Squeak-dev July 2015

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Re: how do we get at the mail archives?
by Chris Cunnington 18 Jul '15

18 Jul '15

http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2007-July/118834.html <http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2007-July/118834.html> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2006-August/107429.h… <http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2006-August/107429.h…> Renumbered. Yikes. That’s an unsettling thought. The difference between the your false and true link is #189. I subtracted that from Eliot’s starting place and came up with the the above link. It links to another also provided above. The topic of both is “image freezing”. FWIW, Chris >They were renumbered somehow. If you click the link Dave Lewis posts in this >message: >http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/vm-dev/2010-January/003813.html <http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/vm-dev/2010-January/003813.html> >you get a 404 error. It should point to >http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2010-January/143652.… <http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2010-January/143652.…> >It may mean someone deleted some messages from the mbox and reindexed them >between when the messages were written and now. Chris Cunnington-4 wrote > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2007-August/119023.h… <http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2007-August/119023.h…> > <http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2007-August/119023.html> <http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2007-August/119023.h…> > > This may be what you’re looking for. It has the number #119023 in the > month subsequent to your link. > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2007-July/119023.html <http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2007-July/119023.html> > <http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2007-July/119023.html> <http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2007-July/119023.htm…> > > Perhaps the reason your link goes nowhere is because it really does just > that — go nowhere. > > Each email is numbered: so #119022 is before #119023 and followed by > #119024. It is possible somebody wrote down the URL wrong. It’s possible > (though highly unlikely as every email is a numbered file on disk) that > the files were renumbered. At any rate there is no #119023 possible for > the month of July 2007 as that month starts with #118020 and ends with > #118995 as clicking on any email will demonstrate: > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2007-July/date.html <http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2007-July/date.html> > <http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2007-July/date.html> <http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2007-July/date.html&…> > > FWIW, > Chris

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how do we get at the mail archives?
by Chris Cunnington 18 Jul '15

18 Jul '15

http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2007-August/119023.h… <http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2007-August/119023.h…> This may be what you’re looking for. It has the number #119023 in the month subsequent to your link. http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2007-July/119023.html <http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2007-July/119023.html> Perhaps the reason your link goes nowhere is because it really does just that — go nowhere. Each email is numbered: so #119022 is before #119023 and followed by #119024. It is possible somebody wrote down the URL wrong. It’s possible (though highly unlikely as every email is a numbered file on disk) that the files were renumbered. At any rate there is no #119023 possible for the month of July 2007 as that month starts with #118020 and ends with #118995 as clicking on any email will demonstrate: http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2007-July/date.html <http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2007-July/date.html> FWIW, Chris

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cogspurlinuxht under daemontools
by Chris Muller 16 Jul '15

16 Jul '15

I am having trouble using the "HT" version of the Spur VM under daemontools. When the daemon attempts to launch the image it gets the familiar pthread error: pthread_setschedparam failed: Operation not permitted Read e.g. http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r3370/README.3370 however, I *definitely* have my /etc/security/limits.d/squeak.conf file set up as instructed (been working fine for ages), and in fact I'm able to run the same image with the same startup script under the same uidgid manually. (e.g., I'm able to cut-n-paste the line from my "run" script into the terminal and it works fine...) exec setuidgid magma /usr/local/bin/spur -vm display=none server-spur.image $DIR/run.st `cat port` ... but when daemontools runs it, gets the pthread error. Weird! Any ideas?

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4.6 All-in-One updated
by Chris Muller 16 Jul '15

16 Jul '15

Craig updated the Mac VM inside the All-in-One and signed it. I've uploaded and I just noticed the package was several MB smaller than the 4.5. This is accounted for by the lack of several plugin bundles that were included in the 4.5 All-in-One, but not in this latest one. Is this okay? Some of the missing include CurlPlugin, FT2, IA32ABI, Kedama, Locale, mpeg3, ObjectiveC, printJob, Quicktime, Rome, SerialExtendedUnix, Services, Spelling and TestOSA. The updated one from Craig is the one with today's date ("All-In-One"). I was about to rename this over the "All-in-One" but, just in case one more rebuild + sign might be needed (i.e., to include the above plugins), I'll hold-off to make sure. - Chris

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the Warning changes
by Eliot Miranda 15 Jul '15

15 Jul '15

Hi All, has anyone else noticed that now the Notifier doesn't contain a stack trace, only a copy of the title, the message text of the exception? Isn't this a regression from the recent Warning changes? Can we please have the stack trace back in cases other than Warning? I'm playing with events in the VM simulator which are breaking the UI, and its difficult to debug without a stack trace to show me where I've botched things up. -- best, Eliot

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name puzzle: how to name a message
by Tobias Pape 14 Jul '15

14 Jul '15

Hi all I've got a small naming puzzle: So we have x to: y that makes Intervall (x, x+1, x+2, ... , y) And we can do x to: x + z to get Intervall (x, x+1, x+2, ..., x+z) But we have x twice in there. What would you name the message x ???? z that gives Intervall (x, x+1, x+2, ..., x+z) I'm curious for your answers :) Best regards -Tobias PS: #by: is already taken for #to:by: PPS: A workaround is (0 to: z) + x

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Vivide IDE?
by H. Hirzel 13 Jul '15

13 Jul '15

On 7/10/15, marcel.taeumel <Marcel.Taeumel(a)hpi.de> wrote: ... > You might want to take a look at the layout policy that I use in Vivide: > https://github.com/hpi-swa/vivide/tree/master/repository/Vivide.package/ViC… .... Hello Marcel Where should I start reading about Vivide? Is it ready for general use? Kind regards Hannes

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Squeak 4.6 -- 3rd Release Candidate
by Chris Muller 11 Jul '15

11 Jul '15

This is most likely going to be the one. http://ftp.squeak.org/4.6/Squeak4.6-15101.zip Another new sources file, as before, is required, be sure not to use any old SqueakV46.sources files. http://ftp.squeak.org/4.6/SqueakV46.sources.zip I'll try the All-In-One tomorrow but will probably need Mac help again.

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accessing file permissions within the image
by Chris Muller 10 Jul '15

10 Jul '15

Is it possible to determine the Linux file permissions of a file or directory from within the image running on Linux?

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ProportionalLayout not so suitable for Drag-and-Drop?
by Stephan Eggermont 10 Jul '15

10 Jul '15

I have been playing with drag-and-drop and layouts, and noticed that TableLayout seems to have much better support for drag-and-drop than ProportionalLayout. Are there other LayoutPolicies that I should take a look at? Stephan

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