Hi all!

--- Stephan Rudlof sr@evolgo.de wrote: [SNIP]

...

Later, after this stable base existed, one could add all sorts of bells and whistles -- in a modular fashion.

What about realizing this building from scratch by using namespaces (Environments, btw: What's their status?):

• building a sub system *inside* Squeak in its own namespace named e.g.

'IndustrialStrength',

• modularizing it by creating sub-namespaces,
• move Classes/methods one after each other from the fat to

'IndustrialStrength'.

So we would develop a stable base *inside* the more experimental fat one, with all the tools currently available in the standard Squeak. The communication inside the community would be better, because there wouldn't be a decoupling of both developments.

This sounds like a VERY good idea. This will perhaps even develop an "urge" for people to bring their code up to the standard so that it can be moved into this more "sacred" place in Squeakland.

And developers that are roaming around the image looking for useful stuff will probably start to favor the codebase in "IndustrialStrength" especially if they are bulding stuff for deployment etc.

I like it. It sounds very natural to me. It almost sounds like mimicking the way the GC works! :-) :-)

The main problems - which I see here - would have a big social component, namely to manage the processes of

• the definition of the interfaces,
• the determination of the stability of different modules,
• definition of responsibilities:
  • for groups,
  • for persons?

Perhaps there could be a "halfwayhouse" where code can be added by "anyone", probably as a result from an informal interestpoll on the mailinglist, and then later moved into IndustrialStrength after a period of time and testing?

And how does this idea of yours stand up in regard to the purposes of the different releases (2.7/8/9 etc.)?

regards, G�ran

===== G�ran Hultgren, goran.hultgren@bluefish.se icq#:6136722, GSM: +46 709 472152, http://www.bluefish.se "First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win." -- Gandhi

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