Squeak-dev May 2006

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RE: could we have the latest version of Spoon on squeak.org
by Peter Crowther 28 May '06

28 May '06

> From: stéphane ducasse > Downloading spoon require bittorrent and a university not blocking > port... It's a very good point - I seed Spoon, and have seen very little activity on the torrent. Changing the tracker or data ports won't help much, either, as the bulk of academic firewalls are sufficiently smart to examine the data on the connection rather than the port number these days. I'd love to see a Spoon download hosted on squeak.org. - Peter

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RE: [OT] Outlook quoting (was RE: Name spaces in Spoon)
by Peter Crowther 28 May '06

28 May '06

> From: Michael Latta > Thanks for the pointer. I looked at that screen several > times and never really saw the drop down for what it was. Yeah, I had to have it pointed out to me. There's nothing like good interface design... - Peter

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booting SqueakNOS from CF or USB key?
by Craig Latta 28 May '06

28 May '06

Hi-- I got SqueakNOS to boot on real hardware (great work, Gerardo and all!). The next thing I'm wondering is if I can somehow recast the ISO bits onto a compact flash card or USB memory key and boot from that. If anyone can help me do that, I'd very much appreciate it! I can't seem to find Also, I'm working toward booting SqueakNOS with a Spoon object memory that supports a remote messaging connection over a serial line. Then I can develop on it remotely from a normal machine. thanks! -C -- Craig Latta improvisational musical informaticist www.netjam.org Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)]

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RE: Name spaces in Spoon
by Peter Crowther 27 May '06

27 May '06

> From: Michael Latta > The downside I see in having call context dependent behavior > is that the > reader of the code needs to know the run-time context that > will modify the > behavior of the object. The same result can be achieved with > a wrapper > object that implements the new methods, and passes on unknown > methods to the delegate. Consider the following: ClassA implements methodA as '^self'. ClassB, a subclass of A, implements methodB as '^self methodA'. Now a module adds methodA to ClassB (let's say it's '^self') and calls 'ClassB new methodB'. The delegate case would call ClassA>>methodA, whereas the 'expected' behaviour is pobably a call of the module's methodA. There's also an interesting discussion to be had about what class the returned object would be - it could be ClassB or ClassB-delegate depending on how this was implemented This is not 'the same result', I think. - Peter

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[OT] Outlook quoting (was RE: Name spaces in Spoon)
by Peter Crowther 27 May '06

27 May '06

> From: Michael Latta > See below. Outlook does not support normal quoting. There are 'normal' email users even at Microsoft, but you have to dig a bit. Tool>Options, Preferences tab, Email Options..., when trplying to a message prefix each line of the original and type "> " into the prefix field. You'll get a warning about Outlook being unable to ignore the quoted area for spell-checking - big deal. This has been in Outlook since at least OL2000, possibly earlier, so it's likely the one you're using has it. - Peter

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RE: multiple classes with the same name, namespaces
by Peter Crowther 27 May '06

27 May '06

> From: Ralph Johnson > I don't understand your replacement for the current system dictionary. > It is just an unkeyed collection of classes. Why bother, when you > can already ask Class for its instances, or Object for its subclasses? > Why duplicate functionality? Prevention of garbage collection might be one example. - Peter

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Win32Shell and ExternalWindowsOSProcess
by Keith McKay 27 May '06

27 May '06

I'm looking for some advice I have been running programs from within Squeak using both Win32Shell and ExternalWindowsOSProcess with some success. However, I have not been able to figure out how to capture the text output from the program to the screen into the contents of a PluggableTextMorph. I can do it by calling the program in a batch file and redirecting the output to a file rather than the screen, and then reading the file into the PluggableTextMorph. I have also tried running the batch file directly in CommandShell but I get a "cannot access system to run 'prog.bat'" error message. This was done more in desperation than with logic. Is there a way to capture text output from an external program directly into a PluggableTextMorph? Programming isn't my day job, I do this just for fun. I think I am at my limit of Squeak knowledge with the above problem so any advice would be appreciated. Thanks Keith McKay Hamilton, Scotland. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.1/348 - Release Date: 25/05/2006

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Tweak and Tweak
by Robert Hawley 27 May '06

27 May '06

I assume that the 'Tweak' mentioned in the Preferences has nothing to do with the 'Tweak' that will end up in Croquet. I'd be interested to have an update on what is the current situation concerning the possibilities of Tweak coming into Squeak.

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Available for contract/work
by Jon Hylands 27 May '06

27 May '06

Hi everyone, Well, Stelco has decided to cancel the project I have been working on for the last 3.5 years, and thus EDS (the company that employs us) is going to give us the old heave-ho pretty soon (within a week I think). So, I am once again in the market for a job or contract. I want to stay in Canada, and ideally work at home, but of course life doesn't always work out that way. Anyways, if anyone is looking for an almost 20-year Smalltalker, I'm here... Later, Jon -------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Hylands Jon(a)huv.com http://www.huv.com/jon Project: Micro Seeker (Micro Autonomous Underwater Vehicle) http://www.huv.com

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MacBook & Squeak
by Squeak Smalltalk 27 May '06

27 May '06

Hello, I will soon buy a macbook. Any comments about running squeak on macbook ? Best Regards W.

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