Squeak-dev September 2007

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Future of Dolphin Survey
by Dolphin Shelter 05 Sep '07

05 Sep '07

Dear Smalltalkers, As you may be aware, Object Arts Ltd. recently announced that they could no longer continue supporting and developing Dolphin Smalltalk. A group of Dolphin users (?Dolphin Shelter?) has since formed to discuss how to keep Dolphin alive. In close consultation with Andy Bower of Object Arts, we have decided that the best option would be a buyout and open sourcing of Dolphin, similar to what was achieved with Blender. We have created a two page survey that has two goals: 1) Assess the chances of a buyout succeeding. 2) Ask the community for their knowledge and thoughts on how to practically go about setting up and making the buyout a success. The first page is collected anonymously. We ask that even if you would not contribute any money to the buyout, that you continue to the second page and share your ideas on how we can make the buyout work. The survey is at: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=F0w4GqMqUCFazkRUXaAL9A_3d_3d Thank you in advance. Go Smalltalk! Dolphin Shelter dolphinshelter(a)opendolphin.org

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Vector output from Squeak
by Thomas A Petersen 05 Sep '07

05 Sep '07

Greetings Fellow Squeakers, I would like to output Squeak visual representations such as connectors diagrams to a vector format for export to lesser environments for inclusion in briefings and large format printing. I know someone in the distant past started work on an SVG export implementation. There is also some support for postscript output of some objects. Does anyone have any pointers on where to look to access this functionality. If all else fails, I’ll write it myself. However, my Squeak is a little rusty ;). Thanks much, tap

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News Team Report - Aug 2007
by Ron Teitelbaum 05 Sep '07

05 Sep '07

Hello everyone, First I would like to thank our new News Team Volunteers!! We had new articles by Brad Fuller and Michael Haupt. We also added Michael Davies to the team. Thank you for your work and for volunteering!! We could use more help. This is a good place to contribute to Squeak! Please contact me and I'll work with you to get you started. For August we posted 6 articles. That's a bit short of our goal of one post per day, but it is still much better then last month! Our best day was 8/30. We had over 1000 hits. We had about 10,000 hits for August. Here are our top two articles. Thinking Objects <http://weeklysqueak.wordpress.com/2007/08/12/thinking-objects/> 1,236 hits New Squeak UI Enhancements Released <http://weeklysqueak.wordpress.com/2007/08/30/new-squeak-ui-enhancements-rel eased/> 1,200 hits Still of interest is that over 50 of our old articles are still being read frequently; at least 10 times with most over 30 hits. 16 articles have over 50 hits and 9 have over 100 hits. If you have suggestions of something you would like to see covered please feel free to contact me. Thanks, Ron Teitelbaum Squeak News Team Leader

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Box-Admins Team Report for August, 2007
by Ken Causey 05 Sep '07

05 Sep '07

The box-admins team is reponsible for seeing that the community shared server is maintained and setting up any new features to be hosted on that server. For August 2007: David Mitchell has been helping out for months now trolling through the high volume of spam received for the Announcements list looking for the rare piece of announcement gold. Thank you very much David! I guess we all just caught up on some sleep this last full month of summer because there's really nothing much to report. I want to thank the community for the monetary support needed to fund the box and remind them that the bills continue to appear and that you can currently contribute to the hosting bills by going to http://www.squeak.org/Foundation/SupportSqueak/ and purchasing a Squeak badge. Note that a donation here may be used for other Squeak Foundation services including but not limited to development, development infrastructure, and promotion of Squeak. The services being hosted have continued to grow and include (but are not limited to): http://www.squeak.org/ SqueakMap - http://map.squeak.org/ http://ftp.squeak.org/ http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/ http://discuss.squeakfoundation.org/ http://source.squeakfoundation.org/ http://map.squeak.org/ https://svn.squeak.org/ http://update.squeakfoundation.org/ http://wiki.squeak.org/ http://bugs.squeak.org/ and DNS services for squeak.org and squeakfoundation.org domain names. Ken

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Marcus's 21C3 Squeak Talk
by Brad Fuller 05 Sep '07

05 Sep '07

Marcus, I checked out your 21C3 talk and it's great! It would be nice to have this with your mp3 available on squeak.org so that people interested in Squeak could find out about Squeak on their own. What's the possibility of taking the wonderful image that you created and synchronizing the audio from your talk? brad

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[Q] Someone have the Tamaris pdf file ?
by Edgar J. De Cleene 05 Sep '07

05 Sep '07

Folks: I tell my students to build a small user manual for 3.10 base image. When telling about alternative browsers, one very interesting is Tamaris. Unlucky me, I can't locate the very good Tamaris.pdf in any backups. Any could have to share ? Very thanks in advance

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accessing the Squeak core in Scratch
by Jens Moenig 05 Sep '07

05 Sep '07

Dear Squeakers, I just wanted to let you know that I have found a way to access Squeak from within Scratch 1.1, and posted a little tutorial on how to do it on the Scratch website.: http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/Jens/22355 http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/Jens/22355 Also, I have written a lilttle patch that enables Scratch 1.1 to export scripts (block stacks) into an xml format, and to import such xml files as Scratch scripts, so you can write your own extensions for Scratch. I've posted a first 'alpha' version to SqueakMap. have fun! Jens -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/accessing-the-Squeak-core-in-Scratch-tf4382630.html#a… Sent from the Squeak - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Job Position for a Smalltalker
by Noury Bouraqadi 05 Sep '07

05 Sep '07

Hi, My team is hiring a Smalltalk developer http://csl.ensm-douai.fr/noury/18#2007-09-05 Noury ------------------------------------------------------------------ Dr. Noury Bouraqadi - Enseignant/Chercheur Responsable de l'enseignement de l'informatique ARMINES - Ecole des Mines de Douai - Dept. I.A. http://csl.ensm-douai.fr/noury European Smalltalk Users Group Board http://www.esug.org ------------------------------------------------------------------

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Code interchange from VW and Squeak and viceversa
by Dario Trussardi 04 Sep '07

04 Sep '07

Hello All, i,m interest do define the best metod to interchange code from VW 7.4 and Squeak image and viceversa. It's possibole define one common repository. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! Dario Trussardi

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RE: Getting double semi as sequencer harvested.
by Göran Krampe 04 Sep '07

04 Sep '07

Hi fellow Squeakers! First - I haven't followed this particular thread that much so consider me fairly uneducated in the variations and nuisances of "pipes" as proposed. But that has never stopped me from sharing my few cents :) : Yes, Alan Kay wants Smalltalk to evolve - but he is IMHO not considering the practical aspects that we as ONE Smalltalk implementation among others (crossplatform issues) must do. I personally also think that we should drive Smalltalk forward and not be glued to the frozen ANSI standard. And including Traits was the first such "move" in a long time, and even though we still don't know how it plays out I think it was a healthy sign that we did it. :) BUT... pipe? Come on - IMHO this is not even solving a *real* problem - just giving us some syntactic sugar - and I generally dislike sugar in languages. I think it will just create more problems than it will ever "solve". I mean, what problem is it actually "solving"? Removing some parenthesis? Is it really worth throwing away compatibility for that? If we want to move Smalltalk forward I think we have lots of other much more *interesting* bits to chew on like new notions of dealing with concurrency or cleaning up base libraries (those covered by the std) or whatever. Having said that I also think that we could start some kind of simple way for us to experiment without having to "choose" like this. One way is to create an official continuously maintained "patch set" called "Smalltalk-2000" or whatever that can be loaded on top of regular Squeak. Maintained meaning that we "port" it onto each new version of Squeak. It can contain several of these more drastical changes to Smalltalk and work as a test bed. This way people can try out these additions "in real life" and Smalltalk-2000 could even build a strong following - and eventually we could then consider bringing it into the slightly more conservative Squeak line. I think we also considered a similar approach to rewriting the Collection classes - by making a new package called NewCollections that can be installed without conflicts. regards, Göran

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