Squeak-dev March 2000

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Re: Not infectable...
by Bob Arning 01 Mar '00

01 Mar '00

On 29 Feb 2000 20:01:42 -0700 "Lawson English" <english(a)primenet.com> wrote: >Is it easier to track users of mailing lists than individual e-mails or can >Mr. "Garcia" get away without punishment? Hey, let's lighten up a bit. This guy has been around for at over a year and it looks like he was bitten by some virus that attacks X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) which Bill has so graciously bestowed upon us. Sheesh, Bob

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Re: How Do You Do Business Apps? (Squeak/Pro Proposal)
by Lex Spoon 01 Mar '00

01 Mar '00

Most of your proposal sounds great (except that if I could personally afford to pay someone to develop squeak stuff, I'd probably pay myself :)). I have issues with a few of your issues, however: > * either a couple of PD or licensed fonts or maybe OS loadable fonts (if > legal), The current fonts are for all practical purpsose free, right? Now maybe we need *better* fonts, but that's a different issue. > * command line scripting, Squeak already has this. "Squeak myimage.image myfile.st". Now it could be more *useful*, but that seems like a different issue. Also, I don't think Squeak's biggest selling point is scripting, anyway. Even for an app that is ultimately headless, I'd generally prefer to use the GUI to *develop* the app. > * VM GUI events (maybe), and What do you mean here, exactly? Morphic uses events for most everything. If you are talking about having the VM pick up mouse click events instead of polling the mouse state, well, that would be nice, but it hardly seems like a critical issue for most people. Lex

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Re: Check this
by Adam Bridge 01 Mar '00

01 Mar '00

On 2/29/00 at 3:31 PM, jerome(a)lightsurf.com (Jerome E. Garcia) thoughtfully wrote: > Have fun with these links. > Bye. who are you and why are you sending me stuff?

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RE: Check this
by [o] 01 Mar '00

01 Mar '00

take your virus and place it where the sun don't shine -----Original Message----- From: Jerome E. Garcia [mailto:jerome@lightsurf.com] Sent: Wednesday, 1 March 2000 7:32 To: jerome(a)lightsurf.com Subject: Check this Have fun with these links. Bye.

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Not infectable...
by Charles-A. Rovira 01 Mar '00

01 Mar '00

Its times like these that I'm glad I use a Mac and DON'T use any other language that Smalltalk. :-)

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Re: [CCC] False class comment
by Lex Spoon 01 Mar '00

01 Mar '00

Bijan Parsia <bparsia(a)email.unc.edu> wrote: > > [snip] > >> Oh yeah, and this is true for both True and False. So maybe we should > >> just put this stuff in class Boolean, instead of duplicating it in two > >> places. > > > > Even more important IMHO is to always thing about that when reading a > > comment it should be self contained. That means we don't want to move > > parts of the comment to the superclass only because that part is true > for > > multiple subclasses. If the part is really large, we might thing about > an > > explicit "see superclass for more details" but othervise, I'd vote to a > > small redundancy in favor for comments you can understand without > knowing > > the context. Keep in mind, the comment is for references not just a > part > > of a larger explaination. > > Even in the spirit of anti-redundancy, I do agree that comments should be > reasonably non-fragmented. But actual duplication leads to a degree of > maintenance pain. So perhaps an inclusion mechanism would be > feasible? After all, we already have links, it can't be *that* hard to > pull the actual text in. > Morph and its 245 subclasses would form a rather striking example.... Granted, True/False is just two clasess, and so it isn't such a big deal. IMHO, though, people reading Smalltalk code should just expect to have to look at the superclasses for the whole picture. But of course, redundent comments are better than none. :) Lex

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**** Virus ***** RE: Check this
by Jerome E. Garcia 01 Mar '00

01 Mar '00

I would like to apologize again for transmitting this virus. As Aibek says, the best approach if you have already been infected is to run antivirus software. If you do not have any or it is unable to remove the virus, you can also search for the following two files: FREE XXX LINKS RUNDLL.VBS Do not click on them! Use Notepad to open and edit them. Just delete everything in each file. Close it. Delete it and immediately empty your trash. Jerome > -----Original Message----- > From: Aibek Musaev [mailto:abbey@cc.gatech.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, February 29, 2000 4:00 PM > To: squeak mailing list > Cc: jerome(a)lightsurf.com > Subject: Re: Check this > > > Gentlemen, > > Obviously, this is a virus activity. ISyE department has been hit once by > this virus. It affects Windows users. > > Do NOT open the attached Visual Basic script. Otherwise, it will infect > your computer and start spreading forward now using your address book. > > The solution to people with the infected computers would be to run > antivirus software. If you haven't opened the attached file, simply remove > the email. > > Aibek. > > > On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, Jerome E. Garcia wrote: > > > Have fun with these links. > > Bye. > > > >

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Re: [CCC]s
by Lex Spoon 01 Mar '00

01 Mar '00

Just so long as we actually do end up with comments, instead of just talking a lot about them. This [CCC] idea is pretty neat. Lex "Charles-A. Rovira" <crovira(a)wt.net> wrote: > Hello, > > I'd just to add a little formalism to the class comments. Managers and other > anal-retentive types (and I've clenched my own butt on more than one occasion, > :-) like to see this approach and level of detail. Gives them the "warm and > fuzzies." Also makes the life easier when some schmucks changes their minds > and you have to reopen that can of worms. > > Could we give the names* of all > pool dictionaries (and why we need them) > globals & what class(es) it should be (or be what type of a collection of), > class vars & what class(es) it should be (or be what type of a collection > of), > class instance vars & what class(es) it should be (or be what type of a > collection of), > instance vars & what class(es) it should be (or be what type of a collection > of) > > Carrying this down into method comments describing > parameters & what class(es) it should be (or be what type of a collection > of), and > answered objects & what class(es) it should be (or be what type of a > collection of), > really eliminates a lot of guessing when something was not of the class you > were expecting. (Its usually because you didn't know what to expect and gessed > wrong.) > > It would also be good to give > the "raison d'etre" of the class (and some reason for the design, no matter > how cryptic,) > some examples of initialization, use and destruction. > > That's in addition to the excellent comments supplied so far. > > -Charles-A. > > *without getting into semiotics and other linguistic faolderol, having > variables names that don't just give their class (since that is provided in > the class comment) means that instead of seeing variables named "aCollection" > one can see variables named "invoiceLineItems" or "keyboardSemaphores" or > "braSize" (which could be a number of centimeters in the metric system or "cup > selection" in the British system, and would then be described as > > braSize -> nil or Array of: > (one of 'm' 'b') and > (Integer (range 58..105) or > String (one of 'a' 'b' 'c' 'd' 'e' 'wow') ). > > And don't get me started on pants measurements: waists, in-seams, cuffs, > zipper etc. Oych!) > > If you rather use an XML description, go heads, knock yourselves out.

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***** Virus ****** RE: Check this
by Jerome E. Garcia 01 Mar '00

01 Mar '00

My apologies to everyone on the list for transmitting this virus. It hit us here a Lightsurf this afternoon and our virus checking software did not catch it. Jerome > -----Original Message----- > From: Aibek Musaev [mailto:abbey@cc.gatech.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, February 29, 2000 4:00 PM > To: squeak mailing list > Cc: jerome(a)lightsurf.com > Subject: Re: Check this > > > Gentlemen, > > Obviously, this is a virus activity. ISyE department has been hit once by > this virus. It affects Windows users. > > Do NOT open the attached Visual Basic script. Otherwise, it will infect > your computer and start spreading forward now using your address book. > > The solution to people with the infected computers would be to run > antivirus software. If you haven't opened the attached file, simply remove > the email. > > Aibek. > > > On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, Jerome E. Garcia wrote: > > > Have fun with these links. > > Bye. > > > >

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Virus???!!!: "Check this" message posted earlier
by Michael Rueger 01 Mar '00

01 Mar '00

Hi all, I'm not quite sure what to make of this, but it seems our mail system has detected a virus in this message posted to the mailing list? Or what do others see when looking at this message? Michael "Jerome E. Garcia" wrote: > > **** WARNING **** WARNING **** WARNING **** WARNING **** > > A virus was detected in this message and the part(s) of the > message which were infected have been automatically deleted. > > DO NOT resend the message until the virus infection has been > removed up from your PC or the infected content will be > deleted again. > > The virus name was VBS/FreeLink > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Have fun with these links. > Bye. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Name: LINKS.VBS > LINKS.VBS Type: application/x-unknown-content-type-vbsfile > Encoding: quoted-printable -- "To improve is to change, to be perfect is to change often." Winston Churchill +------------------------------------------------------------+ | Michael Rueger | | Phone: ++1 (818) 623 3283 Fax: ++1 (818) 623 3559 | +---------- Michael.Rueger.-ND(a)corp.go.com ------------------+

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