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Re: New Squeak web page posted at UIUC
by Serg Koren 11 Jan '98

11 Jan '98

Hi, Feel free to put a link to my version of Squeak (1.24SK) on your site. http://www.VisualNewt.com/Mac/Squeak124.html Cheers, S ------------------------------------------------- VisualNewt Software: http://www.VisualNewt.com/ Maker of Newt'sPaper(tm) the Premier Newton(R) MessagePad(tm) News Reader. -------------------------------------------------

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Makefile quesion: #include "sq.h"
by Brian Wildasinn 10 Jan '98

10 Jan '98

I've got a Makefile question for Squeak-1.23c2: Does anyone know why sqFilePrims.o, sqSoundPrims.o, sqUnixNetwork.o, and sqXWindow.c apparently aren't reading in their header file "sq.h" so that the proper symbols are geting defined during compile time, such as: #make ... sqFilePrims.o: Undefined symbol `_success" referenced from text segment. [snip] The sq.h file definitions don't seem to be getting into the above files, though the #include "sq.h" is at the top of each file. A Squeak Makefile is needed, which I'm trying to do, to work on a NetBSD-1.3 unix system which has not yet got a port of Squeak. Ian Piumarta <piumarta(a)prof.inria.fr> helped me out with sqUnixConfig.h by suggesting to include the gcc generated system info through gcc -E -dM c.c, which gave the m68k specifics. --although the /* remarks */ header notes in sqUnixConfig.h mentions lots of "HAS_SOME_FUNCTION" stuff that most config scripts seem to deal with--or can those be used as compiler flags, eg, gcc -DHAS_SOME_FUNCTION=1? Anyway, Ian mentioned that nobody yet has created a config script for Squeak. Is that still the case? By the way, I've been using Squeak on this same exact m68k cpu box running on top of MacOS 7.5. Under NetBSD unix I've been tinkering with gnusmalltalk-1.1.5 blox and stix browsers. The former is a more robust class heirarcy browser than the demo-like, but quicker stix browsers. I'd like to compare unix gst and Squeak once they successfully port."./configure" works on gst, whereas Makefile for Squeak needs the "#include sq.h" resolved. Any help is appreciated! Sincerely, Brian Wildasinn bwildasi(a)csulb.edu

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A Full Allocation Rate
by guzdial＠cc.gatech.edu 08 Jan '98

08 Jan '98

This is mostly to Ian, but others may have advice or be interested in the answer: Ian, I'm using your SystemMonitor (startFull) on several of my systems, and on one, I'm maxing out the "alloc" (allocation rate?) bar. What does that mean? I know what maxing out the memory means -- buy more memory, allocate more to Squeak. What does maxing out allocation mean? Thanks! Mark -------------------------- Mark Guzdial : Georgia Tech : College of Computing : Atlanta, GA 30332-0280 (404) 894-5618 : Fax (404) 894-0673 : guzdial(a)cc.gatech.edu http://www.cc.gatech.edu/gvu/people/Faculty/Mark.Guzdial.html

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#isInteger
by sqrmax＠cvtci.com.ar 08 Jan '98

08 Jan '98

Hi. The method #isInteger is implemented the same way in Object and in Number. Is there any reason for this, like forced method caching or so? Shouldn't all the isSomething methods be implemented in Object as well? Andres.

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Re: Swiki in NT?
by guzdial＠cc.gatech.edu 07 Jan '98

07 Jan '98

We're going to try this ASAP. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! I *really* appreciate your digging into this! Swiki's have taken off here at Tech much faster than I expected -- we have *FOUR* classes using them, with three other classes requesting them, plus four more being used by various research groups. (Why? Ward's Wiki is just a marvelous idea, and Swiki is cheap and easy to run.) I'm running out of server capacity!!! Moving to NTs will help alot. Many thanks! Mark >Mark, > >> But I also replicated the problem that Noel Rappin and Georg Gollman had >> reported to me. It served once, then died. I stopped the server and >> restarted. It worked. Once. After a few times, it stopped working even >> after restart. I restarted on a new port. It worked. Once. I kept moving >> around the port numbers trying to figure out what was going on, when I >> stopped being able to access any files at all -- even the File List just >> reported something like "I can't access that file right now" for *ANY* >> file. I quit Squeak, restarted Squeak, and then, suddenly, it worked. >> Time after time. No server restart. > >I've looked into your problem and I _think_ that I've found the problem. >It seems that Socket>>primSocketSendDone: has to return false if the >socket is no longer connected (see Socket>>waitForSendDoneUntil:). > >This leads to a problem in Socket>>sendData: since if the connection is >closed by the client the process will hang there. You can try this very >easily by starting the PWS as foreground process and press the reload >button of your web browser twice. If you interrupt the PWS then you should >end up in an endless loop in Socket>>sendData: > >For now, the easiest fix seems to be changing the return statement of >Socket>>waitForSendDoneUntil: into > > ^sendDone and:[self isConnected] > >I'll change it in the next VM version. Please let me know if this solves >your problem. > >Hope this helps, > Andreas > >PS. I've tried Swiki on various Windows versions (Win95, NT3.51, NT4) and >except from the above it worked quite nicely. > >-- >Linear algebra is your friend - Trigonometry is your enemy. >+===== Andreas Raab ============= (raab(a)isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de) =====+ >I Department of Simulation and Graphics Phone: +49 391 671 8065 I >I University of Magdeburg, Germany Fax: +49 391 671 1164 I >+=============< http://isgwww.cs.uni-magdeburg.de/~raab >=============+ -------------------------- Mark Guzdial : Georgia Tech : College of Computing : Atlanta, GA 30332-0280 (404) 894-5618 : Fax (404) 894-0673 : guzdial(a)cc.gatech.edu http://www.cc.gatech.edu/gvu/people/Faculty/Mark.Guzdial.html

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Re: bug in someInstance (?)
by Serg Koren 07 Jan '98

07 Jan '98

Hi, Could you please send me the fix so I can include it in my version of Squeak? Thanks much, Serg Koren ----- Frank Zdybel said: >I don't know whether this has already been fixed >in subsequent versions of Squeak, but as late as >v. 1.2 primitiveSomeInstance had a bug in it, to >wit in the event of primitive failure the imple- >mentation did not restore the state of the stack >properly by re-pushing the original argument. > >frank > > ----------------------------------------------------------- VisualNewt Software: http://www.VisualNewt.com/ Maker of Newt'sPaper(tm) the Premier Newton(R) MessagePad(tm) News Reader. ----------------------------------------------------------- Squeak1.24SK: http://www.VisualNewt.com/Mac/Squeak124.html -----------------------------------------------------------

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Re: http://web.inter.nl.net/users/R.L.J.M.W.van.Loon/html/squeak.html
by Les Tyrrell 07 Jan '98

07 Jan '98

Good stuff! Saw that you are thinking of a user interface where the class hierarchy browser and file browser look the same. Perhaps the work I'm doing is of interest- http://www.canis.uiuc.edu/~tyrrell/Oasis/Preview/preview.html This is a boilerplate testbed. It's not meant to look pretty, it's just to get the underlying infrastructure worked out. This is not the only way this system could appear- in fact, the two views shown are both generic, independent of thier contents. The contents, not the views, determine the "application". This is one of about a dozen "applications" currently using various incarnations of this same infrastructure. Les Tyrrell tyrrell(a)canis.uiuc.edu

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bug in someInstance (?)
by Frank Zdybel 07 Jan '98

07 Jan '98

I don't know whether this has already been fixed in subsequent versions of Squeak, but as late as v. 1.2 primitiveSomeInstance had a bug in it, to wit in the event of primitive failure the imple- mentation did not restore the state of the stack properly by re-pushing the original argument. frank

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Re: Web Server
by Dwight Hughes 06 Jan '98

06 Jan '98

Georg Gollman has his Squeak WebServer code available at: http://ftp.tuwien.ac.at/~go/Squeak/ Another Squeak webserver is Tim Jones' WebTalk, but you would have to get it from the Create FTP site (which has been down several days) or Tim at tim(a)thregecy.com . -- Dwight -----Original Message----- From: Mike Klein <mike(a)twinsun.com> To: squeak(a)cs.uiuc.edu <squeak(a)cs.uiuc.edu> Date: Tuesday, January 06, 1998 3:30 PM Subject: Re: Web Server | |> From vassili(a)objectpeople.com Tue Jan 6 06:41:34 1998 | |> Hi Mike, |> |> The web server is at CREATE (and probably other Squeak archives) under |> Applications. What would pass for an archive of Squeak code is also there |> under Goodies. | |The server at: | | ftp://ftp.create.ucsb.edu/pub/Smalltalk/Squeak/ | |is not functioning correctly. | |Transcript: | | |{alumnae:8} ftp ftp.create.ucsb.edu |Connected to tango.create.ucsb.edu. |220 tango FTP server (Version wu-2.4.2-academ[BETA-13](1) Sat Aug 2 05:42:23 PDT 1997) ready. |Name (ftp.create.ucsb.edu:mklein): anonymous |331 Guest login ok, send your complete e-mail address as password. |Password: |230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply. |ftp> ls |200 PORT command successful. |425 Can't create data socket (0.0.0.0,20): Bad file number. |ftp> pwd |257 "/" is current directory. |ftp> cd pub |250 CWD command successful. |ftp> ls |200 PORT command successful. |425 Can't create data socket (0.0.0.0,20): Bad file number. |ftp> quit |221 Goodbye. |{alumnae:9} |

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Re: Web Server
by Mike Klein 06 Jan '98

06 Jan '98

> From vassili(a)objectpeople.com Tue Jan 6 06:41:34 1998 > Hi Mike, > > The web server is at CREATE (and probably other Squeak archives) under > Applications. What would pass for an archive of Squeak code is also there > under Goodies. The server at: ftp://ftp.create.ucsb.edu/pub/Smalltalk/Squeak/ is not functioning correctly. Transcript: {alumnae:8} ftp ftp.create.ucsb.edu Connected to tango.create.ucsb.edu. 220 tango FTP server (Version wu-2.4.2-academ[BETA-13](1) Sat Aug 2 05:42:23 PDT 1997) ready. Name (ftp.create.ucsb.edu:mklein): anonymous 331 Guest login ok, send your complete e-mail address as password. Password: 230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply. ftp> ls 200 PORT command successful. 425 Can't create data socket (0.0.0.0,20): Bad file number. ftp> pwd 257 "/" is current directory. ftp> cd pub 250 CWD command successful. ftp> ls 200 PORT command successful. 425 Can't create data socket (0.0.0.0,20): Bad file number. ftp> quit 221 Goodbye. {alumnae:9}

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