Squeak-dev August 2006

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Ladrillos (was SqueakCore System [proposal])
by Lic. Edgar J. De Cleene 24 Aug '06

24 Aug '06

People: Ladrillos is bricks in Argentina. So I wish ladrillos small and versatile for building common houses, Empire State, Kheops Piramide, Long Chinese Wall, etc. For any future system, (Spoon, Kernel, SqueakCore, etc) I said we should not use actual PI. We should build new ladrillos. Here I my first try for Kernel. KernelCompression.1.cs should have #CRCError #DeflateStream #FastInflateStream #FileList #InflateStream #MessageTally #StringHolder #ZipConstants #ZipEncoder #ZipEncoderTree #ZipWriteStream Edgar __________________________________________________ Pregunt�. Respond�. Descubr�. Todo lo que quer�as saber, y lo que ni imaginabas, est� en Yahoo! Respuestas (Beta). �Probalo ya! http://www.yahoo.com.ar/respuestas

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DES Encryption
by Malte Zacharias 23 Aug '06

23 Aug '06

Hello, I am currently trying to get DES Encrpytion to work, I am using Squeak 3.8 and loaded Cryptography from SqueakMap and everything except DES works, because it needs the DESPlugin and I have no clue where to get that and how to compile it. Is anyone here who can help me with that issue or point me in another direction? tia, Malte Zacharias

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[Fun] Form local clubs!
by Markus Gaelli 23 Aug '06

23 Aug '06

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ihuv5z6nqWw Have to run to join the Bernese Squeak Regulars' Table now... Markus

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Ladrillos2 building report.
by Lic. Edgar J. De Cleene 23 Aug '06

23 Aug '06

Well, I could get ZipConstants on Kernel. Also the first "exploration" shows what several exploration phases was needed. Here Ladrillo2.st (FileStream readOnlyFileNamed: 'Object-doesNotUnderstand.st') fileIn. (FileStream readOnlyFileNamed: 'ZipEncoderNode.st') fileIn. (FileStream readOnlyFileNamed: 'ZipEncoderTree.st') fileIn. (FileStream readOnlyFileNamed: 'ZipConstants.st') fileIn. Here I copy the kernel console transcript (last lines) for see the worm can Squeak is now.... (ChangeSorter is Undeclared) (ChangeSorter is Undeclared) (message is Undeclared) (message is Undeclared) (message is Undeclared) (FillInTheBlank is Undeclared) (command is shadowed in "RemoteDebugClient>>#nextCommand:") (PopUpMenu is Undeclared) (PopUpMenu is Undeclared) (ZipEncoderTree is Undeclared) (ZipEncoderNode is Undeclared) (ZipEncoderTree is Undeclared) starting remote comm test initializing network ... ok server start to perform instructions Command sended is UndefinedObject #new (ChangeSorter is Undeclared) (ChangeSorter is Undeclared) (message is Undeclared) (message is Undeclared) (message is Undeclared) (FillInTheBlank is Undeclared) (command is shadowed in "RemoteDebugClient>>#nextCommand:") (PopUpMenu is Undeclared) (PopUpMenu is Undeclared) (ParagraphEditor is Undeclared) (ParagraphEditor is Undeclared) (SystemWindow is Undeclared) (PluggableTextMorph is Undeclared) (StandardSystemView is Undeclared) (PluggableTextView is Undeclared) (SyntaxMorph is Undeclared) (PluggableTextMorph is Undeclared) (TextRequestor is Undeclared) (Browser is Undeclared) (Browser is Undeclared) (ClassCommentVersionsBrowser is Undeclared) (VersionsBrowser is Undeclared) (Browser is Undeclared) (ChangeSorter is Undeclared) (MethodHolder is Undeclared) (Browser is Undeclared) (MenuMorph is Undeclared) (MenuMorph is Undeclared) (CustomMenu is Undeclared) (ActiveWorld is Undeclared) (TransferMorph is Undeclared) (ServerDirectory is Undeclared) (ParagraphEditor is Undeclared) (SqueakPage is Undeclared) (ActiveWorld is Undeclared) (TelnetProtocolError is Undeclared) (AlignmentMorph is Undeclared) (View is Undeclared) (PluggableButtonView is Undeclared) (PluggableButtonView is Undeclared) (ServerDirectory is Undeclared) (SelectionMenu is Undeclared) (ServerDirectory is Undeclared) (ServerDirectory is Undeclared) (SelectionMenu is Undeclared) (ServerDirectory is Undeclared) (ServerDirectory is Undeclared) (ServerDirectory is Undeclared) (SelectionMenu is Undeclared) (CustomMenu is Undeclared) (WindowColorSpec is Undeclared) (FileServices is Undeclared) (PluggableListMorph is Undeclared) (BorderedSubpaneDividerMorph is Undeclared) (AlignmentMorph is Undeclared) (ProportionalLayout is Undeclared) (LayoutFrame is Undeclared) (LayoutFrame is Undeclared) (LayoutFrame is Undeclared) (LayoutFrame is Undeclared) (AlignmentMorph is Undeclared) (ProportionalLayout is Undeclared) (PluggableListMorph is Undeclared) (PluggableTextMorph is Undeclared) (BorderedSubpaneDividerMorph is Undeclared) (LayoutFrame is Undeclared) (LayoutFrame is Undeclared) (LayoutFrame is Undeclared) (LayoutFrame is Undeclared) (StandardSystemView is Undeclared) (PluggableListView is Undeclared) (PluggableTextView is Undeclared) (PluggableListView is Undeclared) (PluggableTextView is Undeclared) (SystemWindow is Undeclared) (PluggableTextMorph is Undeclared) (StandardSystemView is Undeclared) (PluggableTextView is Undeclared) (StandardFileMenu is Undeclared) (SystemWindow is Undeclared) (PluggableTextMorph is Undeclared) (WindowColorSpec is Undeclared) starting remote comm test initializing network ... ok server start to perform instructions Command sended is UndefinedObject #registeredFileReaderClasses __________________________________________________ Pregunt�. Respond�. Descubr�. Todo lo que quer�as saber, y lo que ni imaginabas, est� en Yahoo! Respuestas (Beta). �Probalo ya! http://www.yahoo.com.ar/respuestas

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What is the proper way to get 3.9 with shout and eCompletion?
by Hilaire Fernandes 23 Aug '06

23 Aug '06

It looks like shout under 3.9 insist to convert := as _ Hilaire

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E-Memorabilia 2nd Squeak Stammtisch in Bern
by Klaus D. Witzel 23 Aug '06

23 Aug '06

List, just in case that you've missed the 2nd Squeak Stammtisch in Bern, some e-memorabilia have been posted over there in squeak-ev @ - http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-ev/2006-August/001664.ht… /Klaus

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Fwd: If python goes Etoys, let's go scripting then - with the best IDE for creating and a clean license for running(!) scripts
by Markus Gaelli 23 Aug '06

23 Aug '06

I take the liberty to forward to squeak-dev, as I moved the discussion there. Sorry for the inconvenience... Markus > > Hi, > > Ruby is certainly very nice for scripting, but it falls flat on its > face exactly where all file-based languages have problems -- > debugging is painful. Let's face it, irb is simply not a > substitute for the Smalltalk environment. > > Rather than develop a complete environment for Ruby, it seems to me > far more interesting and simpler too to see what it would take to > make Smalltalk more suitable for scripting. > > I believe that activities like this are needed to help the Squeak > community move forward. > > Oscar > > On Aug 23, 2006, at 5:10, Colin Putney wrote: > >> >> On Aug 22, 2006, at 3:52 AM, Markus Gaelli wrote: >> >>> Professor Nierstrasz (liking the IDE of Squeak and Smalltalk a >>> lot, but starting to build Ruby scripts for convenience (#!) >>> reasons) asked Marcus and me about the possibility of having >>> Squeak as a good script writing engine on the one hand and a >>> script executor on the other hand. >> >> My guess is that it's not worth the effort. Ruby makes a good >> language for command-line scripts - it's got a Smalltalk-like >> object model, blocks, decent libraries and good access to other >> command-line tools. Why not just use that? >> >> Why all the sudden interest in making a scripting language out of >> Squeak? As a community we need to get our own house in order and >> figure out how to manage the code we've got with the people we've >> got. Then we can think about reaching out to other communities, if >> that seems like a good idea. >> >> grumble, grumble. >> >> Colin >

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Fwd: If python goes Etoys, let's go scripting then - with the best IDE for creating and a clean license for running(!) scripts
by Markus Gaelli 23 Aug '06

23 Aug '06

I take the liberty to forward to squeak-dev, as I moved the discussion there. Sorry for the inconvenience... Markus > > This is not sudden for me this is at least since 2000 that I want > that. > I was waiting for S# and nothing came. Then we tried to do diamond > but we were too busy doing something else. > Roel introduced primitives to VW to printout. But now this would be > cool that I can run the scripts > I want to write and can debug them. I'm fed up about sh, bash, ruby > because they do not have a good debugger. > Also at the end Ruby will have a cache and a debugger so in that > case why not waiting.... > > PS: I liked the talk of dave thomas at esug in 2002 about sapphire: > it looks like pepsi. > > Stef > >>> Professor Nierstrasz (liking the IDE of Squeak and Smalltalk a >>> lot, but starting to build Ruby scripts for convenience (#!) >>> reasons) asked Marcus and me about the possibility of having >>> Squeak as a good script writing engine on the one hand and a >>> script executor on the other hand. >> >> My guess is that it's not worth the effort. Ruby makes a good >> language for command-line scripts - it's got a Smalltalk-like >> object model, blocks, decent libraries and good access to other >> command-line tools. Why not just use that? >> >> Why all the sudden interest in making a scripting language out of >> Squeak? As a community we need to get our own house in order and >> figure out how to manage the code we've got with the people we've >> got. Then we can think about reaching out to other communities, if >> that seems like a good idea. >> >> grumble, grumble. >> >> Colin >

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Spoon progress 22 August 2006: searching swapped-out methods for literals
by Craig Latta 23 Aug '06

23 Aug '06

Hi all-- Just a quick note about a fun hack. In my quest to remove all references to the system dictionary (after making each class responsible for its own name[1]), I remembered that many of the method dictionary values in the minimal memory are nil, due to the inert-method-discarding garbage collector[2]. That would make searching for references a bit tricky, since nil doesn't understand hasLiteral: and other messages that CompiledMethod implements for the benefit of the development tools. I changed Behavior>>whichSelectorsReferTo:special:byte: et al in the minimal memory so that when they encounter a nil where a method used to be, they use a proxy on the actual method back in the master memory. Now "references" works again on the minimal memory, complete with browsing source, without having to swap any methods back in. If you haven't been following these progress reports, then the above may make absolutely no sense, but I think there are at least a few of you out there. ;) The larger point is that I'm getting close to deleting SystemDictionary. thanks, -C [1] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/spoon/2006-July/000124.html [2] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/spoon/2006-April/000107.html -- Craig Latta http://netjam.org/resume

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Celeste Spam Howto wanted ;)
by Giovanni Giorgi 22 Aug '06

22 Aug '06

Hi all, I am working on Celeste Source code, to upgrade it and add some new functionality. I'd like to add small tutorials on celeste on my web site. The Celeste section is born yesterday, but you can take a look to: http://blog.objectsroot.com/celeste I'd like to get some documentation about the spam filter. How does it work? Do you need to train it marking the emails as spam and then it will do the job for you? -- Software Architect http://www.objectsroot.com/ Software is nothing

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