Squeak-dev October 2003

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accelerated OpenGL on linux/nvidia (crash)
by Radek Doulik 08 Feb '04

08 Feb '04

Hi, I am experiencing crashes with Ballon3D. When I enable hardware acceleration, sooner or later squeak crashes. I found some comments on swiki (http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/2904) about using older NVidia drivers, but this semi-solution doesn't work for me as my card is not supported by old driver. The behavior explained there seems to be similar to my case. I tried various VM and image versions, including 3.4 packaged by rpm available on http://www-sor.inria.fr/~piumarta/squeak/ without success. It still crashes. Other OpenGL applications run without problem so it seems to be squeak bug/problem so far. Any idea what could be wrong and/or how to fix it? Cheers Radek Additional information: [rodo@aquarius rodo]$ cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version NVRM version: NVIDIA Linux x86 nvidia.o Kernel Module 1.0-4363 Sat Apr 19 17:46:46 PDT 2003 GCC version: gcc version 3.2.2 20030222 (Red Hat Linux 3.2.2-5) [rodo@aquarius rodo]$ cat /proc/driver/nvidia/cards/0 Model: GeForce4 Ti 4200 IRQ: 11 Video BIOS: 04.25.00.34.00 Card Type: AGP [rodo@aquarius test]$ inisqueak No default image, looking for alternatives... I found the following images: 1 Squeak3.4-5170 (of which I might recommend Squeak3.4-5170, unless you know better). Which one should I install [1-1]? Let's try that again, with a NUMBER between 1 and 1. I found the following images: 1 Squeak3.4-5170 (of which I might recommend Squeak3.4-5170, unless you know better). Which one should I install [1-1]? 1 Installing Squeak3.4-5170.image.gz in /home/rodo/test + ln -s /usr/lib/squeak/SqueakV3.sources SqueakV3.sources + gunzip -dc /usr/lib/squeak/Squeak3.4-5170.image.gz > squeak.image + gunzip -dc /usr/lib/squeak/Squeak3.4-5170.changes.gz > squeak.changes Running /usr/bin/squeak Segmentation fault 1091687564 B3DVertexBuffer>loadIndexed:vertices:normals:colors:texCoords: 1091681980 B3DRenderEngine>drawIndexedTriangles:vertices:normals:colors:texCoords: 1091681528 B3DIndexedTriangleMesh>renderOn: 1091681436 B3DSceneObject>renderOn: 1091687472 [] in B3DScene>renderOn: 1091681344 OrderedCollection>do: 1091681076 B3DScene>renderOn: 1091680984 B3DSceneMorph>renderOn: 1091680892 B3DSceneMorph>drawAcceleratedOn: 1091679788 B3DSceneMorph>drawOn: 1091679696 Canvas>draw: 1091679604 Canvas>drawMorph: 1091678868 [] in Morph>fullDrawOn: 1091678776 FormCanvas>roundCornersOf:in:during: 1091678684 Canvas>roundCornersOf:during: 1091676192 Morph>fullDrawOn: 1091676100 Canvas>fullDraw: 1091676008 Canvas>fullDrawMorph: 1091613720 [] in WorldState>drawWorld:submorphs:invalidAreasOn: 1091612088 Rectangle>allAreasOutsideList:startingAt:do: 1091611996 Rectangle>allAreasOutsideList:do: 1091613468 [] in WorldState>drawWorld:submorphs:invalidAreasOn: 1091611904 SequenceableCollection>do: 1091603568 WorldState>drawWorld:submorphs:invalidAreasOn: 1091611260 [] in WorldState>displayWorld:submorphs: 1091611076 FormCanvas>roundCornersOf:in:during: 1091610984 Canvas>roundCornersOf:during: 1091607520 WorldState>displayWorld:submorphs: 1091607428 PasteUpMorph>privateOuterDisplayWorld 1091607336 PasteUpMorph>displayWorld 1091606968 [] in WorldState>displayWorldSafely: 1091606876 BlockContext>on:do: 1091606784 BlockContext>ifError: 1091606692 WorldState>displayWorldSafely: 1091564816 WorldState>doOneCycleNowFor: 1091564172 WorldState>doOneCycleFor: 1091564080 PasteUpMorph>doOneCycle 1090562648 [] in Project class>spawnNewProcess 1090562832 [] in BlockContext>newProcess [rodo@aquarius test]$

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How to start Squeak under WinXP from image on network?
by Ned Konz 05 Feb '04

05 Feb '04

I just installed the downloadable version of Squeak 3.5 on a Windows XP machine. I can start Squeak on local images (i.e. on the C: drive). that is, this works from a cmd prompt: cd /d c:\squeak squeak.exe squeak.image I tried to open an image several ways, but am not able to start up images on network shares. For instance, this doesn't work: c:\squeak\squeak.exe \\ned\homes\Squeak\3.6\squeak.image even though I can in fact see the image file in the explorer. Squeak complains that it can't find the file. Why doesn't this work? If I map a drive it works, though very very slowly: map h: \\ned\homes c:\squeak\squeak.exe h:\Squeak\3.6\squeak.image But I was trying to avoid mapped drives, since they seem to be just "tacked on" to NT (i.e. they have to go through a translation to become native resource names, etc.) and they're something else that can break. -- Ned Konz http://bike-nomad.com GPG key ID: BEEA7EFE

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[ENH] Socket-sendUDPData
by stefan kersten 28 Jan '04

28 Jan '04

from the changeset's preamble: Adds methods to Socket for sending datagrams while avoiding unecessary copying of data. <sk>

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[BUG] TextPropertiesMorph - overflow
by Webb McDonald 22 Jan '04

22 Jan '04

If you have a text that's substantially large, opening a TextPropertiesMorph to add color becomes impossible. The window opens as large as your full text - is there an alternative? I believe it needs a scrollbar! Can I make this fix and turn it in? also - GeeMail gets blown away when you open TextPropertiesMorph... but I'm not sure where its best to begin with this, (it could call for a rethinking of TextPropertiesMorph - make edits to the existing TextMorph instead of a tmp copy? - evidently this problem with GeeMail occurs btwn the transition from 'TextPlusMorph', to tmp TextMorph, and back to TextPlusMorph). If no one has an opinion on this then I'll go ahead and do these changes! (or please inform me otherwise) - adios, Webb McDonald 1324481.14 662809.63

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[FIX][REPOST] slightProgress-sm
by simon＠joyful.com 16 Jan '04

16 Jan '04

I file this in to every new image to get more accurate project loading progress bars, and it still works for me. So I thought I'd repost. from preamble: "Change Set: SlightProgress-sm Date: 3 Nov 2001 Author: Simon Michael Make project loading progress indicators slightly more accurate by storing timing data separately for local & remote downloads. After loading a few projects you should notice less flickering, especially when downloading large projects over a slow link. Also fixes the spelling of the TranslucentProgressMorph class."!

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[ENH] ChangeSetDirectoryPref-nk
by Ned Konz 05 Jan '04

05 Jan '04

from preamble: "Change Set: ChangeSetDirectoryPref-nk Date: 15 October 2003 Author: Ned Konz This adds a Preference for a directory to save change sets in. "!

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[Bug] The ever-widening PluggableTextMorph
by Ken Causey 31 Dec '03

31 Dec '03

( PluggableTextMorph on: nil text: nil accept: nil readSelection: nil menu: nil ) extent: 50@100; editString: 'This is some really long text that will hopefully cause the PTM to wrap and a scollbar appear'; hResizing: #shrinkWrap; openInWorld. Now either extend the text or just wiggle the scrollbar and watch the PluggableTextMorph widen and widen. The hResizing: #shrinkWrap seems to lead to this behaviour. Ken

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[BUG] Debugger Highlighting still not quite right in 3.6 when browseWithPrettyPrint enabled
by Ken Causey 19 Dec '03

19 Dec '03

I'm still having problems with debugger highlighting even in a 3.6 image upgraded to 5387. The best way I can come up with to give you a repeatable way to see this: 1. Start with a 5387 image like the one at ftp://st.cs.uiuc.edu/pub/Smalltalk/Squeak/3.6beta/Squeak3.6b-5387.zip 2. Go into the preferences and enable browseWithPrettyPrint 3. Open the Package Loader (SqueakMap). 4. File in Celeste Removal. This results in a UndefinedObject methodsFor:? debugger prompt. 5. Browse the stack. Guess I'll file the Celeste Removal issue seperately. ;) Ken

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[BUG] BFAV/KCP archive problem
by Tim Rowledge 16 Dec '03

16 Dec '03

I just tried out the BFAV browser on the KCP archive. Somewhere around number 88 it failed because the #timeSent of an entry was nil. I really can't quite work out how this could arise since the mail implementation of #time seems to take some pains to prevent that possibility. A quick hack changing the ArchivePost>timeSent to return 0 if the ivar is nil got me past that initial problem. The MailMessage>time method uses ifError:, a crime for which there is no adequate punishment. Well, maybe an enforced watching of dumb and dumberer? It also failed to load a large number of entries but since BFAV seems to do that regularly I didn't pay much attention. tim -- Tim Rowledge, tim(a)sumeru.stanford.edu, http://sumeru.stanford.edu/tim Strange OpCodes: IXM: Initiate X-rated error Messages

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Re: [Squeakfoundation]Shepherding large enhancements
by Daniel Vainsencher 16 Dec '03

16 Dec '03

Amen to that. BTW, everyone is welcome to join the review fest going on in the final hours of 3.6alpha by installing the BFAV and reviewing/testing/ commenting something (even if its small). I intend to do some approving tommorrow, so stuff that gets enough loving and is ready still has a chance to get in. Daniel PS. You might want to look at http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/3103 Jimmie Houchin <jhouchin(a)texoma.net> wrote: > Just wanted to make a few comments in the midst of the all the heat and > smoke, but no _anger_. :) > > Like many I am for the Squeak which can be anything you want it to be. > Server Squeak, Multimedia Squeak, OS Environment Squeak. > > I really like the TTF and New Look stuff. I would really like the visual > aspects of Squeak to be polished and shine, shine, shine. :) > > I understand those who want to honor the _Date_ committment. > I understand those who want to honor a _Feature_ committment. > I agree. :) > > I would like to encourage those who may be discouraged because of a > perception of slow progress. The perception of their goodies possibly > (but hopefully will now) not getting in due only becoming available just > prior to the _Date_. > > Understand that the process is not mature. > The tools are not mature. > > Much of the time during this _alpha_ period have been without Marcus as > Harvestor and without BFAV. > > From my perception the BFAV is enabling more people to step up to the > plate and contribute. As the tools and _process_ improve more people > will likely join in to help as the time committment might not be as high. > > We have much to be encouraged about. Please, please be encouraged and > not discouraged. The good things will make it into Squeak (via SM or > image). And please feel free to define what you call _good things_. > > I don't believe that the Guides/Community choosing to either continue > forward with 3.6 and _Date_ or delay the _Date_ to help the _Features_ > with hurt Squeak or the community. > > We need to allow the Guides and the Community and the Process to mature > the Process for all of us to fully grasp it. > > So whether the _Date_ is strictly adhered to or if a small 1-2 week > delay is introduced, we need to understand it doesn't make any of this a > normative part of the _Process_. It won't break anything. These are > growing pains. Be of good cheer. That is a good thing. It means progress. > > So please cheer up. > We have much to be thankful for and much to look forward to. > > Jimmie Houchin > Squeak Cheerleader > RA RA SHISH BOOM BA. ;) > (ahhhh! now I've shouted. :) > > > Proverbs 17:22 > A merry heart does good like a medicine: but a broken spirit dries up > the bones. > > _______________________________________________ > Squeakfoundation mailing list > Squeakfoundation(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/listinfo/squeakfoundation

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