[squeak-dev] The Inbox: Morphic-phite.429.mcz

Nicolas Cellier nicolas.cellier.aka.nice at gmail.com
Mon Apr 26 12:26:19 UTC 2010


2010/4/26 Hannes Hirzel <hannes.hirzel at gmail.com>:
> Thank you for the explanations. In particular reading the comment in
> the Pragma class was helpful. I feel now much more comfortable with
> the idea of using them. However I still think they are more related to
> VM primitives and configuration issues. The menu is a GUI related
> thing and having a MenuSpec feels somewhat more natural....
>
> --Hannes
>
> P.S. There are currently 854 methods which have a pragma in them.
>

That's why we should name them (Method) Annotation rather than Pragma...

Nicolas

> On 4/26/10, Levente Uzonyi <leves at elte.hu> wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 Apr 2010, Hannes Hirzel wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Philipp
>>>
>>> I took a fresh 4.1 image, updated it to 10012, and loaded
>>> Morphic-phite.429.mcz.
>>>
>>> As the comments were fine I was quickly able to write an example (code
>>> below).
>>>
>>> Then I had to choose 'Rebuild menus'
>>>
>>> It worked fine.
>>> The question is now (see another thread by Bert) if we should go or
>>> your solution (MenuSpec based) or the one by Steve Wessels (Pragma
>>> based).
>>
>> It's Balázs Kósi who implemented the registration method with pragmas
>> (http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2010-April/149534.html
>> ).
>>
>>>
>>> I do not feel too comfortable with pragmas yet whereas the MenuSpec is
>>> something I easily understand. And in addition I have the gut feeling
>>> that pragmas are meant for some more basic things (a kind of compiler
>>> directive, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directive_%28programming%29)
>>
>> Pragmas in Squeak are not directives (though they can be used as
>> directives) but a way to add metadata to a method. So the wikipedia page
>> is irrelevant. If take a look at the class comment of Pragma, you'll
>> feel more comfortable with them.
>> (I think that we should convert all preferences to pragma-style. It could
>> be a goal for 4.2.)
>>
>>>
>>> Like Bert  I would like to see some discussion **on this issue, but
>>> not too along as I would like to start using this feature asap.
>>
>> We should review both methods, consider the benefits and
>> drawbacks and then make a decision.
>>
>>
>> Levente
>>
>>>
>>> Hannes
>>>
>>> ** The thread started by Bert at
>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2010-April/149563.html
>>>
>>> -----------------------
>>> Model subclass: #MyReallyNiceApplication
>>>      instanceVariableNames: ''
>>>      classVariableNames: ''
>>>      poolDictionaries: ''
>>>      category: 'MyMenuTests'!
>>>
>>> "-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- "!
>>>
>>> MyReallyNiceApplication class
>>>      instanceVariableNames: ''!
>>>
>>> !MyReallyNiceApplication class methodsFor: 'as yet unclassified'
>>> stamp: 'hjh 4/26/2010 08:52'!
>>> menuEntrySpecification
>>>      "Test to add another entyr in the Help menu"
>>>
>>>
>>> ^MenuEntrySpec newForDockingBarFrom: (Dictionary newFromPairs: #(
>>>              #contents 'Hello?'
>>>              #location #('Help' 'a subMenu' 'another subMenu')
>>>              #target MenuMorph #selector #inform: #arguments #('Hello World!!')
>>>              ))
>>> ! !
>>>
>>>
>
>



More information about the Squeak-dev mailing list