Squeak-dev April 2001

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Linux on PS/2
by Ohshima, Yoshiki 26 Apr '01

26 Apr '01

Hello, # "PS/2" in the subject refers to Sony's PlayStation 2, not # IBM's Personal System/2. Sony announced that they release "Linux kit for PlayStation 2" in June. The kit includes * a DVD-ROM * 40GB HDD that has 100Base-TX and connected to PS/2 via PC-card slot * USB keyboard * USB mouse * VGA adaptor * manual (See the picture at: http://www.jp.playstation.com/linux/image/main.jpg) The price is only 25,000 yen or $210. It enables us to write a program that uses the graphics accelaration. -- Yoshiki

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Sharing with you my enthousiasm
by Stephane Ducasse 26 Apr '01

26 Apr '01

Hi I discovered recently the Blue Look of Henrik Gedenryd and the Morph Dock developed by Jim Benson. Thanks for you have made, I have a much better feeling when developing in Squeak. I really like the result. I was wondering why the Blue Look of Henrik could not serve as the base for a better environment for advanced people. What is the status of the collect of several UI propositions to elect one. Doug have you made progess? Have you look at the Blue Look? May be a look is a bit too blue and some minor suggestions for improvement could be collected. I usually do not like to send file into the mailing list but I really want that everybody can see the result of the combination of the two changesets. What is see is that I iconized a browser and that this browser went into the dock then moving my mouse over it I can see what I was browsing. Stef

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Re: Sharing with you my enthousiasm
by danielv＠netvision.net.il 26 Apr '01

26 Apr '01

I use the colored sticking out corners too. How ever, it might be enough to have only the border colored, so everything else would be white. Or it might look like the plague, I dont know much about such things... Joshua Channing Gargus <schwa(a)cc.gatech.edu> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 01:55:36PM +0200, Henrik Gedenryd wrote: > > I am curious: How many of you out there prefer multicolored windows > > (backgrounds, not title bars)? If so, what is it that you like? Or is this > > just a legacy thing that has just been hanging on and you aren't really > > bothered enough to care about it? Perhaps this has been on the table before. > > I very much prefer the multicolored windows. I like that I can be following > a chain of senders and implementors and cover up most of my window, but can > still see the pink/orange bottom corner of a FileList/Transcript. I wouldn't > be able to do that with just colored title bars. Besides, I think that the > colored windows look "happy". > > I really like Doug's look. I think that merging it with aspects of your > look would be terrific! > > Joshua > > > > > > Doug, you can mail me off list if you think this is the time to do it, so we > > can set up the work agenda. > > > > Henrik > >

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Listserv dropouts? (was: Re: Fix for updating issue)
by Helge Horch 26 Apr '01

26 Apr '01

At 07:44 26.04.2001 -0400, Jerry L. Archibald wrote: >This did not get copied to mailing list. Strange return address I guess. ?~? >Return-path: <JArchibald(a)aol.com> >From: JArchibald(a)aol.com I have wondered -- do other folks occasionally miss single posts too? Combing the April mail spool: grep X-Mailing-List: aprilsofar | sed 's/.*\///' | sort | awk -f foo.awk I get 31387 is missing 31483 is missing ... (and 16 others from a range of 31365-32787) Seems that 1.3% of this April's posts never reached my inbox. (Even some [UPDATES] posts were missing here, so I had to get them from one of the archives.) Just wondering, Helge

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problem starting Squeak ('This visual class is not supported')
by Bonar, Gregory 26 Apr '01

26 Apr '01

Squeak 2.7 fails to start on my notebook under FreeBSD. Using the FreeBSD port, it builds fine. after entering 'squeak &' while in the directory containing the image & changes files, I get 'Using default visual', followed by 'This visual class is not supported'. Could someone please point me to some info about this? thanks.

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Re: Morph Q's on alignment and text editing
by Ned Konz 26 Apr '01

26 Apr '01

On Thursday 26 April 2001 09:40, Ross Boylan wrote: > Thanks to the advice I have the alignment and display fixed up. However, > I'm still unable to edit the text. Also, overriding > #addCustomMenuItems:hand: doesn't do anything--I suspect for the same > reason, lack of focus. Use an AlignmentMorph rather than a RectangleMorph as the parent. Look at wantsKeyboardFocusFor: (one of the few differences between an AlignmentMorph and a RectangleMorph). You'll also probably have to set color: and borderWidth: to make it look like your Rectangle. And you may not want to use #shrinkWrap for hResizing, as your size may grow with the UpdatingStringMorph. -- Ned Konz currently: Stanwood, WA email: ned(a)bike-nomad.com homepage: http://bike-nomad.com

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RE: Newsweek article on "Dynabook-like" computer
by Raab, Andreas 26 Apr '01

26 Apr '01

Alan wrote: > BTW Squeak runs beautifully on Chuck's* machine. > Using the fleshed out media version of Squeak on > the Tablet is the closest thing to a complete Dynabook > experience I've yet had. If they only had a good option for a keyboard I would immediately trade my laptop for that very piece of hardware (and that's saying something!). BTW, for the more technically inclined, the Crusoe runs Squeak at very reasonable speeds - it's pretty darn close to what one would expect from an Intel CPU at similar speed. - Andreas

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Re: Smalltalk & Squeak featured on Slashdot
by Richard A. O'Keefe 26 Apr '01

26 Apr '01

Bijan Parsia <bparsia(a)email.unc.edu> may perhaps have mistaken my drift. A shrinked image (with MVC and IDE) can prolly still come in under 1MB. Indeed it can. But as has been pointed out by others, it doesn't work. I've claimed the smallness of shrunk images myself, but the one I got from MajorShrink has falllen over enough that I've stopped trying to use it. As for what "probably" can be done, a proof by demonstration would be mighty nice. With Morphic and a few other yummies you should be able to stay under 2.5 or so. Ditto. > It would be interesting to know roughly where the space is going. [by topics] Hmm. I'm surprised at that. Scamper (for many things) is pretty nippy for me. Ah, but *my* machines are only about 250MHz. But here's a tip to help figure some of this out. SystemDictionary has a few useful space analysis tools in the miscellaneous protocol, especially #spaceTally. From it's comment: Yeah, I know about that. But "topic" ~= "class". Even "topic" != "class category". Which, of course, doesn't cover much of the scamper classes. So I ran this: | categories | categories := #(#'Network-Url' #'Network-Web Browser' #'Network-HTML Formatter' #'Network-HTML Forms' #'Network-HTML Parser Entities' #'Network-HTML Parser' #'Network-HTML Tokenizer'). categories := self select: [:i | categories includes: i first category]. categories inject: 0 into: [:total :i | total + i second + i fourth] The trick is knowing *which* categories to include. If there were good *documentation* for the HTML parsing and formatting stuff, I would have a use for it, and would be able to contribute to its development. What one considers "bloat" depends on what one _can_ use or not because of the presence of adequate or inadequate documentation as well as what one would find useful. Now, testing for beginsWith: 'Morphic' gets us: 3379693 Bloat at last!!! Except that now I've seen some decent tutorials, Morphic is no longer bloat *for me*. Documentation, documentation, documentation! > Is _any_ Smalltalk dialect used for such applications [i.e., shell scripts and cgis--ed]? I suppose > GNU Smalltalk or Budd's Little Smalltalk might be usable. SmallScript is certainly targeted to those applications (among others). Quick start up and dynamic loading are big features (it doesn't store an image, but always reconstitutes one from files). Never heard of it before. Where do I find out more?

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Re: Sharing with you my enthousiasm
by Bob Arning 26 Apr '01

26 Apr '01

On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 13:55:36 +0200 Henrik Gedenryd <Henrik.Gedenryd(a)lucs.lu.se> wrote: >I am curious: How many of you out there prefer multicolored windows >(backgrounds, not title bars)? If so, what is it that you like? Henrik, What I like about the different colors: - I can quickly find windows I am looking for even when only a corner is visible under a pile of other stuff. - It's a quick visual clue of what this window is about. Cheers, Bob

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Re: Newsweek article on "Dynabook-like" computer
by Jörn Eyrich 26 Apr '01

26 Apr '01

> Perhaps this is the article: > http://www.msnbc.com/news/562895.asp "... Transmeta's Caruso ..." ? the thing must have awesome audio capabilities ... ;-)

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