Ok, we're getting no where with this.  I apologized to the 
list for what this thread has turned into, and I'll try to do 
a better job staying out of this sort of pointless "nu uh", 
"uh hu!", "nu uh!"
discussions in the future.  (if I start it again just warn 
me!  It's a bit of a weakness of mine).

    

You have nothing to apoligize about. Controversy is good when you need to
agitate the mind a little. IMHO "fencing of arguments" (plz not persons) is
healthy. Without that we will be frozen in comfort.

Please continue defending your thesis as long as they can survive. This is a
discussion list. So it is by definition.

	cheers,

Sebastian