Updating the image from trunk currently fails in MCMethodDefinition>>initializeWithClassName:classIsMeta:selector:category:imteStamp:source: with UndefinedObject>>asSymbol not understood. The method in question is StandardFileMenu>>advance:containingDirectoriesFrom:
The method is defined and categorized in 'private'. When I do a 'implementors off ...' I get a followup error in TextMorphEditor>>setSearch: (UndefinedObject does not understand #asText). The result of 'model autoSelectString' is nil. I came to that through the method finder which actually lists 2 implementations, one in StandardFileMenu and one in StandardFileMenu class, but I can't find the one in the class, hence the implementors...
Running Debian/Linux amd64 with squeak-vm 3.10-6.
Does anybody know what I'm doing wrong? Or should be doing but aren't?
I'm new to this so I hope I got all the information.
Thanks, Markus
Markus,
I just updated my "2 day behind" image and it went through fine.
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Markus Lampert wrote:
When I do a 'implementors off ...' I get a followup error in TextMorphEditor>>setSearch: (UndefinedObject does not understand #asText).
Interestingly Morphic-ar.162 fixes exactly that. The SqueakDebug log only has the stack related to the "implementors of" failure.
Maybe try again, and at the time Monticello fails look at the SqueakDebug.log and see if the Monticello failure is in there. Then send that.
On 27.08.2009, at 17:18, Danie Roux wrote:
Markus,
I just updated my "2 day behind" image and it went through fine.
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Markus Lampert wrote:
When I do a 'implementors off ...' I get a followup error in TextMorphEditor>>setSearch: (UndefinedObject does not understand #asText).
Interestingly Morphic-ar.162 fixes exactly that. The SqueakDebug log only has the stack related to the "implementors of" failure.
Maybe try again, and at the time Monticello fails look at the SqueakDebug.log and see if the Monticello failure is in there. Then send that.
Maybe close the text windows you opened and update again?
- Bert -
I have indeed one text window open. I'm hesitant to close it though since I did some manual formatting in the file and would hate to have to do that again. Is there a way to maintain the formatting over saving and reading again?
Thanks for all the pointers!
Have fun, Markus
----- Original Message ---- From: Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:24:13 AM Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Loading morphic-ar.162 fails
On 27.08.2009, at 17:18, Danie Roux wrote:
Markus,
I just updated my "2 day behind" image and it went through fine.
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Markus Lampert wrote:
When I do a 'implementors off ...' I get a followup error in TextMorphEditor>>setSearch: (UndefinedObject does not understand #asText).
Interestingly Morphic-ar.162 fixes exactly that. The SqueakDebug log only has the stack related to the "implementors of" failure.
Maybe try again, and at the time Monticello fails look at the SqueakDebug.log and see if the Monticello failure is in there. Then send that.
Maybe close the text windows you opened and update again?
- Bert -
Simply entering a new project before updating should work as well.
- Bert -
On 27.08.2009, at 19:10, Markus Lampert wrote:
I have indeed one text window open. I'm hesitant to close it though since I did some manual formatting in the file and would hate to have to do that again. Is there a way to maintain the formatting over saving and reading again?
Thanks for all the pointers!
Have fun, Markus
----- Original Message ---- From: Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:24:13 AM Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Loading morphic-ar.162 fails
On 27.08.2009, at 17:18, Danie Roux wrote:
Markus,
I just updated my "2 day behind" image and it went through fine.
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Markus Lampert wrote:
When I do a 'implementors off ...' I get a followup error in TextMorphEditor>>setSearch: (UndefinedObject does not understand #asText).
Interestingly Morphic-ar.162 fixes exactly that. The SqueakDebug log only has the stack related to the "implementors of" failure.
Maybe try again, and at the time Monticello fails look at the SqueakDebug.log and see if the Monticello failure is in there. Then send that.
Maybe close the text windows you opened and update again?
- Bert -
Now that's an interesting suggestion that had not occurred to me. Is there some way we could leverage this fact to avoid this sort of problem in the future, it seems to have come up more than once already.
On the one hand perhaps the updating logic could create a new temporary project and enter it before starting the update then exit and delete it when the update is complete? Alternatively could the logic do some subset of what happens when a new project is entered but as effective for this purpose? On the third hand does atomic loading address this problem more effectively and more directly?
Ken
On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 23:05 +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
Simply entering a new project before updating should work as well.
- Bert -
On 27.08.2009, at 19:10, Markus Lampert wrote:
I have indeed one text window open. I'm hesitant to close it though since I did some manual formatting in the file and would hate to have to do that again. Is there a way to maintain the formatting over saving and reading again?
Thanks for all the pointers!
Have fun, Markus
On 28.08.2009, at 00:08, Ken Causey wrote:
Now that's an interesting suggestion that had not occurred to me. Is there some way we could leverage this fact to avoid this sort of problem in the future, it seems to have come up more than once already.
On the one hand perhaps the updating logic could create a new temporary project and enter it before starting the update then exit and delete it when the update is complete?
Maybe, but it smells like an evil hack.
Alternatively could the logic do some subset of what happens when a new project is entered but as effective for this purpose?
Possibly, but it'd be an even more devilish hack.
On the third hand does atomic loading address this problem more effectively and more directly?
I'd think so, yes.
- Bert -
On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 23:05 +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
Simply entering a new project before updating should work as well.
- Bert -
On 27.08.2009, at 19:10, Markus Lampert wrote:
I have indeed one text window open. I'm hesitant to close it though since I did some manual formatting in the file and would hate to have to do that again. Is there a way to maintain the formatting over saving and reading again?
Thanks for all the pointers!
Have fun, Markus
On 28.08.2009, at 00:08, Ken Causey wrote:
Now that's an interesting suggestion that had not occurred to me. Is there some way we could leverage this fact to avoid this sort of problem in the future, it seems to have come up more than once already.
On the one hand perhaps the updating logic could create a new temporary project and enter it before starting the update then exit and delete it when the update is complete?
Maybe, but it smells like an evil hack.
Alternatively could the logic do some subset of what happens when a new project is entered but as effective for this purpose?
Possibly, but it'd be an even more devilish hack.
On the third hand does atomic loading address this problem more effectively and more directly?
I'd say so, yes.
- Bert -
I created a new morphic project, went into it and started the upload, still chokes at the same spot, log attached.
As a side note, the text window I have open is also in a project. Both projects (the only ones in this image) were created on the main desktop (New Changes). Originally I did all the upgrades from 'New Changes'. Other than the 'Load Code Update' button I have closed and removed everything else (including the flaps) that was open in the original image.
Have fun, Markus
----- Original Message ---- From: Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 2:05:48 PM Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Loading morphic-ar.162 fails
Simply entering a new project before updating should work as well.
- Bert -
On 27.08.2009, at 19:10, Markus Lampert wrote:
I have indeed one text window open. I'm hesitant to close it though since I did some manual formatting in the file and would hate to have to do that again. Is there a way to maintain the formatting over saving and reading again?
Thanks for all the pointers!
Have fun, Markus
----- Original Message ---- From: Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:24:13 AM Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Loading morphic-ar.162 fails
On 27.08.2009, at 17:18, Danie Roux wrote:
Markus,
I just updated my "2 day behind" image and it went through fine.
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Markus Lampert wrote:
When I do a 'implementors off ...' I get a followup error in TextMorphEditor>>setSearch: (UndefinedObject does not understand #asText).
Interestingly Morphic-ar.162 fixes exactly that. The SqueakDebug log only has the stack related to the "implementors of" failure.
Maybe try again, and at the time Monticello fails look at the SqueakDebug.log and see if the Monticello failure is in there. Then send that.
Maybe close the text windows you opened and update again?
- Bert -
Sorry, old age. This time with attachment ...
----- Original Message ---- From: Markus Lampert markuslampert@yahoo.com To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:53:17 PM Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Loading morphic-ar.162 fails
I created a new morphic project, went into it and started the upload, still chokes at the same spot, log attached.
As a side note, the text window I have open is also in a project. Both projects (the only ones in this image) were created on the main desktop (New Changes). Originally I did all the upgrades from 'New Changes'. Other than the 'Load Code Update' button I have closed and removed everything else (including the flaps) that was open in the original image.
Have fun, Markus
----- Original Message ---- From: Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 2:05:48 PM Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Loading morphic-ar.162 fails
Simply entering a new project before updating should work as well.
- Bert -
On 27.08.2009, at 19:10, Markus Lampert wrote:
I have indeed one text window open. I'm hesitant to close it though since I did some manual formatting in the file and would hate to have to do that again. Is there a way to maintain the formatting over saving and reading again?
Thanks for all the pointers!
Have fun, Markus
----- Original Message ---- From: Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:24:13 AM Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Loading morphic-ar.162 fails
On 27.08.2009, at 17:18, Danie Roux wrote:
Markus,
I just updated my "2 day behind" image and it went through fine.
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Markus Lampert wrote:
When I do a 'implementors off ...' I get a followup error in TextMorphEditor>>setSearch: (UndefinedObject does not understand #asText).
Interestingly Morphic-ar.162 fixes exactly that. The SqueakDebug log only has the stack related to the "implementors of" failure.
Maybe try again, and at the time Monticello fails look at the SqueakDebug.log and see if the Monticello failure is in there. Then send that.
Maybe close the text windows you opened and update again?
- Bert -
Guess you should remove the breakpoint in StandardFileMenu>>advance:containingDirectoriesFrom:.
Interesting bug. Wonder how to fix that ...
- Bert -
On 28.08.2009, at 01:54, Markus Lampert wrote:
Sorry, old age. This time with attachment ...
----- Original Message ---- From: Markus Lampert markuslampert@yahoo.com To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:53:17 PM Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Loading morphic-ar.162 fails
I created a new morphic project, went into it and started the upload, still chokes at the same spot, log attached.
As a side note, the text window I have open is also in a project. Both projects (the only ones in this image) were created on the main desktop (New Changes). Originally I did all the upgrades from 'New Changes'. Other than the 'Load Code Update' button I have closed and removed everything else (including the flaps) that was open in the original image.
Have fun, Markus
----- Original Message ---- From: Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 2:05:48 PM Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Loading morphic-ar.162 fails
Simply entering a new project before updating should work as well.
- Bert -
On 27.08.2009, at 19:10, Markus Lampert wrote:
I have indeed one text window open. I'm hesitant to close it though since I did some manual formatting in the file and would hate to have to do that again. Is there a way to maintain the formatting over saving and reading again?
Thanks for all the pointers!
Have fun, Markus
----- Original Message ---- From: Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:24:13 AM Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Loading morphic-ar.162 fails
On 27.08.2009, at 17:18, Danie Roux wrote:
Markus,
I just updated my "2 day behind" image and it went through fine.
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Markus Lampert wrote:
When I do a 'implementors off ...' I get a followup error in TextMorphEditor>>setSearch: (UndefinedObject does not understand #asText).
Interestingly Morphic-ar.162 fixes exactly that. The SqueakDebug log only has the stack related to the "implementors of" failure.
Maybe try again, and at the time Monticello fails look at the SqueakDebug.log and see if the Monticello failure is in there. Then send that.
Maybe close the text windows you opened and update again?
- Bert -
<SqueakDebug.log>
Ha, interesting indeed.
So, after finally finding which break you were talking about I had the same problem as mentioned before: StandardFileMenu class>>advance:containingDirectoriesFrom: does not exist, according to the Browser. So what I did was Object>>break 'senders of..' which brings up the elusive method.
Removing the break in the method browser, resetting the debugger and it works. Even more interesting, now the class method exists (without the break).
Thanks, Markus
----- Original Message ---- From: Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:04:30 PM Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Loading morphic-ar.162 fails
Guess you should remove the breakpoint in StandardFileMenu>>advance:containingDirectoriesFrom:.
Interesting bug. Wonder how to fix that ...
- Bert -
On 28.08.2009, at 01:54, Markus Lampert wrote:
Sorry, old age. This time with attachment ...
----- Original Message ---- From: Markus Lampert markuslampert@yahoo.com To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:53:17 PM Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Loading morphic-ar.162 fails
I created a new morphic project, went into it and started the upload, still chokes at the same spot, log attached.
As a side note, the text window I have open is also in a project. Both projects (the only ones in this image) were created on the main desktop (New Changes). Originally I did all the upgrades from 'New Changes'. Other than the 'Load Code Update' button I have closed and removed everything else (including the flaps) that was open in the original image.
Have fun, Markus
----- Original Message ---- From: Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 2:05:48 PM Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Loading morphic-ar.162 fails
Simply entering a new project before updating should work as well.
- Bert -
On 27.08.2009, at 19:10, Markus Lampert wrote:
I have indeed one text window open. I'm hesitant to close it though since I did some manual formatting in the file and would hate to have to do that again. Is there a way to maintain the formatting over saving and reading again?
Thanks for all the pointers!
Have fun, Markus
----- Original Message ---- From: Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:24:13 AM Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Loading morphic-ar.162 fails
On 27.08.2009, at 17:18, Danie Roux wrote:
Markus,
I just updated my "2 day behind" image and it went through fine.
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Markus Lampert wrote:
When I do a 'implementors off ...' I get a followup error in TextMorphEditor>>setSearch: (UndefinedObject does not understand #asText).
Interestingly Morphic-ar.162 fixes exactly that. The SqueakDebug log only has the stack related to the "implementors of" failure.
Maybe try again, and at the time Monticello fails look at the SqueakDebug.log and see if the Monticello failure is in there. Then send that.
Maybe close the text windows you opened and update again?
- Bert -
<SqueakDebug.log>
Hi Markus -
The problem with implementors has been fixed in the trunk. I'm not sure about the issue you are having with MCMethodDefinition, can you send a SqueakDebug.log for this problem as well?
Cheers, - Andreas
Markus Lampert wrote:
Updating the image from trunk currently fails in MCMethodDefinition>>initializeWithClassName:classIsMeta:selector:category:imteStamp:source: with UndefinedObject>>asSymbol not understood. The method in question is StandardFileMenu>>advance:containingDirectoriesFrom:
The method is defined and categorized in 'private'. When I do a 'implementors off ...' I get a followup error in TextMorphEditor>>setSearch: (UndefinedObject does not understand #asText). The result of 'model autoSelectString' is nil. I came to that through the method finder which actually lists 2 implementations, one in StandardFileMenu and one in StandardFileMenu class, but I can't find the one in the class, hence the implementors...
Running Debian/Linux amd64 with squeak-vm 3.10-6.
Does anybody know what I'm doing wrong? Or should be doing but aren't?
I'm new to this so I hope I got all the information.
Thanks, Markus
I'm currently not at my workstation but will get the log from the original issue tonight. Hadn't realized that the new issue overwrites the old one - getting better at this.
----- Original Message ---- From: Andreas Raab andreas.raab@gmx.de To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:43:14 AM Subject: [squeak-dev] Re: Loading morphic-ar.162 fails
Hi Markus -
The problem with implementors has been fixed in the trunk. I'm not sure about the issue you are having with MCMethodDefinition, can you send a SqueakDebug.log for this problem as well?
Cheers, - Andreas
Markus Lampert wrote:
Updating the image from trunk currently fails in MCMethodDefinition>>initializeWithClassName:classIsMeta:selector:category:imteStamp:source: with UndefinedObject>>asSymbol not understood. The method in question is StandardFileMenu>>advance:containingDirectoriesFrom:
The method is defined and categorized in 'private'. When I do a 'implementors off ...' I get a followup error in TextMorphEditor>>setSearch: (UndefinedObject does not understand #asText). The result of 'model autoSelectString' is nil. I came to that through the method finder which actually lists 2 implementations, one in StandardFileMenu and one in StandardFileMenu class, but I can't find the one in the class, hence the implementors...
Running Debian/Linux amd64 with squeak-vm 3.10-6.
Does anybody know what I'm doing wrong? Or should be doing but aren't?
I'm new to this so I hope I got all the information.
Thanks, Markus
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