Hi all,
I played with the OLPC system image (http://tuttlesvc.teacherhosting.com/wordpress/?p=251) now and my feelings are quite puzzled - first of all, it seems like almost all GUI can be done using Squeak and it's big loss that we aren't able to offer Squeak in state when it can do this job :-(
You may see it here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwzCsOFxT-U&mode=related or here http://www.ivr-usability.com/olpc/olpc.html.
-- Pavel
Pavel Krivanek wrote:
I played with the OLPC system image (http://tuttlesvc.teacherhosting.com/wordpress/?p=251) now and my feelings are quite puzzled - first of all, it seems like almost all GUI can be done using Squeak and it's big loss that we aren't able to offer Squeak in state when it can do this job :-(
Actually there is quite a bit of work that would be required to get Squeak into the state where "it can do this job". About two years ago, when we had this discussion the main points were the ability to support various scripts (arabic, indic, thai etc) plus their appropriate input methods, the ability to integrate existing Linux-based applications, the availability of experienced Squeak programmers and then some. By the end of the day you have to admit that unless you're planning to go for an all-out Squeak approach it is more effective to use a stack like Sugar, with Linux, X11, Cairo, Pango at the bottom and Python to integrate various libraries and applications. For OLPC it was certainly the right decision given their goals, experience, and deadlines.
Cheers, - Andreas
On Nov 26, 2006, at 1:13 , Pavel Krivanek wrote:
Hi all,
I played with the OLPC system image (http://tuttlesvc.teacherhosting.com/wordpress/?p=251) now and my feelings are quite puzzled - first of all, it seems like almost all GUI can be done using Squeak and it's big loss that we aren't able to offer Squeak in state when it can do this job :-(
You may see it here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwzCsOFxT-U&mode=related or here http://www.ivr-usability.com/olpc/olpc.html.
Note that this video was recorded at 640x480, which is why the premade etoys projects do not work correctly. They require at least 1024x768 (the actual laptop runs at 1200x900).
- Bert -
You can see Sugar in action at the YouTube'd link on Friday's ./
- http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/11/24/1455220
Find a "Slightly better demo of the OLPC User Interface" when clicking the link "A video demo of the interface". Squeak+Etoys, here they come :)
Dunno whether this video had been mentioned before in squeak-dev.
/Klaus
On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 10:43:57 +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
On Nov 26, 2006, at 1:13 , Pavel Krivanek wrote:
Hi all,
I played with the OLPC system image (http://tuttlesvc.teacherhosting.com/wordpress/?p=251) now and my feelings are quite puzzled - first of all, it seems like almost all GUI can be done using Squeak and it's big loss that we aren't able to offer Squeak in state when it can do this job :-(
You may see it here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwzCsOFxT-U&mode=related or here http://www.ivr-usability.com/olpc/olpc.html.
Note that this video was recorded at 640x480, which is why the premade etoys projects do not work correctly. They require at least 1024x768 (the actual laptop runs at 1200x900).
- Bert -
That's the same video as
http://www.ivr-usability.com/olpc/olpc.html
just in youtube's typical awful quality.
- Bert -
On Nov 26, 2006, at 12:11 , Klaus D. Witzel wrote:
You can see Sugar in action at the YouTube'd link on Friday's ./
Find a "Slightly better demo of the OLPC User Interface" when clicking the link "A video demo of the interface". Squeak+Etoys, here they come :)
Dunno whether this video had been mentioned before in squeak-dev.
/Klaus
On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 10:43:57 +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
On Nov 26, 2006, at 1:13 , Pavel Krivanek wrote:
Hi all,
I played with the OLPC system image (http://tuttlesvc.teacherhosting.com/wordpress/?p=251) now and my feelings are quite puzzled - first of all, it seems like almost all GUI can be done using Squeak and it's big loss that we aren't able to offer Squeak in state when it can do this job :-(
You may see it here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwzCsOFxT-U&mode=related or here http://www.ivr-usability.com/olpc/olpc.html.
Note that this video was recorded at 640x480, which is why the premade etoys projects do not work correctly. They require at least 1024x768 (the actual laptop runs at 1200x900).
- Bert -
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