Beginners June 2023

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FreeBSD VM
by David Gray 31 Aug '23

31 Aug '23

Finally managed to carve out some time to try this again. It looks like a few people have been looking into to this in the meantime (thanks a lot) and even though I can’t follow exactly what has been changed etc I can report that when I clone the latest opensmalltalk-vm I can get a working system. I can open a workspace and Try a few tests with no crashes: (10**22) sin -0.8522008497671888 fib := [ :n | n > 2 ifTrue: [(fib value: n-2) + (fib value: n-1)] ifFalse: [1]]. "closure on block variable" fib value: 30. 832040 | x t | x := #(30 36 42 54 66 69). [1 to: 6 do: [:a | Transcript show: (Time millisecondsToRun: [t := (fib value: (x at: a))]). Transcript show: ' '. Transcript show: t. Transcript cr. ] ] forkAt: Processor userBackgroundPriority. 1081502 / 1000 / 60.0 18.025033333333333 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10 55 Time durationToRun: [fib value: 42] 0:00:00:03.406797 2+2 4 I installed a clean FreeBSD 13 release. I used a minimal install for org and a simple wm: openbox Then did a git clone of: https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm <https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm> I changed the shell to bash then did: ./scripts/updateSCCSVersions Then I changed to opensmalltalk-vm/building/linux64x64/squeak.cog.spur/build Ran: ./mvm Down loaded the latest Squeak6.0-22104-64bit.image & .changes and renamed them in the dir to squeak.image & squeak.changes. I copied the SqueakV60.sources here too. ./squeak ran. I accepted all the defaults for configure & then installed system updates, FFI, and OS system. And that’s it.

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blobMorph not in A-C in morphs
by Quentin Asparria 19 Jun '23

19 Jun '23

Hello, Master Squeakers! I recently started the Squeak by Example book, but I have run into a problem: I cannot find the blobMorph. Does it still exist? Or was it removed in some update? Thanks, Quentin

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Re: Minimum Processor for Squeak
by Marcel Taeumel 12 Jun '23

12 Jun '23

Hi Stacy -- > What about instructions to get the environment up and running? Is it assumed that I know how to do this? There are instructions on the "Downloads" page: https://squeak.org/downloads/ There is more documentation in "Squeak by Example": https://squeak.org/documentation/ https://github.com/hpi-swa-lab/SqueakByExample-english/releases/download/5.… As a Windows user, just download Squeak into any folder (or just the Desktop) and then double-click the Squeak.exe. No need to get the "all-in-one" if you already know your operating system: http://files.squeak.org/6.0/Squeak6.0-22104-64bit/Squeak6.0-22104-64bit-202… There is a start-up wizard to get you set up. Etoys is still (kind of) working in Squeak 6.0. There are examples in the "Objects Bin", which you get with a left click on the background and then "objects (o)". Or try "new morph... > from alphabetical list". Don't be sad if something does not work but yells at you with a debugger window. Just close that window and try something else in the system. Plenty of stuff to explore. If you want to try out code, take a look at "Help > Terse Guide" from the docking bar at the top. And also open a "Workspace" via "Tools > Workspace". Type something, select it, and hit "Alt+D" or "Ctrl+D" on Windows/Linux: Morph new openInHand. self inform: 3+4. Tetris new openInWorld. There are right-click (or context/pop-up) menus all over the place. Almost any text field can evaluate code. If you have trouble with keyboard focus, click that morph again or try moving the mouse cursor out of it and into it again. Try clicking on visual stuff with the middle mouse button (typically the mouse wheel). A "Morphic Halo" will appear, allowing for direct exploration ... or rotation if you will ;-) Feel free to ask more questions as they arise. Please subscribe to and use either list so that we do not have to approve your messages manually (or discard them as spam by accident): https://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman3/lists/ https://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman3/lists/beginners.lists.squeakfou… https://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman3/lists/squeak-dev.lists.squeakfo… Happy Squeaking!! :-) Best, Marcel Am 10.06.2023 19:50:09 schrieb stacy smith <vet.goldrushstreaming(a)gmail.com>: I liked the trombone bit because I played trombone in 1) stage band, 2) concert band, and 3) marching band. Given Bruce's suggestion I should be okay. Last suggestion: What about instructions to get the environment up and running? Is it assumed that I know how to do this? Stacy On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 6:36 AM rabbit <rabbit(a)callistohouse.org [mailto:rabbit@callistohouse.org]> wrote: I would suggest my approach, especially without heavy gaming requirements. Find your local pawn shop that does computers (out of a handful of local pawn shops, 1 in particular will specialize in computers and 1 in particular will specialize in musical instruments) and go get a low-end laptop (& a trombone!) $200? I tend to wipe the disk and install Ubuntu, but I’m a long-time Linux lunatic. Windows does just fine. Best of luck! 🍀 ❤️‍🔥🐰 On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 07:25, Bruce O'Neel <bruce.oneel(a)pckswarms.ch [mailto:On+Sat,+Jun+10,+2023+at+07:25,+Bruce+O'Neel+%3C%3Ca+href=]> wrote: Hi So this might be better on Squeak-dev or Squeak-beginners, but I'll give it a shot: Squeak is quite light on system resources. It runs fine on a Raspberry Pi 3 with 1G of memory and a small SD Card. On startup it wants about 10% of that 1G of memory. On disk it should fit well within 150 to 200meg. I guess this will run Windows though, right? I suspect that the overhead will be larger. Does anyone run on a small Windows system? How is the performance? cheers bruce On 2023-06-08T23:21:49.000+02:00, stacy smith <vet.goldrushstreaming(a)gmail.com [mailto:vet.goldrushstreaming@gmail.com]> wrote: Greetings Squeakers, Please have someone respond to this email since I have never programmed before, and am not sure how to make sure my machine is compatible. Thanks, Stacy On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 4:49 PM stacy smith <vet.goldrushstreaming(a)gmail.com [mailto:vet.goldrushstreaming@gmail.com]> wrote: Greetings Squeakers, I am going to purchase myself and my 11 and 13 year old niece and nephew a cheap computer to learn Squeak. Any ideas? I am looking at the HP - Stream 11.6" Laptop - Intel Celeron - 4GB Memory - 64GB eMMC - Diamond White Thanks, Stacy Smith

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Re: [squeak-dev] Re: [Board] Re: Minimum Processor for Squeak
by rabbit 10 Jun '23

10 Jun '23

That’s total coincidence! LOL! Here’s our local community band I used to play with. Music starts at 2:35. https://youtu.be/OkPbJksQAWM ❤️‍🔥🐰 On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 13:49, stacy smith <[vet.goldrushstreaming@gmail.com](mailto:On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 13:49, stacy smith <<a href=)> wrote: > I liked the trombone bit because I played trombone in 1) stage band, 2) concert band, and 3) marching band. Given Bruce's suggestion I should be okay. > > Last suggestion: What about instructions to get the environment up and running? Is it assumed that I know how to do this? > > Stacy > > On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 6:36 AM rabbit <rabbit(a)callistohouse.org> wrote: > >> I would suggest my approach, especially without heavy gaming requirements. Find your local pawn shop that does computers (out of a handful of local pawn shops, 1 in particular will specialize in computers and 1 in particular will specialize in musical instruments) and go get a low-end laptop (& a trombone!) $200? >> >> I tend to wipe the disk and install Ubuntu, but I’m a long-time Linux lunatic. Windows does just fine. >> >> Best of luck! 🍀 >> >> ❤️‍🔥🐰 >> >> On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 07:25, Bruce O'Neel <[bruce.oneel@pckswarms.ch](mailto:On+Sat,+Jun+10,+2023+at+07:25,+Bruce+O'Neel+%3C%3Ca+href=)> wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> So this might be better on Squeak-dev or Squeak-beginners, but I'll give it a shot: >>> >>> Squeak is quite light on system resources. It runs fine on a Raspberry Pi 3 with 1G of memory and a small SD Card. On startup it wants about 10% of that 1G of memory. >>> >>> On disk it should fit well within 150 to 200meg. >>> >>> I guess this will run Windows though, right? I suspect that the overhead will be larger. Does anyone run on a small Windows system? How is the performance? >>> >>> cheers >>> >>> bruce >>> >>> On 2023-06-08T23:21:49.000+02:00, stacy smith <vet.goldrushstreaming(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Greetings Squeakers, >>>> >>>> Please have someone respond to this email since I have never programmed before, and am not sure how to make sure my machine is compatible. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Stacy >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 4:49 PM stacy smith <vet.goldrushstreaming(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Greetings Squeakers, >>>>> >>>>> I am going to purchase myself and my 11 and 13 year old niece and nephew a cheap computer to learn Squeak. Any ideas? >>>>> >>>>> I am looking at the >>>>> >>>>> HP - Stream 11.6" Laptop - Intel Celeron - 4GB Memory - 64GB eMMC - Diamond White >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Stacy Smith

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Re: [squeak-dev] Re: [Board] Re: Minimum Processor for Squeak
by rabbit 10 Jun '23

10 Jun '23

I would suggest my approach, especially without heavy gaming requirements. Find your local pawn shop that does computers (out of a handful of local pawn shops, 1 in particular will specialize in computers and 1 in particular will specialize in musical instruments) and go get a low-end laptop (& a trombone!) $200? I tend to wipe the disk and install Ubuntu, but I’m a long-time Linux lunatic. Windows does just fine. Best of luck! 🍀 ❤️‍🔥🐰 On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 07:25, Bruce O'Neel <[bruce.oneel@pckswarms.ch](mailto:On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 07:25, Bruce O'Neel <<a href=)> wrote: > Hi > > So this might be better on Squeak-dev or Squeak-beginners, but I'll give it a shot: > > Squeak is quite light on system resources. It runs fine on a Raspberry Pi 3 with 1G of memory and a small SD Card. On startup it wants about 10% of that 1G of memory. > > On disk it should fit well within 150 to 200meg. > > I guess this will run Windows though, right? I suspect that the overhead will be larger. Does anyone run on a small Windows system? How is the performance? > > cheers > > bruce > > On 2023-06-08T23:21:49.000+02:00, stacy smith <vet.goldrushstreaming(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Greetings Squeakers, >> >> Please have someone respond to this email since I have never programmed before, and am not sure how to make sure my machine is compatible. >> >> Thanks, >> Stacy >> >> On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 4:49 PM stacy smith <vet.goldrushstreaming(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Greetings Squeakers, >>> >>> I am going to purchase myself and my 11 and 13 year old niece and nephew a cheap computer to learn Squeak. Any ideas? >>> >>> I am looking at the >>> >>> HP - Stream 11.6" Laptop - Intel Celeron - 4GB Memory - 64GB eMMC - Diamond White >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Stacy Smith

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Installing Magma database
by elvio.fernandez＠gmail.com 03 Jun '23

03 Jun '23

Hi people, I'm relatively new to the Squeak world. I would like to know how to install Magma on my Squeak 6.0. I tried via SqueakMap (as documented in the swiki) but it doesn't work. I recently found on github https://github.com/magma-database/magma. How could I install Magma on my Squeak from this github repository? greetings Hesaw

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