Squeak-dev January 1998

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Re: Serial Port access from Squeak
by gr＠fuzzy.uba.ar 13 Jan '98

13 Jan '98

Todd Coram wrote: > > Hello All, > > > My goal: Squeak + DC20 = cheap playground for digital photography. > > The problem: Squeak doesn't support serial port access (or does it?). > If you are in a hurry to start using your cammera, you can try using this: Windows API Calls for Squeak 1.23 --------------------------------- Version: 0.7 in http://www.sugarweb.com/Miniatures/Files/SqApis.Zip This package works correctly but is incomplete and not fully debugged. Please report bugs and questions to Alejandro F. Reimondo at alereimondo(a)sugarWeb.com Feel free to visit http://www.sugarweb.com (Smalltalk User Group ARgentina) for more recent versions and other works on Smalltalk in Argentina. by Alejandro Reimondo, as you are in Windoze, you can use *comm* functions in User dll (user.exe). I think this is a good place to start using your cammera pretty soon. Soonie bye! Richie++

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Re: On the security question...
by Christopher Oliver 12 Jan '98

12 Jan '98

In a fit of pique I wrote: > My concern is more along the lines of dumping images that contain > passwords and session keys. Well, I seem to have my answer; sensitive interleaved garbage IS getting dumped into the image when I exit via 'Save and quit.' A look through InterpGCC tells me that a compaction is performed when fullGC() is called during the snapshot. Can anyone explain why I'm able to find leftover garbage in the image I get from 'save and quit' in the menu, but not: Smalltalk snapshot: true andQuite: true? My brain hurts! -- Christopher Oliver Traverse Communications Systems Coordinator 223 Grandview Pkwy, Suite 108 oliver(a)traverse.com Traverse City, Michigan, 49684 (define magic (lambda (f) (lambda (x) x))) (define (more-magic n) (lambda (f) (lambda (x) (f ((n f) x)))))

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Re: Serial Port access from Squeak
by Todd Coram 12 Jan '98

12 Jan '98

Ian Piumarta wrote: > Todd, > > > I am interested in getting Squeak to control my Kodak DC20 digital > > camera (This camera is cheap <$200 and fun to play with). > > > > The problem: Squeak doesn't support serial port access (or does it?). > > > > If you're running on Unix (and probably Win32 too, but I don't know > much about it) then you can treat a serial line just like a regular > file. On Linux, for example: > > serial _ FileStream oldFileNamed: '/dev/ttyS0'. > serial nextPutAll: 'Hello, serial device!; cr. > Thanks for the suggestion Ian, I am working under Windoze and was already pursuing something like above mentioned line of attack, but I ran into a couple of problems: 1. I need to set/change the baud rate, parity, bits, etc (the DC20 expects to start at 9600 and I need to tell it to go to a higher rate for more efficient picture transfer). 2. I need to treat the I/O more like a device (e.g. sockets) than a file. This is so I can be signalled (Semaphores?) when presses a button on the camera. 3. I need to treat the port as a "raw" device (binary and byte oriented with no buffering). I could hack 2 & 3 directly in Squeak... but I eventually want to treat the DC20 (and perhaps any other thing connected to a serial port) as a "device". > Anyway, on Unix (and maybe Win32) using the above technique would let > you concentrate on making the Smalltalk stuff work, while some other > kindhearted soul volunteers to do the VM hacking to support > platform-independent streams for serial lines. > I would love to concentrate on the Smalltalk stuff (parsing the DC20 picture format; displaying the pictures; etc), but I was hoping I could tackle the easy part first (initializing the camera, telling it to take a picture, get status, etc)! My experience with Windoze hacking is pretty minimal. I have a good idea what I need for a platform independent interface. What I need is a kindhearted soul to give me some primitives... My current plan of attack is to develop the Smalltalk code for serial "device" support (and the DC20 support) and see how far I can get before I really need the primitives. If I haven't found any code by then... I will have to roll up my sleeves and get my hands dirty. -- Todd Coram (Maroc Ddot) tcoram(a)BLaCKSMITH.com | tcoram(a)pobox.com Sardonic slaughterer of sacred cows.

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Re: Serial Port access from Squeak
by Andreas Raab 12 Jan '98

12 Jan '98

> If you're running on Unix (and probably Win32 too, but I don't know > much about it) then you can treat a serial line just like a regular > file. On Linux, for example: > > serial _ FileStream oldFileNamed: '/dev/ttyS0'. > serial nextPutAll: 'Hello, serial device!; cr. It may work but will have some disadvantages. You have to change the comm settings manually (using "stty" on Unix or "mode" on Dos/Win32). Also, using a semaphore for signaling incoming data is probably more convenient. But anyways, give it a try! Andreas -- Linear algebra is your friend - Trigonometry is your enemy. +===== Andreas Raab ============= (raab(a)isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de) =====+ I Department of Simulation and Graphics Phone: +49 391 671 8065 I I University of Magdeburg, Germany Fax: +49 391 671 1164 I +=============< http://isgwww.cs.uni-magdeburg.de/~raab >=============+

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Re: Java VM inside Smalltalk
by Travis Griggs 12 Jan '98

12 Jan '98

> For more info on the Smalltalk/X implementation of the JVM, go to: > http://home.t-online.de/home/exept/ then "Publications" then > "STJA '97 - Smalltalk/Java Integration in Smalltalk/X". > > | > |> Who knows where can I find the Smalltalk that have a Java VM inside the > |> Smalltalk VM ? Is it the Little Smalltalk? I am interested in look at > |> it to evaluate the posibility to build a Java VM inside the Squeak VM. > | > |It's in Smalltalk/X but as far as I know it is not released yet. You can also send email to info(a)exept.de. The person you'll be talking to is David Quenney (sp?), he handles all of their customer interfacing. I imagine you _may_ be able to get a copy to play with, especially if your in academia. -- Travis Griggs Key Technology tgriggs(a)keyww.com GO SMALLTALK - AND BEYOND!

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Serial Port access from Squeak
by Todd Coram 12 Jan '98

12 Jan '98

Hello All, A newbie question: I am interested in getting Squeak to control my Kodak DC20 digital camera (This camera is cheap <$200 and fun to play with). It connects to your computer's serial port and uses a very simple protocol (I have written controllers using Python and TCL in less than a couple of hours). My goal: Squeak + DC20 = cheap playground for digital photography. The problem: Squeak doesn't support serial port access (or does it?). Are there any Squeak modifications out there that have serial port access? (BTW, I would love to see such a feature become part of the core. One could implement it in a fairly portable fashion...) Right now, I am looking at writing a tiny "serial port" server in C that any program (including Squeak) can connect to using TCP. Of course, doing it this way would allow me to open the camera to all types of Web/Internet interfaces! But, right now I would be happy if I can get Squeak to talk to it directly (and maintaining cross-platform compatibility would be a big plus). Anyway, any suggestions would be appreciated. -- Todd Coram (Maroc Ddot) tcoram(a)BLaCKSMITH.com | tcoram(a)pobox.com Sardonic slaughterer of sacred cows.

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Use of Squeak in Class
by wallingf＠cs.uni.edu 12 Jan '98

12 Jan '98

I am teaching a course this semester on software systems, a large component of which is the design of user interfaces. Are any of you using Squeak in any courses as a tool for critiquing or building interfaces? If so, I would be interested in hearing about your experiences. None of my students will have programmed in Smalltalk before, so I will be getting them started during the course. As is standard, I would be happy to summarize the responses I receive back to the list for everyone's consideration. ---- Eugene

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Java VM inside Smalltalk
by Alejandro F. Reimondo 12 Jan '98

12 Jan '98

Who knows where can I find the Smalltalk that have a Java VM inside the Smalltalk VM ? Is it the Little Smalltalk? I am interested in look at it to evaluate the posibility to build a Java VM inside the Squeak VM. Thanks. Ale.

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Windows API calls for Squeak 1.23
by Alejandro F. Reimondo 12 Jan '98

12 Jan '98

I've implemented API calls for Squeak 1.23 under Windows. Framework supports source compatibility with Visual Smalltalk 3.1x and is expandable to support compatibility with Dolphin Smalltalk. You can download the package (300kb) from http://www.sugarweb.com/Miniatures/Files/SqApis.Zip or you can visit http://www.sugarWeb.com to see what is done in Smalltalk in Argentina SUGAR is not an adition to Java, it is Smalltalk User Group of ARgentina. :-) Follows readme file ------------------------------------------------------------------ Windows API Calls for Squeak 1.23 --------------------------------- Version: 0.7 This package works correctly but is incomplete and not fully debugged. Please report bugs and questions to Alejandro F. Reimondo at alereimondo(a)sugarWeb.com Feel free to visit http://www.sugarweb.com (Smalltalk User Group ARgentina) for more recent versions and other works on Smalltalk in Argentina. Intent: ------- Implementation for Windows API calls compatible with Visual Smalltalk (3.1x) extensible to other API mechanisms like SOM (under OS2), OLE and Dolphin Smalltalk API. An external library is seen as a subclass of DynamicLinkLibrary (for API calls) under category: 'Squeak External Calls'. If you want to connect a new library you must evaluate: Dynalink32 variableByteSubclass: #MyDLL instanceVariableNames: '' classVariableNames: '' poolDictionaries: '' category: 'Vsw310 - My DLLs' and implement the class method #fileName like: fileName "Answer the receiver's file name." ^'My.dll' To load the library you can inspect the result of evaluating MyDLL current inspect "The message #current returns an open instance of aDynamicLinkLibrary and it is treated as the default library; then when another object evaluates 'MyDLL current' the same object will be returned. If you want to open a new (fresh) instance you must send #open " To free aDynamicLinkLibrary you MUST send #release To implement an API call you must write a method. Each function provided by the DLL must be implemented as a Smalltalk method. API methods are methods like primitive methods but it has the <api: ...> descriptor (like <primitive:...> API methods must provide: 1.- the API function name 2.- the argument types 3.- the result type See methods of KernelDLL UserDLL GDIDLL as examples. API function name can be a symbol or a string matching to a function declared by the DLL. Argument types are the argument types (that can be obtained from the .H file) and must match the types defined by the class apiInfo (see DynamicLinkLibrary>>#apiInfo). Result type must be a valid API result defined by ApiInfo. Example: beep: frequency for: duration <api: Beep ulong ulong boolean> ^self invalidArgument Defines an API function named 'Beep' that can be declared as BOOL Beep (int frecuency, int duration) The #invalidArgument method is defined to validate posible API failure conditions. How to start: ------------- 0.- Decompress the ZIP file in a directory (al decompressed source files must be in the same directory). 1.- Start your favourite (1.23) image with the virtual machine (sq.exe) provided in this package. 2.- FileIn the file 'API FileMeIn.txt' (answer NO to re-definitions) 3.- Evaluate testing the expressions with printIt (or DoIt). Other topics of interest: ------------------------- "To build a new virtual machine source file evaluate this expressions." FileDirectory default deleteFileNamed: 'Interp.c'. Interpreter translate: 'Interp.c' doInlining: true. Limitations: ------------ 1.- The framework if partially implemented and only supports API calls. 2.- You must initialize the framework at image startUp (prior to do an API call) evaluating the expression DynamicLinkLibrary startUp. 3.- Currently the maximum of 20 arguments can be used in an API call. File List: ---------- sq.exe Virtual machine with API calls API FileMeIn.txt Installer file. Readme.txt This file. API Test Script.st Test scripts file. Squeak External Calls.st Full source file. (will be fragmented in the future) Vsw310 Compatibility.st Boot source file. -------------------------------------------end of readme--- Ale. Alejandro F. Reimondo Feel free to visit Smalltalk User Group of Argentina (SUGAR) at http://www.sugarWeb.com

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Re: On the security question... (wrong!)
by Christopher Oliver 12 Jan '98

12 Jan '98

> In a fit of pique I wrote: > > My concern is more along the lines of dumping images that contain > > passwords and session keys. I sit corrected. It doesn't seem that there is a reliable way to assure with a standard image that garbage is removed at dump time. Is there a way within 1.23 of forcing a trace-and-compact that I've not run across yet? -- Christopher Oliver Traverse Communications Systems Coordinator 223 Grandview Pkwy, Suite 108 oliver(a)traverse.com Traverse City, Michigan, 49684 (define magic (lambda (f) (lambda (x) x))) (define (more-magic n) (lambda (f) (lambda (x) (f ((n f) x)))))

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