At 1:46 PM +0200 5/31/00, Stefan Matthias Aust wrote:

Regarding the web infrastructure, do you know Midgard (www.midgard-project.org). I don't suggest to use that tool, but I like the site layout and the ideas behind that tool. So I recommend to check it out. It's similar to ZOPE (www.zope.org) in its ideas and a free, opensourced web site application builder with an easy to use interface, built upon apache, php and mysql.

Bolot Kerimbaev, who's doing Comanche, is a major PHP fan. My guess is that the internals of Comanche already look like Midgard.

I do hope that squeakworld.com can keep to the "Back to the Future" mantra of "Everything in Squeak." For my students and me, I find that focus has enormous value -- at some level, it's all understandable and all inspectable and all explorable. But I do understand that a commercial entity has concerns other than educational, and you certainly have to balance out the Squeak ideals and what you need to do to keep the farm.

At 1:31 AM -0700 5/31/00, "G–ran" Hultgren wrote:

I was thinking of using CVS for content management - and it still might come handy for some things

• but a Swiki solution would be nicer, is this a rendered Swiki or

is the "public" side also served from Comanche? Is there any possibility that we could "borrow" your setup on csl as an example or something? I assume it can be quite tricky to get it configured. Comanche and Swiki-stuff does not really have a trackrecord of being over-documented... ;-) ;-)

CSL is not a rendered Swiki -- both sides are served from Comanche. The images and uploads are served from Apple PWS. CoWeb, believe it or not, is a simple Macintosh running OS 8.5. It was a 7100, but I think we've now upgraded that one to a 7600 with a G3 board in it.

I think that Jochen and Bolot would be willing to help configure squeakworld.com, and Bijan, Jochen, Bolot, and Lex are working on the documentation side. Take a look at Bijan's chapter at http://coweb.cc.gatech.edu/squeakbook/ as a starting point. (It's PWS-only right now, but I've seen demos from Bijan and Lex which suggest that it's expanding to cover more of Squeak networking.)

Mark

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