphin Goodies - especially the version packaged for D5. I would really like to see something like it for Squeak.
The other issue, mentioned before, is that SM seems to favor downloading over locally cached copies. Ideally, it should offer to download updates, but be willing to load packages from the local drive. Has that been addressed?
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bills@anest4.anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029
Hi!
"Bill Schwab" bills@an4.anest.ufl.edu wrote:
Hello all,
SqueakMap seems to be taking off nicely, and it is a nice way to grab goodies. However, I still come back to the problem of starting from scratch. Dolphin's commercial origins force the issue with each release, but it's also a nice sanity check on whether or not I know what is in my image. Are there any good tools for deciding what to load into a new image? I encourage and Dolphin-using Squeakers to take a look at Migrate from my Dolphin Goodies - especially the version packaged for D5. I would really like to see something like it for Squeak.
I will see if I get time to have a look, a bit swamped right now.
The other issue, mentioned before, is that SM seems to favor downloading over locally cached copies. Ideally, it should offer to download updates, but be willing to load packages from the local drive. Has that been addressed?
Yes, in the upcoming SM1.1 that bit is completely changed into a smart cache. And there is no real point in hacking SM1.0x since SM1.1 is different in other fundamental aspects - like dealing with not only packages but also package *releases*.
SM1.1 will not be coming until earliest late february though - I have a deadline to catch (fixed price job in Dolphin actually). But when it comes it will be much more interesting than the current SM, especially since it also will adress the dependency issues too.
regards, Göran
Hi!
"Bill Schwab" bills@an4.anest.ufl.edu wrote:
Hello all,
SqueakMap seems to be taking off nicely, and it is a nice way to grab goodies. However, I still come back to the problem of starting from scratch. Dolphin's commercial origins force the issue with each release, but it's also a nice sanity check on whether or not I know what is in my image. Are there any good tools for deciding what to load into a new image? I encourage and Dolphin-using Squeakers to take a look at Migrate from my Dolphin Goodies - especially the version packaged for D5. I would really like to see something like it for Squeak.
Hmmm, I am not sure what you mean here. What we do need to "shape up" is dependency handling in SM - and I have begun a bit on it according to plan. Could you briefly explain what Migrate does?
The other issue, mentioned before, is that SM seems to favor downloading over locally cached copies. Ideally, it should offer to download updates, but be willing to load packages from the local drive. Has that been addressed?
Eh, I thought it had. :) Could you explain more closely what you are observing? I thought the current SM uses the cached file if available.
Sidenote: I posted some code showing how to preload the cache recently, may 11th subject "SLOC in Squeak History". Note that for people making Squeak CDs etc, this is a way to populate the SM cache with the current latest releases.
regards, Göran
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