Hi:
I ported a suitable version of Monticello to work on Squeak 3.4 images. This work was done to BluePlane, the Tansel Ersavas and John Magnifico company and on their name I'm announcing this. If someone is interested just drop a mail and I will send (or put to download) the .cs.
Cheers.
gsa.
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 09:20:01PM -0200, Germ?n Arduino wrote:
Hi:
I ported a suitable version of Monticello to work on Squeak 3.4 images. This work was done to BluePlane, the Tansel Ersavas and John Magnifico company and on their name I'm announcing this. If someone is interested just drop a mail and I will send (or put to download) the .cs.
Bravo! Perhaps you could upload the .cs to a page on the Swiki so this work will not be lost or overlooked. Thanks a lot.
Dave
The details and the download are availables at:
http://germanarduino.blogspot.com/2008/03/monticello-backport-to-squeak-34.h...
HTH. gsa.
2008/3/12, David T. Lewis lewis@mail.msen.com:
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 09:20:01PM -0200, Germ?n Arduino wrote:
Hi:
I ported a suitable version of Monticello to work on Squeak 3.4 images. This work was done to BluePlane, the Tansel Ersavas and John Magnifico company and on their name I'm announcing this. If someone is interested just drop a mail and I will send (or put to download) the .cs.
Bravo! Perhaps you could upload the .cs to a page on the Swiki so this work will not be lost or overlooked. Thanks a lot.
Dave
On 3/11/08, Germán Arduino garduino@gmail.com wrote:
I ported a suitable version of Monticello to work on Squeak 3.4 images. This work was done to BluePlane, the Tansel Ersavas and John Magnifico company and on their name I'm announcing this. If someone is interested just drop a mail and I will send (or put to download) the .cs.
So I'm curious - what else of the more recent dev tools will run on 3.4. OmniBrowser? Shout? Seaside? Anyone tried any of these?
Avi
On 13-Mar-08, at 6:40 AM, Avi Bryant wrote:
On 3/11/08, Germán Arduino garduino@gmail.com wrote:
I ported a suitable version of Monticello to work on Squeak 3.4 images. This work was done to BluePlane, the Tansel Ersavas and John Magnifico company and on their name I'm announcing this. If someone is interested just drop a mail and I will send (or put to download) the .cs.
So I'm curious - what else of the more recent dev tools will run on 3.4. OmniBrowser? Shout? Seaside? Anyone tried any of these?
A couple of years ago, OB ran on 3.5 and later. IIRC, there were some bugfixes that had to be loaded into 3.6 and earlier and I had a pre- load package that contained them. We've probably drifted since then, but I doubt it would take a lot of effort to get back to that level of compatibility, or to run on 3.4...
Colin
Avi Bryant wrote:
On 3/11/08, Germán Arduino garduino@gmail.com wrote:
I ported a suitable version of Monticello to work on Squeak 3.4 images. This work was done to BluePlane, the Tansel Ersavas and John Magnifico company and on their name I'm announcing this. If someone is interested just drop a mail and I will send (or put to download) the .cs.
So I'm curious - what else of the more recent dev tools will run on 3.4. OmniBrowser? Shout? Seaside? Anyone tried any of these?
Avi
Installer, and Sake/Packages should work with minimal effort.
Sake/Packages is the equivalent of universes, but it uses a standard browser as a UI, and manages the package definitions as methods on a class persisted in a monticello package.
There is no reason why 3.4 cannot be included in LevelPlayingField if someone wants to add it.
Keith
stephane ducasse wrote:
Hi keith
Sake/Packages is the equivalent of universes, but it uses a standard browser as a UI, and manages the package definitions as methods on a class persisted in a monticello package.
could you show me an example? Or point me to an example Stef
Sake is available at http://www.squeaksourcecom/Sake Have a browse of http://www.squeaksource.com/Packages
There is a different package for each version of squeak, i.e. Packages-Squeak3.10
The package definitions have just been updated, there is a task for reading the universe servers definitions into a class. At present this is a one way relationship, but this is useful since you can subclass PackagesSqueak310U to override the master universes definition to add your own.
Keith
Hi Germán,
I was wondering, is there particular a reason why you or (BluePlane) are still using Squeak 3.4?
Regards, Has.
On 3/12/08, Germán Arduino garduino@gmail.com wrote:
Hi:
I ported a suitable version of Monticello to work on Squeak 3.4 images. This work was done to BluePlane, the Tansel Ersavas and John Magnifico company and on their name I'm announcing this. If someone is interested just drop a mail and I will send (or put to download) the .cs.
Cheers.
gsa.
Hi Has:
May be the persons indicated to respond are Tansel or John. But I can say that a lot of work is done on such image, with the systems of BluePlane, but precisely the porting of Monticello is to permit migrate more easily to newest Squeak versions.
Cheers.
2008/3/16, Has van der Krieken xs4hkr@gmail.com:
Hi Germán,
I was wondering, is there particular a reason why you or (BluePlane) are still using Squeak 3.4?
Regards, Has.
On 3/12/08, Germán Arduino garduino@gmail.com wrote:
Hi:
I ported a suitable version of Monticello to work on Squeak 3.4 images. This work was done to BluePlane, the Tansel Ersavas and John Magnifico company and on their name I'm announcing this. If someone is interested just drop a mail and I will send (or put to download) the .cs.
Cheers.
gsa.
Hi Has,
3.4 is a legacy based on a older customer we have using our software.
We are in the process of migrating, but the question is what the base will be. We are very interested in Croquet as a base and also the recent work with the HydraVM. I suspect we will port to 3.8 first.
We are also working on tools that will allow our software to move to any vm version. Tansel can shed further light on this later on.
Cheers John
On 17/03/2008, Germán Arduino garduino@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Has:
May be the persons indicated to respond are Tansel or John. But I can say that a lot of work is done on such image, with the systems of BluePlane, but precisely the porting of Monticello is to permit migrate more easily to newest Squeak versions.
Cheers.
2008/3/16, Has van der Krieken xs4hkr@gmail.com:
Hi Germán,
I was wondering, is there particular a reason why you or (BluePlane) are still using Squeak 3.4?
Regards, Has.
On 3/12/08, Germán Arduino garduino@gmail.com wrote:
Hi:
I ported a suitable version of Monticello to work on Squeak 3.4 images. This work was done to BluePlane, the Tansel Ersavas and John Magnifico company and on their name I'm announcing this. If someone
is
interested just drop a mail and I will send (or put to download) the .cs.
Cheers.
gsa.
Hello John,
Thanks for answering that. I was suspecting that client support was a main reason for backporting. I'm into Squeak and Smalltalk since version 3.7. That's not so long. I can't judge over the progression and improvements that Squeak has made the last couple of years. When version 3.9 was released I had get to used to the look-and-feel of it. I was wondering if the die hard Squeakers have, for any reason, a favourite version.
Regards, Has.
On 3/27/08, John Magnifico john.magnifico@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Has,
3.4 is a legacy based on a older customer we have using our software.
We are in the process of migrating, but the question is what the base will be. We are very interested in Croquet as a base and also the recent work with the HydraVM. I suspect we will port to 3.8 first.
We are also working on tools that will allow our software to move to any vm version. Tansel can shed further light on this later on.
Cheers John
On 17/03/2008, Germán Arduino garduino@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Has:
May be the persons indicated to respond are Tansel or John. But I can say that a lot of work is done on such image, with the systems of BluePlane, but precisely the porting of Monticello is to permit migrate more easily to newest Squeak versions.
Cheers.
2008/3/16, Has van der Krieken xs4hkr@gmail.com:
Hi Germán,
I was wondering, is there particular a reason why you or (BluePlane) are still using Squeak 3.4?
Regards, Has.
On 3/12/08, Germán Arduino garduino@gmail.com wrote:
Hi:
I ported a suitable version of Monticello to work on Squeak 3.4 images. This work was done to BluePlane, the Tansel Ersavas and John Magnifico company and on their name I'm announcing this. If someone
is
interested just drop a mail and I will send (or put to download) the .cs.
Cheers.
gsa.
I don't believe to be a "die hard" squeaker but one that give big importance to the stability.
In such sense all my production projects are currently on 3.8 (and 1 or 2 on 3.7).
I don't think will invest time to migrate to 3.9, may be 3.10 or the next one, depending of the customer needs and the improvements I need.
To my own playing I'm using mostly 3.10.
HTH.
Germán.
2008/3/28, Has van der Krieken xs4hkr@gmail.com:
Hello John,
Thanks for answering that. I was suspecting that client support was a main reason for backporting. I'm into Squeak and Smalltalk since version 3.7. That's not so long. I can't judge over the progression and improvements that Squeak has made the last couple of years. When version 3.9 was released I had get to used to the look-and-feel of it. I was wondering if the die hard Squeakers have, for any reason, a favourite version.
Regards, Has.
On 3/27/08, John Magnifico john.magnifico@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Has,
3.4 is a legacy based on a older customer we have using our software.
We are in the process of migrating, but the question is what the base will be. We are very interested in Croquet as a base and also the recent work with the HydraVM. I suspect we will port to 3.8 first.
We are also working on tools that will allow our software to move to any vm version. Tansel can shed further light on this later on.
Cheers John
On 17/03/2008, Germán Arduino garduino@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Has:
May be the persons indicated to respond are Tansel or John. But I can say that a lot of work is done on such image, with the systems of BluePlane, but precisely the porting of Monticello is to permit migrate more easily to newest Squeak versions.
Cheers.
2008/3/16, Has van der Krieken xs4hkr@gmail.com:
Hi Germán,
I was wondering, is there particular a reason why you or (BluePlane) are still using Squeak 3.4?
Regards, Has.
On 3/12/08, Germán Arduino garduino@gmail.com wrote:
Hi:
I ported a suitable version of Monticello to work on Squeak 3.4 images. This work was done to BluePlane, the Tansel Ersavas and John Magnifico company and on their name I'm announcing this. If someone
is
interested just drop a mail and I will send (or put to download) the .cs.
Cheers.
gsa.
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