[Newbie Perspective]
I was looking for tutorials, tracks or just about anything related to Smalltalk, Seaside at Oopsla2006 in Portland on October 22-26. I was disappointed to see that there isn't any Smalltalk related topic - what's up with that?
-bakki
PS: These are the closest things I could find-
Dynamic Languages Symposium (Program/Venues) ...ussion of dynamic languages, their implementation and applications. While mature dynamic languages including Smalltalk, Lisp, Scheme, and Prolog
T48: Totally Awesome Computing: Python as a General-Purpose Programming Language (Submission/Tutorials) ...nd their knowledge of the principles of programming languages, since advanced language features (like novel, SmallTalk-like applications of polymorphism) are so easy to teach in Python. Format: The p...
---sad to see that only mention of Smalltalk is to make a point that Python is great!
There will most certainly be Smalltalkers doing meets/BOFs/dinners, but perhaps not any official talks.
On Thursday, August 31, 2006, at 10:52AM, Bakki Kudva bakki.kudva@gmail.com wrote:
[Newbie Perspective]
I was looking for tutorials, tracks or just about anything related to Smalltalk, Seaside at Oopsla2006 in Portland on October 22-26. I was disappointed to see that there isn't any Smalltalk related topic - what's up with that?
-bakki
PS: These are the closest things I could find-
Dynamic Languages Symposium (Program/Venues) ...ussion of dynamic languages, their implementation and applications. While mature dynamic languages including Smalltalk, Lisp, Scheme, and Prolog
T48: Totally Awesome Computing: Python as a General-Purpose Programming Language (Submission/Tutorials) ...nd their knowledge of the principles of programming languages, since advanced language features (like novel, SmallTalk-like applications of polymorphism) are so easy to teach in Python. Format: The p...
---sad to see that only mention of Smalltalk is to make a point that Python is great! _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
People believe that Smalltalk is old, slow.... so after a while this is boring to fight with them. If you want to see a lot of Smalltalk, apply to the student volunteer program of ESUG next year and you will get a crazy conference for free with Smalltalk all day long.
Stef
On 31 août 06, at 19:52, Bakki Kudva wrote:
[Newbie Perspective]
I was looking for tutorials, tracks or just about anything related to Smalltalk, Seaside at Oopsla2006 in Portland on October 22-26. I was disappointed to see that there isn't any Smalltalk related topic - what's up with that?
-bakki
PS: These are the closest things I could find-
Dynamic Languages Symposium (Program/Venues) ...ussion of dynamic languages, their implementation and applications. While mature dynamic languages including Smalltalk, Lisp, Scheme, and Prolog
T48: Totally Awesome Computing: Python as a General-Purpose Programming Language (Submission/Tutorials) ...nd their knowledge of the principles of programming languages, since advanced language features (like novel, SmallTalk-like applications of polymorphism) are so easy to teach in Python. Format: The p...
---sad to see that only mention of Smalltalk is to make a point that Python is great! _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
The main reason there aren't any Smalltalk related events at OOPSLA is that people don't propose them. Posters, workshops and demos accept nearly all the proposals, so if you don't see any Smaltalk-related posters, workshops and demos then it means there were none proposed. OOPSLA accepts less than 20% of the papers that were submitted and less than half the tutorials, so the fact that there aren't any of these doesn't mean that none were proposed. It is hard to get papers accepted at OOPSLA, but Stephane had some Smalltalk papers accepted there recently, so it is still possible.
Certainly Smalltalk no longer has a buzz, but there are enough old Smalltalkers on the OOPSLA organizing committees that it is still possible to find people who appreciate it. And there are usually a hundred or so Smalltalkers who show up for OOPSLA so they want to have some things to make them happy. I think the main reason there aren't more Smalltalk-related events at OOPSLA is because Smalltalkers don't propose them.
-Ralph
true! May be next year we should propose a Smalltalk tutorial.
Stef
On 2 sept. 06, at 14:02, Ralph Johnson wrote:
The main reason there aren't any Smalltalk related events at OOPSLA is that people don't propose them. Posters, workshops and demos accept nearly all the proposals, so if you don't see any Smaltalk-related posters, workshops and demos then it means there were none proposed. OOPSLA accepts less than 20% of the papers that were submitted and less than half the tutorials, so the fact that there aren't any of these doesn't mean that none were proposed. It is hard to get papers accepted at OOPSLA, but Stephane had some Smalltalk papers accepted there recently, so it is still possible.
Certainly Smalltalk no longer has a buzz, but there are enough old Smalltalkers on the OOPSLA organizing committees that it is still possible to find people who appreciate it. And there are usually a hundred or so Smalltalkers who show up for OOPSLA so they want to have some things to make them happy. I think the main reason there aren't more Smalltalk-related events at OOPSLA is because Smalltalkers don't propose them.
-Ralph _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
Hi Stef,
Where I can get information on the student volunteer program for next year? What I need to do?
Cheers,
Offray
stéphane ducasse escribió:
People believe that Smalltalk is old, slow.... so after a while this is boring to fight with them. If you want to see a lot of Smalltalk, apply to the student volunteer program of ESUG next year and you will get a crazy conference for free with Smalltalk all day long.
Stef
On 31 août 06, at 19:52, Bakki Kudva wrote:
[Newbie Perspective]
I was looking for tutorials, tracks or just about anything related to Smalltalk, Seaside at Oopsla2006 in Portland on October 22-26. I was disappointed to see that there isn't any Smalltalk related topic - what's up with that?
-bakki
PS: These are the closest things I could find-
Dynamic Languages Symposium (Program/Venues) ...ussion of dynamic languages, their implementation and applications. While mature dynamic languages including Smalltalk, Lisp, Scheme, and Prolog
T48: Totally Awesome Computing: Python as a General-Purpose Programming Language (Submission/Tutorials) ...nd their knowledge of the principles of programming languages, since advanced language features (like novel, SmallTalk-like applications of polymorphism) are so easy to teach in Python. Format: The p...
---sad to see that only mention of Smalltalk is to make a point that Python is great! _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
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Not directly related, but Avi Bryant is an invited speaker at the attached Dynamic Languages Symposeum titled "Data Refactoring for Amateurs".
http://www.dcl.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/dls2006/openconf.php
On 9/1/06, Bakki Kudva bakki.kudva@gmail.com wrote:
[Newbie Perspective]
I was looking for tutorials, tracks or just about anything related to Smalltalk, Seaside at Oopsla2006 in Portland on October 22-26. I was disappointed to see that there isn't any Smalltalk related topic - what's up with that?
-bakki
PS: These are the closest things I could find-
Dynamic Languages Symposium (Program/Venues) ...ussion of dynamic languages, their implementation and applications. While mature dynamic languages including Smalltalk, Lisp, Scheme, and Prolog
T48: Totally Awesome Computing: Python as a General-Purpose Programming Language (Submission/Tutorials) ...nd their knowledge of the principles of programming languages, since advanced language features (like novel, SmallTalk-like applications of polymorphism) are so easy to teach in Python. Format: The p...
---sad to see that only mention of Smalltalk is to make a point that Python is great! _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
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