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Fwd: [Vm-dev] Re: FreeBSD VM
by Ron Teitelbaum 12 Apr '23

12 Apr '23

---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda(a)gmail.com> Date: Tue, Apr 11, 2023, 6:35 PM Subject: [Vm-dev] Re: [Newbies] FreeBSD VM To: Open Smalltalk Virtual Machine Development Discussion < vm-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> On Apr 11, 2023, at 3:14 PM, Tobias Pape <Das.Linux(a)gmx.de> wrote: Hi David On 30. Mar 2023, at 16:09, David Gray <dgray(a)iesl.forth.gr> wrote: I’ve been trying to get a working VM for FreeBSD. However even though I manage to get the system to start and update itself it gives a segmentation error when I open a workspace and type any character at all. I used the latest linux64x64 cog.spur. Both the 6.0 and 5.3 images behaved the same. To get it to compile I had the comment out the Joystick plugin and edit the baud rates inside the serial plugin. I’m a complete beginner with squeak so I don’t know how to proceed from here. Based on your comments, I went and tried to verify that the VM still builds. I have made similar adjustments and was able to build a VM with the recents commits to the Cog branch of the VM. <Bildschirmfoto 2023-04-12 um 00.09.48.PNG> Can you please build a debug vm and try to recreate the error? I am very interested in that. Me too. If you launch the debug vm with the launch script you can pass the -gdb argument before the image to launch gdb. Then run and find out where it is crashing. opensmalltalk-vm/products/debug/sqcogspur64linuxht/squeak -gdb myimage.image Best regards -Tobias

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FreeBSD VM
by David Gray 12 Apr '23

12 Apr '23

I’ve been trying to get a working VM for FreeBSD. However even though I manage to get the system to start and update itself it gives a segmentation error when I open a workspace and type any character at all. I used the latest linux64x64 cog.spur. Both the 6.0 and 5.3 images behaved the same. To get it to compile I had the comment out the Joystick plugin and edit the baud rates inside the serial plugin. I’m a complete beginner with squeak so I don’t know how to proceed from here.

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Code not working
by Igor Raven 05 Mar '23

05 Mar '23

This code segment works for the presenter, Huw, at https://youtu.be/8ibI5bfssCU?list=PLZHx5heVfgEvuveKG1T7BBSuDOTHl1eLl&t=1481 but it fails for me. The Screen grab shows my code and error on left and working code on right. What am I missing? Please be gentle ;-) [image: image.png]

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SelectorBrowser: where is the action of RET stored?
by Eduardo Ochs 29 Jan '23

29 Jan '23

Hi list, I am trying to learn how to control a SelectorBrowser from code... I discovered that I can run the lines below one by one, sb := SelectorBrowser prototypicalToolWindow openInWorld. sb explore. (sb submorphs at: 4) editString: 'foo'. (sb submorphs at: 4) editString: 'bar'. and the "editString:" messages will change the string in the top left pane... I don't know its name yet, so let me call it the "search bar". What happens when we type RET in the "seach bar" of a SelectorBrowser? >From the user's point of view what happens is that it performs a search and all other panes are updated, but what happens in a lower level? I spent hours today exploring the SelectorBrowser and a few other related classes, but I could not find (yet) where is the method that converts a RET there to an action, or what is the default method associated to a RET in the search bar... Thanks in advance, and apologies for my newbieshness =S, Eduardo Ochs http://anggtwu.net/eev-squeak.html

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3D?
by Eduardo Ochs 27 Jan '23

27 Jan '23

Hi list, I'm a beginner with a weird background: my main language is Lua, so I found the chapters in "Squeak by Example" that are about the graphical interface a bit hard to follow - I had to do all the exercises twice - but in all the chapters about syntax and semantics everything made sense immediately - or at least I believe so... I haven't read the chapter about "Classes and Metaclasses" yet, I'll probably start it tomorrow... One thing that I would like to be able to implement in the next weeks or months would be a way to rotate a wireframe figure using sliders until I find a good viewpoint for it, and then I would export the parameters of that viewpoint to TikZ using copy and paste. The figures that I am working with are things like the .png below: http://anggtwu.net/2022eev-svg.html http://anggtwu.net/IMAGES/2022eev-svg-sela.png I explored the morphs a bit using World => new morph => from alphabetical list but I couldn't find anything that looked related to 3D, and AFAICS all the results for this search https://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/search?search=3D&casesensitive=true are very old, and the pages say that they don't work in recent Squeaks... Do you have any recommendations of starting points? Some package installable via Monticello, maybe? Thanks in advance! =) Eduardo Ochs http://angg.twu.net/ http://anggtwu.net/

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Autocomplete
by ppadilcdx＠gmail.com 24 Dec '22

24 Dec '22

I tried installing Autocomplete and it doesn't work for the trunk image following the Autocomplete instructions. I tried to undo the changes and reinstall OCompletion, but it is not offering completions any longer on any of the tools. I reinstalled OCompletion from the repository and still not working. Anyone has come across this issue and have any advise? Thanks in advance. Regards Pete

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ballon help does not update
by ppadilcdx＠gmail.com 20 Dec '22

20 Dec '22

Squeak6.1alpha - I attempted to set the ballon help font size but it doesn't take, i.e. it keeps the microscopic font size (on high resolution displays). Regards Pete

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Re: [Newbies] Beginners Digest, Vol 176, Issue 3
by P Padilcdx 19 Dec '22

19 Dec '22

Sorry if I was unclear on the second question. Squeak Inbox asked for email and other info but did not ask me for username/password. So was wondering where do I enter that info. I tried in InboxTalk->Settings->edit user info; but that did not ask for server info. Thank you for the info on the icons…that was great. Regards Pete > On Dec 2, 2022, at 1:20 PM, beginners-request(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org wrote: > > Send Beginners mailing list submissions to > beginners(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > beginners-request(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > beginners-owner(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Beginners digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Newbie questio (Ron Teitelbaum) > 2. Re: Newbie questio (Thiede, Christoph) > 3. [Newbie] System Browser method icon & Inbox Talk app (P Padilcdx) > 4. Re: [Newbie] System Browser method icon & Inbox Talk app > (christoph.thiede(a)student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2022 08:58:16 -0500 > From: Ron Teitelbaum <ron(a)usmedrec.com> > To: "A friendly place to get answers to even the most basic questions > about Squeak." <beginners(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> > Subject: Re: [Newbies] Newbie questio > Message-ID: > <CAEzdQ-c4DzhObPqEzQTwi6LAbP7xT-RtDsBuaOOmzBYwDyvszA(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi Pete, > > A few things. If you had a cascade of debuggers it is very difficult to > stop them. You need to stop the process that is generating them. There > are a few ways to do that. To halt the current process press Alt + . (press > and hold alt key then period) > > This is highly likely to get your process but it may not. If it looks like > your process you are good to go. You can try a few times and you might get > lucky. (press proceed if it is not your process). > > Since you are able to interact with the system on the World menu select: > open > process browser. You can find your process and then right click on > it and select debug. > > Also your code is safe. It is in your changes file. From the World menu > select: changes > recently logged changes ... and you will find your code. > This works even if you kill your image (as long as you don't replace the > changes file). > > Hope that helps! > > Ron Teitelbaum > > > > On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 12:16 AM P Padilcdx <ppadilcdx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Christoph >> >> I am using the 6.0 release. I was using a recursive algorithm. I did use >> the menu to close all the debuggers but more kept coming. I might have >> given up too early and force-quit Squeak. Just wondered if there was >> another magic trick. Thank you for the prompt reply! >> >> PS. Code was not saved due to the force-quit. But it was writing to the >> Transcript and from what I could deduce, that was the reason for the >> unlimited debugger windows with a “didNotUnderstand” at the top of the >> frames. Hope that makes sense. >> >> Regards >> Pete >> _______________________________________________ >> Beginners mailing list >> Beginners(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners >> >

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Re: [Newbies] Beginners Digest, Vol 176, Issue 3
by P Padilcdx 18 Dec '22

18 Dec '22

Found MailSender which allowed me to reset the info. But now I get a “connection closed while waiting for data” error.

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Multi-window browsers
by ppadilcdx＠gmail.com 13 Dec '22

13 Dec '22

I found a couple of bugs using multi-user browsers. First, is hard to click a button (I have the menu button on the left side) since the prompt to add or delete a window shows up for a large part of the title bar. Second, when using find class and then later select a different package, the "classes list" pane doesn't update and seems stuck on the package where the found class belongs. Regards Pete

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