[squeak-dev] SMSqueakMapAdminView (was Maui 1.2 release 1)

Chris Muller asqueaker at gmail.com
Fri Apr 23 16:35:32 UTC 2010

Stéphane, what is this?  I never levelled anything personal at you or
anyone but you seem to have gotten personal..  I think we need to
*know* the capabilities and limits of the tools that are already
currently available to us, so we don't go reinventing too many things
that may not need to be.

I completely agree with you that the Squeaksource web-ui is extremely
unfriendly.  But that isn't what you said, you said that HttpView2
project was devoid of any descriptive sentence and that's why you
didn't like SqueakSource.  Perhaps the SqueakSource UI is responsible
for that, since it *is* poorly designed and hard to use, maybe that's
why someone didn't fill it in.  I can appreciate THAT.

I also appreciated Andreas' comments about the wiki tab of
Squeaksource.  I agree!

Let's keep the discussion about our toolset and what gaps need to be
filled.  There's nothing at all personal here.

 - Chris

2010/4/23 Stéphane Rollandin <lecteur at zogotounga.net>:
> Le 23/04/2010 07:18, Chris Muller a écrit :
>>> Very good example of what I dislike in Squeaksource: go to the above
>>> link,
>>> then try and find a *single sentence* explaining what this is about.
>>> None.
>>> Talk about documentation...
>> In this case, I guess you didn't click on the "wiki" tab to see the
>> reference to the already-published documentation..?
> Right, I missed this one (not even a link btw, only a raw address)
>> I really don't get it.  You said you don't like "Squeaksource" because
>> some human didn't put more information into it.  Hell, Squeaksource
>> gives humans an entire wiki tab to enter documentation, so isn't your
>> criticism misplaced?
> Listen, either you accept my feedback, or you don't. Both ways are fine.
> What is not fine is trying to have me feel like I'm the idiot that should be
> happy but isn't for some obscure reasons.
> In Squeaksource, I can't find my way, that's all there is to it. I can't
> find which packages do what, it looks to me like a robotic interface made
> for and by robots. I'm glad that humans at times put some info inside this
> thing, but see, I didn't even notice it (and yes I went to the wiki tab the
> first time also).
> So, weither or not you get it, weither or not you think I'm too dumb to use
> Squeaksource, here is my feedback about it: I dislike it because it's not
> welcoming to human beings. That's from my experience, and since I'm a
> 10-year Squeak (heavy) user, I guess I can be useful to all that I express
> this; negative feedback can be useful, too.
> Stef

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