From lenglish5@cox.net Mon Aug 1 08:03:12 2011 From: Lawson English To: beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: [Newbies] VB-Regex issue... Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 01:02:58 -0700 Message-ID: <4E365DB2.3000906@cox.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4120275101436478716==" --===============4120275101436478716== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit anyone familiar with VB-Regex package? this code should be returning an ordered collection of 25 hits (I thought). Instead it returns one long string of all 25 hits: http://pastebin.com/eGcX6vg2 source string: http://pastebin.com/AkyQrXGD I've been playing with this one for an several hours. I can't tell if the strings are too complicated or if I'm just using the wrong syntax, though the simple example works just fine. '\w+' asRegex matchesIn: 'Now is the Time' => an OrderedCollection('Now' 'is' 'the' 'Time') Thanks. Lawson --===============4120275101436478716==-- From hebbarp@gmail.com Mon Aug 1 10:14:58 2011 From: Prashanth Hebbar To: beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Newbies] VB-Regex issue... Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 15:44:58 +0530 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4E365DB2.3000906@cox.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4330865352342900680==" --===============4330865352342900680== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Lawson English wrote: > anyone familiar with VB-Regex package? > this code should be returning an ordered collection of 25 hits (I thought). > Instead it returns one long string of all 25 hits: > http://pastebin.com/eGcX6vg2 > source string: http://pastebin.com/AkyQrXGD > I've been playing with this one for an several hours. I can't tell if the > strings are too complicated or if I'm just using the wrong syntax, though > the simple example works just fine. > > '\w+' asRegex matchesIn: 'Now is the Time' => an OrderedCollection('Now' > 'is' 'the' 'Time') > > > Perhaps it was the string size which has multiple quotes and is not all escaped. Sean DeNigris writes about an interesting trick to preserve all the quotation marks inside long strings, especially html-strings. See this post from Sean for this trick http://seandenigris.com/blog/?p=647. This code returns the OrderedCollection as expected by you. source := htmltext678 contents. aString := '(.*).'. matcher := RxMatcher forString: aString. matcher matchesIn: source. "Transcript show: (matcher matchesIn: source); cr." The htmltext678 is the TextMorph where I stored your html page and extracted the contents to preserve all inline quotes. I took a shorter match-string (aString). One thing i noticed in the referred code that there was an ordered collection being created which wasn't doing anything. 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Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 06:04:50 -0700 Message-ID: <4E36A472.6060307@cox.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6458788132112848939==" --===============6458788132112848939== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 8/1/11 3:14 AM, Prashanth Hebbar wrote: > See this post from Sean for this trick > http://seandenigris.com/blog/?p=647. Thanks for the tip. I'll use it from now on, just in case. However, it turns out that my ancient eyes were missing a few extra symbols in the html, and once I more carefully set up my regex, I started getting hits. Lawson --===============6458788132112848939==-- From garydunnhi@gmail.com Thu Aug 4 00:44:23 2011 From: Gary Dunn To: beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: [Newbies] Making a Morphic Book released, please critique Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 14:44:22 -1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3710409068158999195==" --===============3710409068158999195== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have released a first version of my first Chalk Dust book, "How to Make a Chalk Dust Morphic Book." This book makes a reference to my next book, which describes using the Squeak mouse. That should be done soon. The intended audience for this book is a teacher or college student who is at least a beginner at using Squeak -- this book does not teach someone how to use Squeak, but it does focus on fundamentals relavent to using a book morph. The intended audience for Chalk Dust books are students at the middle and high school level, say 14 - 18 years old. An older demographic than OLPC. One of the goals for this effort is to use Squeak "out of the box." I realize that to you folks, a little code here and there is easy. Picture an alternative to PowerPoint and you will be close to what I have in mind. As an author gains experience with Squeak they should be able to create increasingly fancy books. If anyone has some time (ha ha) I would appreciate any and all comments, starting with spelling and grammer and going up from there as far as you like. After I have had time to incorporate your suggestions I will make a formal announcement on the Open Slate web site and mailing list. Read about the new book on the wiki: http://wiki.openslate.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=3DChalk_Dust_Applications= :Squeak_Projects#Squeak_Projects Link to the project file: http://www.aloha.com/~knowtree/openslate/projects/ChalkDust_MakingAMorphicBoo= k.032.pr In closing let me say thanks to all of you who have responded to my queations here. --=20 Gary Dunn Open Slate Project Honolulu --===============3710409068158999195== Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="attachment.html" MIME-Version: 1.0 SSBoYXZlIHJlbGVhc2VkIGEgZmlyc3QgdmVyc2lvbiBvZiBteSBmaXJzdCBDaGFsayBEdXN0IGJv b2ssICZxdW90O0hvdyB0byBNYWtlIGEgQ2hhbGsgRHVzdCBNb3JwaGljIEJvb2suJnF1b3Q7IFRo aXMgYm9vayBtYWtlcyBhIHJlZmVyZW5jZSB0byBteSBuZXh0IGJvb2ssIHdoaWNoIGRlc2NyaWJl cyB1c2luZyB0aGUgU3F1ZWFrIG1vdXNlLiBUaGF0IHNob3VsZCBiZSBkb25lIHNvb24uIFRoZSBp bnRlbmRlZCBhdWRpZW5jZSBmb3IgdGhpcyBib29rIGlzIGEgdGVhY2hlciBvciBjb2xsZWdlIHN0 dWRlbnQgd2hvIGlzIGF0IGxlYXN0IGEgYmVnaW5uZXIgYXQgdXNpbmcgU3F1ZWFrIC0tIHRoaXMg Ym9vayBkb2VzIG5vdCB0ZWFjaCBzb21lb25lIGhvdyB0byB1c2UgU3F1ZWFrLCBidXQgaXQgZG9l cyBmb2N1cyBvbiBmdW5kYW1lbnRhbHMgcmVsYXZlbnQgdG8gdXNpbmcgYSBib29rIG1vcnBoLiBU aGUgaW50ZW5kZWQgYXVkaWVuY2UgZm9yIENoYWxrIER1c3QgYm9va3MgYXJlIHN0dWRlbnRzIGF0 IHRoZSBtaWRkbGUgYW5kIGhpZ2ggc2Nob29sIGxldmVsLCBzYXkgMTQgLSAxOCB5ZWFycyBvbGQu IEFuIG9sZGVyIGRlbW9ncmFwaGljIHRoYW4gT0xQQy48ZGl2Pgo8YnI+PC9kaXY+PGRpdj5PbmUg b2YgdGhlIGdvYWxzIGZvciB0aGlzIGVmZm9ydCBpcyB0byB1c2UgU3F1ZWFrICZxdW90O291dCBv ZiB0aGUgYm94LiZxdW90OyBJIHJlYWxpemUgdGhhdCB0byB5b3UgZm9sa3MsIGEgbGl0dGxlIGNv ZGUgaGVyZSBhbmQgdGhlcmUgaXMgZWFzeS4gUGljdHVyZSBhbiBhbHRlcm5hdGl2ZSB0byBQb3dl clBvaW50IGFuZCB5b3Ugd2lsbCBiZSBjbG9zZSB0byB3aGF0IEkgaGF2ZSBpbiBtaW5kLiBBcyBh biBhdXRob3IgZ2FpbnMgZXhwZXJpZW5jZSB3aXRoIFNxdWVhayB0aGV5IHNob3VsZCBiZSBhYmxl IHRvIGNyZWF0ZSBpbmNyZWFzaW5nbHkgZmFuY3kgYm9va3MuPGJyPgo8ZGl2Pjxicj48L2Rpdj48 ZGl2PklmIGFueW9uZSBoYXMgc29tZSB0aW1lIChoYSBoYSkgSSB3b3VsZCBhcHByZWNpYXRlIGFu eSBhbmQgYWxsIGNvbW1lbnRzLCBzdGFydGluZyB3aXRoIHNwZWxsaW5nIGFuZCBncmFtbWVyIGFu ZCBnb2luZyB1cCBmcm9tIHRoZXJlIGFzIGZhciBhcyB5b3UgbGlrZS4gQWZ0ZXIgSSBoYXZlIGhh ZCB0aW1lIHRvIGluY29ycG9yYXRlIHlvdXIgc3VnZ2VzdGlvbnMgSSB3aWxsIG1ha2UgYSBmb3Jt YWwgYW5ub3VuY2VtZW50IG9uIHRoZSBPcGVuIFNsYXRlIHdlYiBzaXRlIGFuZCBtYWlsaW5nIGxp c3QuPC9kaXY+CjxkaXY+PGJyPjwvZGl2PjxkaXY+UmVhZCBhYm91dCB0aGUgbmV3IGJvb2sgb24g dGhlIHdpa2k6PC9kaXY+PGRpdj48YnI+PC9kaXY+PGRpdj48YSBocmVmPSJodHRwOi8vd2lraS5v cGVuc2xhdGUubmV0L21lZGlhd2lraS9pbmRleC5waHA/dGl0bGU9Q2hhbGtfRHVzdF9BcHBsaWNh dGlvbnM6U3F1ZWFrX1Byb2plY3RzI1NxdWVha19Qcm9qZWN0cyI+aHR0cDovL3dpa2kub3BlbnNs YXRlLm5ldC9tZWRpYXdpa2kvaW5kZXgucGhwP3RpdGxlPUNoYWxrX0R1c3RfQXBwbGljYXRpb25z OlNxdWVha19Qcm9qZWN0cyNTcXVlYWtfUHJvamVjdHM8L2E+PC9kaXY+CjxkaXY+PGJyPjwvZGl2 PjxkaXY+TGluayB0byB0aGUgcHJvamVjdCBmaWxlOjwvZGl2PjxkaXY+PGJyPjwvZGl2PjxkaXY+ PGEgaHJlZj0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy5hbG9oYS5jb20vfmtub3d0cmVlL29wZW5zbGF0ZS9wcm9qZWN0 cy9DaGFsa0R1c3RfTWFraW5nQU1vcnBoaWNCb29rLjAzMi5wciI+aHR0cDovL3d3dy5hbG9oYS5j b20vfmtub3d0cmVlL29wZW5zbGF0ZS9wcm9qZWN0cy9DaGFsa0R1c3RfTWFraW5nQU1vcnBoaWNC b29rLjAzMi5wcjwvYT48L2Rpdj4KPGRpdj48YnI+PC9kaXY+PGRpdj5JbiBjbG9zaW5nIGxldCBt ZSBzYXkgdGhhbmtzIHRvIGFsbCBvZiB5b3Ugd2hvIGhhdmUgcmVzcG9uZGVkIHRvIG15IHF1ZWF0 aW9ucyBoZXJlLjxiciBjbGVhcj0iYWxsIj48YnI+LS0gPGJyPkdhcnkgRHVubjwvZGl2PjxkaXY+ T3BlbiBTbGF0ZSBQcm9qZWN0PGJyPkhvbm9sdWx1PGJyPgo8L2Rpdj48L2Rpdj4K --===============3710409068158999195==-- From sthomas1@gosargon.com Thu Aug 4 02:00:29 2011 From: Steve Thomas To: beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Newbies] Making a Morphic Book released, please critique Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 22:00:27 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0881441870839142126==" --===============0881441870839142126== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gary, On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Gary Dunn wrote: > One of the goals for this effort is to use Squeak "out of the box." I > realize that to you folks, a little code here and there is easy. Picture an > alternative to PowerPoint and you will be close to what I have in mind. As > an author gains experience with Squeak they should be able to create > increasingly fancy books. A very good goal. Have you considered using Etoys as a PowerPoint alternative? If your target is 14-18 year olds, this may be a much easier on-ramp for them. Your ideas and documentation are good a similar version for Etoys (perhaps using Event Theater to demonstrate how certain things are done would be nice as you can create "screencasts" within Etoys, just be sure not to move the mouse too quickly as it can cause problems). > If anyone has some time (ha ha) I would appreciate any and all comments, > starting with spelling and grammer and going up from there as far as you > like. After I have had time to incorporate your suggestions I will make a > formal announcement on the Open Slate web site and mailing list. > One idea is some sample books, perhaps along with screencasts on YouTube or embedded within the project using Event Theater to demonstrate how you made them. --===============0881441870839142126== Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="attachment.html" MIME-Version: 1.0 R2FyeSw8YnI+PGJyPjxkaXYgY2xhc3M9ImdtYWlsX3F1b3RlIj5PbiBXZWQsIEF1ZyAzLCAyMDEx IGF0IDg6NDQgUE0sIEdhcnkgRHVubiA8c3BhbiBkaXI9Imx0ciI+Jmx0OzxhIGhyZWY9Im1haWx0 bzpnYXJ5ZHVubmhpQGdtYWlsLmNvbSI+Z2FyeWR1bm5oaUBnbWFpbC5jb208L2E+Jmd0Ozwvc3Bh bj4gd3JvdGU6PGJyPjxibG9ja3F1b3RlIGNsYXNzPSJnbWFpbF9xdW90ZSIgc3R5bGU9Im1hcmdp bjowIDAgMCAuOGV4O2JvcmRlci1sZWZ0OjFweCAjY2NjIHNvbGlkO3BhZGRpbmctbGVmdDoxZXg7 Ij4KT25lIG9mIHRoZSBnb2FscyBmb3IgdGhpcyBlZmZvcnQgaXMgdG8gdXNlIFNxdWVhayAmcXVv dDtvdXQgb2YgdGhlIGJveC4mcXVvdDsgSSByZWFsaXplIHRoYXQgdG8geW91IGZvbGtzLCBhIGxp dHRsZSBjb2RlIGhlcmUgYW5kIHRoZXJlIGlzIGVhc3kuIFBpY3R1cmUgYW4gYWx0ZXJuYXRpdmUg dG8gUG93ZXJQb2ludCBhbmQgeW91IHdpbGwgYmUgY2xvc2UgdG8gd2hhdCBJIGhhdmUgaW4gbWlu ZC4gQXMgYW4gYXV0aG9yIGdhaW5zIGV4cGVyaWVuY2Ugd2l0aCBTcXVlYWsgdGhleSBzaG91bGQg YmUgYWJsZSB0byBjcmVhdGUgaW5jcmVhc2luZ2x5IGZhbmN5IGJvb2tzLjwvYmxvY2txdW90ZT4K PGRpdj5BIHZlcnkgZ29vZCBnb2FsLiCgSGF2ZSB5b3UgY29uc2lkZXJlZCB1c2luZyBFdG95cyBh cyBhIFBvd2VyUG9pbnQgYWx0ZXJuYXRpdmU/IKAgSWYgeW91ciB0YXJnZXQgaXMgMTQtMTggeWVh ciBvbGRzLCB0aGlzIG1heSBiZSBhIG11Y2ggZWFzaWVyIG9uLXJhbXAgZm9yIHRoZW0uIKBZb3Vy IGlkZWFzIGFuZCBkb2N1bWVudGF0aW9uIGFyZSBnb29kIGEgc2ltaWxhciB2ZXJzaW9uIGZvciBF dG95cyAocGVyaGFwcyB1c2luZyBFdmVudCBUaGVhdGVyIHRvIGRlbW9uc3RyYXRlIGhvdyBjZXJ0 YWluIHRoaW5ncyBhcmUgZG9uZSB3b3VsZCBiZSBuaWNlIGFzIHlvdSBjYW4gY3JlYXRlICZxdW90 O3NjcmVlbmNhc3RzJnF1b3Q7IHdpdGhpbiBFdG95cywganVzdCBiZSBzdXJlIG5vdCB0byBtb3Zl IHRoZSBtb3VzZSB0b28gcXVpY2tseSBhcyBpdCBjYW4gY2F1c2UgcHJvYmxlbXMpLjwvZGl2Pgo8 ZGl2PqA8L2Rpdj48YmxvY2txdW90ZSBjbGFzcz0iZ21haWxfcXVvdGUiIHN0eWxlPSJtYXJnaW46 MCAwIDAgLjhleDtib3JkZXItbGVmdDoxcHggI2NjYyBzb2xpZDtwYWRkaW5nLWxlZnQ6MWV4OyI+ PGRpdj48ZGl2PklmIGFueW9uZSBoYXMgc29tZSB0aW1lIChoYSBoYSkgSSB3b3VsZCBhcHByZWNp YXRlIGFueSBhbmQgYWxsIGNvbW1lbnRzLCBzdGFydGluZyB3aXRoIHNwZWxsaW5nIGFuZCBncmFt bWVyIGFuZCBnb2luZyB1cCBmcm9tIHRoZXJlIGFzIGZhciBhcyB5b3UgbGlrZS4gQWZ0ZXIgSSBo YXZlIGhhZCB0aW1lIHRvIGluY29ycG9yYXRlIHlvdXIgc3VnZ2VzdGlvbnMgSSB3aWxsIG1ha2Ug YSBmb3JtYWwgYW5ub3VuY2VtZW50IG9uIHRoZSBPcGVuIFNsYXRlIHdlYiBzaXRlIGFuZCBtYWls aW5nIGxpc3QuPC9kaXY+CjwvZGl2PjwvYmxvY2txdW90ZT48ZGl2Pk9uZSBpZGVhIGlzIHNvbWUg c2FtcGxlIGJvb2tzLCBwZXJoYXBzIGFsb25nIHdpdGggc2NyZWVuY2FzdHMgb24gWW91VHViZSBv ciBlbWJlZGRlZCB3aXRoaW4gdGhlIHByb2plY3QgdXNpbmcgRXZlbnQgVGhlYXRlciB0byBkZW1v bnN0cmF0ZSBob3cgeW91IG1hZGUgdGhlbS48L2Rpdj48L2Rpdj4K --===============0881441870839142126==-- From garydunnhi@gmail.com Thu Aug 4 02:44:24 2011 From: Gary Dunn To: beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Newbies] Making a Morphic Book released, please critique Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 16:44:23 -1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8145239355321784692==" --===============8145239355321784692== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I will consider using Etoys instead. Squeak just feels more like what Alan Kay and Seymour Papert had in mind. Screencasts have their place. I just don't like the idea of going outside of Squeak to teach someone how to teach using Squeak. We need to bring back multimedia. Thanks for taking the time to comment. I'll look more at how to make a screencast. Gary Dunn Open Slate Project http://openslate.org On Aug 3, 2011 4:00 PM, "Steve Thomas" wrote: Gary, On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Gary Dunn wrote: > > One of the goals for thi... A very good goal. Have you considered using Etoys as a PowerPoint alternative? If your target is 14-18 year olds, this may be a much easier on-ramp for them. Your ideas and documentation are good a similar version for Etoys (perhaps using Event Theater to demonstrate how certain things are done would be nice as you can create "screencasts" within Etoys, just be sure not to move the mouse too quickly as it can cause problems). > > If anyone has some time (ha ha) I would appreciate any and all comments, starting with spelli... One idea is some sample books, perhaps along with screencasts on YouTube or embedded within the project using Event Theater to demonstrate how you made them. _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list Beginners(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners --===============8145239355321784692== Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="attachment.html" MIME-Version: 1.0 PHA+SSB3aWxsIGNvbnNpZGVyIHVzaW5nIEV0b3lzIGluc3RlYWQuIFNxdWVhayBqdXN0IGZlZWxz IG1vcmUgbGlrZSB3aGF0IEFsYW4gS2F5IGFuZCBTZXltb3VyIFBhcGVydCBoYWQgaW4gbWluZC48 L3A+CjxwPlNjcmVlbmNhc3RzIGhhdmUgdGhlaXIgcGxhY2UuIEkganVzdCBkb24mIzM5O3QgbGlr ZSB0aGUgaWRlYSBvZiBnb2luZyBvdXRzaWRlIG9mIFNxdWVhayB0byB0ZWFjaCBzb21lb25lIGhv dyB0byB0ZWFjaCB1c2luZyBTcXVlYWsuIFdlIG5lZWQgdG8gYnJpbmcgYmFjayBtdWx0aW1lZGlh LjwvcD4KPHA+VGhhbmtzIGZvciB0YWtpbmcgdGhlIHRpbWUgdG8gY29tbWVudC4gSSYjMzk7bGwg bG9vayBtb3JlIGF0IGhvdyB0byBtYWtlIGEgc2NyZWVuY2FzdC48L3A+CjxwPkdhcnkgRHVubjxi cj4KT3BlbiBTbGF0ZSBQcm9qZWN0PGJyPgo8YSBocmVmPSJodHRwOi8vb3BlbnNsYXRlLm9yZyI+ aHR0cDovL29wZW5zbGF0ZS5vcmc8L2E+PC9wPgo8cD48YmxvY2txdW90ZSB0eXBlPSJjaXRlIj5P biBBdWcgMywgMjAxMSA0OjAwIFBNLCAmcXVvdDtTdGV2ZSBUaG9tYXMmcXVvdDsgJmx0OzxhIGhy ZWY9Im1haWx0bzpzdGhvbWFzMUBnb3Nhcmdvbi5jb20iPnN0aG9tYXMxQGdvc2FyZ29uLmNvbTwv YT4mZ3Q7IHdyb3RlOjxicj48YnI+R2FyeSw8YnI+PGJyPjxkaXYgY2xhc3M9ImdtYWlsX3F1b3Rl Ij48cD48Zm9udCBjb2xvcj0iIzUwMDA1MCI+T24gV2VkLCBBdWcgMywgMjAxMSBhdCA4OjQ0IFBN LCBHYXJ5IER1bm4gJmx0OzxhIGhyZWY9Im1haWx0bzpnYXJ5ZHVubmhpQGdtYWlsLmNvbSI+Z2Fy eWR1bm5oaUBnbWFpbC5jb208L2E+Jmd0OyB3cm90ZTo8YnI+CiZndDs8YnI+Jmd0OyBPbmUgb2Yg dGhlIGdvYWxzIGZvciB0aGkuLi48L2ZvbnQ+PC9wPjxkaXY+QSB2ZXJ5IGdvb2QgZ29hbC4goEhh dmUgeW91IGNvbnNpZGVyZWQgdXNpbmcgRXRveXMgYXMgYSBQb3dlclBvaW50IGFsdGVybmF0aXZl PyCgIElmIHlvdXIgdGFyZ2V0IGlzIDE0LTE4IHllYXIgb2xkcywgdGhpcyBtYXkgYmUgYSBtdWNo IGVhc2llciBvbi1yYW1wIGZvciB0aGVtLiCgWW91ciBpZGVhcyBhbmQgZG9jdW1lbnRhdGlvbiBh cmUgZ29vZCBhIHNpbWlsYXIgdmVyc2lvbiBmb3IgRXRveXMgKHBlcmhhcHMgdXNpbmcgRXZlbnQg VGhlYXRlciB0byBkZW1vbnN0cmF0ZSBob3cgY2VydGFpbiB0aGluZ3MgYXJlIGRvbmUgd291bGQg YmUgbmljZSBhcyB5b3UgY2FuIGNyZWF0ZSAmcXVvdDtzY3JlZW5jYXN0cyZxdW90OyB3aXRoaW4g RXRveXMsIGp1c3QgYmUgc3VyZSBub3QgdG8gbW92ZSB0aGUgbW91c2UgdG9vIHF1aWNrbHkgYXMg aXQgY2FuIGNhdXNlIHByb2JsZW1zKS48L2Rpdj4KPHA+PGZvbnQgY29sb3I9IiM1MDAwNTAiPjxi cj6gPGJyPiZndDs8YnI+Jmd0OyBJZiBhbnlvbmUgaGFzIHNvbWUgdGltZSAoaGEgaGEpIEkgd291 bGQgYXBwcmVjaWF0ZSBhbnkgYW5kIGFsbCBjb21tZW50cywgc3RhcnRpbmcgd2l0aCBzcGVsbGku Li48L2ZvbnQ+PC9wPjxkaXY+T25lIGlkZWEgaXMgc29tZSBzYW1wbGUgYm9va3MsIHBlcmhhcHMg YWxvbmcgd2l0aCBzY3JlZW5jYXN0cyBvbiBZb3VUdWJlIG9yIGVtYmVkZGVkIHdpdGhpbiB0aGUg cHJvamVjdCB1c2luZyBFdmVudCBUaGVhdGVyIHRvIGRlbW9uc3RyYXRlIGhvdyB5b3UgbWFkZSB0 aGVtLjwvZGl2Pgo8L2Rpdj4KPGJyPl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fPGJyPgpCZWdpbm5lcnMgbWFpbGluZyBsaXN0PGJyPgo8YSBocmVmPSJtYWls dG86QmVnaW5uZXJzQGxpc3RzLnNxdWVha2ZvdW5kYXRpb24ub3JnIj5CZWdpbm5lcnNAbGlzdHMu c3F1ZWFrZm91bmRhdGlvbi5vcmc8L2E+PGJyPgo8YSBocmVmPSJodHRwOi8vbGlzdHMuc3F1ZWFr Zm91bmRhdGlvbi5vcmcvbWFpbG1hbi9saXN0aW5mby9iZWdpbm5lcnMiIHRhcmdldD0iX2JsYW5r Ij5odHRwOi8vbGlzdHMuc3F1ZWFrZm91bmRhdGlvbi5vcmcvbWFpbG1hbi9saXN0aW5mby9iZWdp bm5lcnM8L2E+PGJyPgo8YnI+PC9ibG9ja3F1b3RlPjwvcD4K --===============8145239355321784692==-- From sthomas1@gosargon.com Thu Aug 4 10:21:29 2011 From: Steve Thomas To: beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Newbies] Making a Morphic Book released, please critique Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 06:21:27 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8023788929101500792==" --===============8023788929101500792== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Gary Dunn wrote: > I will consider using Etoys instead. Squeak just feels more like what Alan > Kay and Seymour Papert had in mind. > Etoys came from Alan and his group at VPRI (see: http://www.squeakland.org/about/people/) > Screencasts have their place. I just don't like the idea of going outside > of Squeak to teach someone how to teach using Squeak. We need to bring back > multimedia. > Agreed, multimedia is definitely needed. Event Theater inside Etoys allows for "screencasting" within Etoys. The advantage of a YouTube video (or vimeo et al) is that it helps you reach a wider audience and introduce them to the ideas. > Thanks for taking the time to comment. I'll look more at how to make a > screencast. > If you have a Mac (10.6 or higher and iMovie I created a blog post on how to create a screencast here Cheers, Stephen > Gary Dunn > Open Slate Project > http://openslate.org > > On Aug 3, 2011 4:00 PM, "Steve Thomas" wrote: > > Gary, > > On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Gary Dunn wrote: > > > > One of the goals for thi... > > A very good goal. Have you considered using Etoys as a PowerPoint > alternative? If your target is 14-18 year olds, this may be a much easier > on-ramp for them. Your ideas and documentation are good a similar version > for Etoys (perhaps using Event Theater to demonstrate how certain things are > done would be nice as you can create "screencasts" within Etoys, just be > sure not to move the mouse too quickly as it can cause problems). > > > > > > > If anyone has some time (ha ha) I would appreciate any and all comments, > starting with spelli... > One idea is some sample books, perhaps along with screencasts on YouTube or > embedded within the project using Event Theater to demonstrate how you made > them. > > _______________________________________________ > Beginners mailing list > Beginners(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners > > > _______________________________________________ > Beginners mailing list > Beginners(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners > > --===============8023788929101500792== Content-Type: text/html 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DeNigris" To: beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: [Newbies] Re: Omnibrowser help Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 08:31:58 -0700 Message-ID: <1313335918708-3743076.post@n4.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <47DFD8C6.7020200@c3com.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9152343845197222611==" --===============9152343845197222611== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David R=C3=B6thlisberger wrote: >=20 > First, create a subclass of OBCommand. Then you need to implement at least > the=20 > methods #execute, #label and #isActive (have a look at eg. > OBCmdNewClassTemplate).=20 > Finally, you can add a method called eg. 'cmdAIDATemplate' to > OBCodeBrowser or a=20 > subclass of it. It is important that this method starts with 'cmd'. >=20 David, if you're still on the list - thank you! Three years later, this post saved my day :) -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Omnibrowser-help-tp111418= p3743076.html Sent from the Squeak - Beginners mailing list archive at Nabble.com. --===============9152343845197222611==-- From bronta@rambler.ru Tue Aug 23 04:18:41 2011 From: bronta@rambler.ru To: beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: [Newbies] Install squeak on BSD Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 08:23:28 +0400 Message-ID: <355316854.1314073408.84311304.76946@mperl6.rambler.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0167555437536111339==" --===============0167555437536111339== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hallo! I'm trying to install squeak from sources on FreeBSD 8.2. I read Readme and followed it's instructions. But when I run squeak I get error: "Could not find display driver vm-display-X11; either:check that /usr/local/lib/squeak/3.10-6/vm-display-X11.so exists" I found this topic in bug tracker: http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7451 As I understood docs are incorrect and I must use cmake instead of make. I used "cmake -i" command and got this message: "CMake Error: The source directory "/home/.../Squeak-4.4.7.2357-src/bld" does not appear to contain CMakeLists.txt." Actually I don't know anything about cmake utility. And I need instructions how to build squeak. Please help! --===============0167555437536111339==-- From lewis@mail.msen.com Tue Aug 23 11:28:27 2011 From: "David T. Lewis" To: beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Newbies] Install squeak on BSD Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 07:28:26 -0400 Message-ID: <20110823112826.GA93424@shell.msen.com> In-Reply-To: <355316854.1314073408.84311304.76946@mperl6.rambler.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6306235097716172545==" --===============6306235097716172545== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 08:23:28AM +0400, bronta(a)rambler.ru wrote: > Hallo! > I'm trying to install squeak from sources on FreeBSD 8.2. I read Readme > and followed it's instructions. But when I run squeak I get error: > "Could not find display driver vm-display-X11; either:check that > /usr/local/lib/squeak/3.10-6/vm-display-X11.so exists" > I found this topic in bug tracker: > http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7451 > As I understood docs are incorrect and I must use cmake instead of make. > I used "cmake -i" command and got this message: "CMake Error: The source > directory "/home/.../Squeak-4.4.7.2357-src/bld" does not appear to > contain CMakeLists.txt." > Actually I don't know anything about cmake utility. And I need > instructions how to build squeak. > Please help! > _______________________________________________ > Beginners mailing list > Beginners(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners Hi, There are instructions for building with cmake in the file platforms/unix/README.CMake Please feel free to ask questions about this on the vm-dev mailing list (http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/vm-dev). You will find people there with BSD experience who may be able to help. Also, if you search the vm-dev list archives, you may find some discussions from BSD users. Dave --===============6306235097716172545==-- From bronta@rambler.ru Tue Aug 23 18:27:07 2011 From: bronta@rambler.ru To: beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Newbies] Install squeak on BSD Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 22:27:06 +0400 Message-ID: <675069694.1314124026.66774584.2639@mperl7.rambler.ru> In-Reply-To: <20110823112826.GA93424@shell.msen.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2401306751199342839==" --===============2401306751199342839== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's so pleasing to receive so affable answer! Thank you very much! There is no folder "platforms" in archive with sources of vm. But I found file "unix/README.CMake". But I'm afraid that is not what I need. There is written to use "make" command. And I already does it as I wrote before. Please! Is there somebody who can give exact instructions how to install squeak on BSD? * "David T. Lewis" [Tue, 23 Aug 2011 07:28:26 -0400]: > On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 08:23:28AM +0400, bronta(a)rambler.ru wrote: > > Hallo! > > I'm trying to install squeak from sources on FreeBSD 8.2. I read > Readme > > and followed it's instructions. But when I run squeak I get error: > > "Could not find display driver vm-display-X11; either:check that > > /usr/local/lib/squeak/3.10-6/vm-display-X11.so exists" > > I found this topic in bug tracker: > > http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7451 > > As I understood docs are incorrect and I must use cmake instead of > make. > > I used "cmake -i" command and got this message: "CMake Error: The > source > > directory "/home/.../Squeak-4.4.7.2357-src/bld" does not appear to > > contain CMakeLists.txt." > > Actually I don't know anything about cmake utility. 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multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0361544912076379562==" --===============0361544912076379562== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have installed Squeak on FreeBSD -- that is my primary platform. I have tried and failed to build a vm from sources, my wizard hat just isn't powerful enough. If all you want is to get it working I can help with that. Gary Dunn Open Slate Project http://openslate.org On Aug 23, 2011 8:27 AM, wrote: It's so pleasing to receive so affable answer! Thank you very much! There is no folder "platforms" in archive with sources of vm. But I found file "unix/README.CMake". But I'm afraid that is not what I need. There is written to use "make" command. And I already does it as I wrote before. Please! Is there somebody who can give exact instructions how to install squeak on BSD? * "David T. Lewis" [Tue, 23 Aug 2011 07:28:26 -0400]: > > > On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 08:23:28AM +0400, bronta(a)rambler.ru wrote: > > > Hallo! > > > I'm try... _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list Beginners(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners --===============0361544912076379562== Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="attachment.html" MIME-Version: 1.0 PHA+SSBoYXZlIGluc3RhbGxlZCBTcXVlYWsgb24gRnJlZUJTRCAtLSB0aGF0IGlzIG15IHByaW1h cnkgcGxhdGZvcm0uIEkgaGF2ZSB0cmllZCBhbmQgZmFpbGVkIHRvIGJ1aWxkIGEgdm0gZnJvbSBz b3VyY2VzLCBteSB3aXphcmQgaGF0IGp1c3QgaXNuJiMzOTt0IHBvd2VyZnVsIGVub3VnaC4gSWYg YWxsIHlvdSB3YW50IGlzIHRvIGdldCBpdCB3b3JraW5nIEkgY2FuIGhlbHAgd2l0aCB0aGF0Ljwv cD4KCjxwPkdhcnkgRHVubjxicj4KT3BlbiBTbGF0ZSBQcm9qZWN0PGJyPgo8YSBocmVmPSJodHRw Oi8vb3BlbnNsYXRlLm9yZyI+aHR0cDovL29wZW5zbGF0ZS5vcmc8L2E+PC9wPgo8cD48YmxvY2tx dW90ZSB0eXBlPSJjaXRlIj5PbiBBdWcgMjMsIDIwMTEgODoyNyBBTSwgICZsdDs8YSBocmVmPSJt YWlsdG86YnJvbnRhQHJhbWJsZXIucnUiPmJyb250YUByYW1ibGVyLnJ1PC9hPiZndDsgd3JvdGU6 PGJyPjxicj4KCgoKCjxkaXY+CjxwPkl0JiMzOTtzIHNvIHBsZWFzaW5nIHRvIHJlY2VpdmUgc28g YWZmYWJsZSBhbnN3ZXIhIFRoYW5rIHlvdSB2ZXJ5IG11Y2ghIDxicj5UaGVyZSBpcyBubyBmb2xk ZXIgJnF1b3Q7cGxhdGZvcm1zJnF1b3Q7IGluIGFyY2hpdmUgd2l0aCBzb3VyY2VzIG9mIHZtLiBC dXQgSSA8YnI+Zm91bmQgZmlsZSAmcXVvdDt1bml4L1JFQURNRS5DTWFrZSZxdW90Oy4gQnV0IEkm IzM5O20gYWZyYWlkIHRoYXQgaXMgbm90IHdoYXQgSSBuZWVkLiA8YnI+ClRoZXJlIGlzIHdyaXR0 ZW4gdG8gdXNlICZxdW90O21ha2UmcXVvdDsgY29tbWFuZC4gQW5kIEkgYWxyZWFkeSBkb2VzIGl0 IGFzIEkgd3JvdGUgPGJyPmJlZm9yZS4gPGJyPjxicj5QbGVhc2UhIElzIHRoZXJlIHNvbWVib2R5 IHdobyBjYW4gZ2l2ZSBleGFjdCBpbnN0cnVjdGlvbnMgaG93IHRvIGluc3RhbGwgc3F1ZWFrIG9u IEJTRD88YnI+oDxicj4qICZxdW90O0RhdmlkIFQuIExld2lzJnF1b3Q7ICZsdDs8YSBocmVmPSJt YWlsdG86bGV3aXNAbWFpbC5tc2VuLmNvbSIgdGFyZ2V0PSJfYmxhbmsiPmxld2lzQG1haWwubXNl bi5jb208L2E+Jmd0OyBbVHVlLCAyMyBBdWcgMjAxMSAwNzoyODoyNiAtMDQwMF06PC9wPgo8cD48 Zm9udCBjb2xvcj0iIzUwMDA1MCI+PGJyPiZndDs8YnI+Jmd0OyAmZ3Q7IE9uIFR1ZSwgQXVnIDIz LCAyMDExIGF0IDA4OjIzOjI4QU0gKzA0MDAsIDxhIGhyZWY9Im1haWx0bzpicm9udGFAcmFtYmxl ci5ydSI+YnJvbnRhQHJhbWJsZXIucnU8L2E+IHdyb3RlOjxicj4mZ3Q7ICZndDsgJmd0OyBIYWxs byE8YnI+Jmd0OyAmZ3Q7ICZndDsgSSYjMzk7bSB0cnkuLi48L2ZvbnQ+PC9wPgo8L2Rpdj4KCjxi cj5fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXzxicj4KQmVn aW5uZXJzIG1haWxpbmcgbGlzdDxicj4KPGEgaHJlZj0ibWFpbHRvOkJlZ2lubmVyc0BsaXN0cy5z cXVlYWtmb3VuZGF0aW9uLm9yZyI+QmVnaW5uZXJzQGxpc3RzLnNxdWVha2ZvdW5kYXRpb24ub3Jn PC9hPjxicj4KPGEgaHJlZj0iaHR0cDovL2xpc3RzLnNxdWVha2ZvdW5kYXRpb24ub3JnL21haWxt YW4vbGlzdGluZm8vYmVnaW5uZXJzIiB0YXJnZXQ9Il9ibGFuayI+aHR0cDovL2xpc3RzLnNxdWVh a2ZvdW5kYXRpb24ub3JnL21haWxtYW4vbGlzdGluZm8vYmVnaW5uZXJzPC9hPjxicj4KPGJyPjwv YmxvY2txdW90ZT48L3A+Cg== --===============0361544912076379562==-- From bronta@rambler.ru Wed Aug 24 03:53:51 2011 From: bronta@rambler.ru To: beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Newbies] Install squeak on BSD Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 08:00:03 +0400 Message-ID: <960906872.1314158403.84647880.16672@mperl6.rambler.ru> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1413514135448740412==" --===============1413514135448740412== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes. Help me to get wroking squeak if you know how! * Gary Dunn [Tue, 23 Aug 2011 10:01:46 -1000]: > I have installed Squeak on FreeBSD -- that is my primary platform. I > have > tried and failed to build a vm from sources, my wizard hat just isn't > powerful enough. If all you want is to get it working I can help with > that. > > Gary Dunn > Open Slate Project > http://openslate.org > > On Aug 23, 2011 8:27 AM, wrote: > > It's so pleasing to receive so affable answer! Thank you very much! > There is no folder "platforms" in archive with sources of vm. But I > found file "unix/README.CMake". But I'm afraid that is not what I need. > There is written to use "make" command. And I already does it as I wrote > before. > > Please! Is there somebody who can give exact instructions how to install > squeak on BSD? > > * "David T. Lewis" [Tue, 23 Aug 2011 07:28:26 > -0400]: > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 08:23:28AM +0400, bronta(a)rambler.ru wrote: > > > > Hallo! > > > > I'm try... > > _______________________________________________ > Beginners mailing list > Beginners(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners > > _______________________________________________ > Beginners mailing list > Beginners(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners --===============1413514135448740412== Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="attachment.html" MIME-Version: 1.0 PGh0bWw+CjxoZWFkPgo8dGl0bGU+UmU6IFtOZXdiaWVzXSBJbnN0YWxsIHNxdWVhayBvbiBCU0Q8 L3RpdGxlPgo8bWV0YSBodHRwLWVxdWl2PSJDb250ZW50LVR5cGUiIGNvbnRlbnQ9InRleHQvaHRt bDsgY2hhcnNldD11cy1hc2NpaSI+CjwvaGVhZD4KPGJvZHk+CjxwPlllcy4gSGVscCBtZSB0byBn ZXQgd3Jva2luZyBzcXVlYWsgaWYgeW91IGtub3cgaG93ITxicj4mbmJzcDs8YnI+Jm5ic3A7PGJy PiogR2FyeSBEdW5uICZsdDs8YSBocmVmPSJtYWlsdG86Z2FyeWR1bm5oaUBnbWFpbC5jb20iPmdh cnlkdW5uaGlAZ21haWwuY29tPC9hPiZndDsgW1R1ZSwgMjMgQXVnIDIwMTEgMTA6MDE6NDYgLTEw MDBdOjwvcD48YmxvY2txdW90ZT48cD4mZ3Q7IEkgaGF2ZSBpbnN0YWxsZWQgU3F1ZWFrIG9uIEZy ZWVCU0QgLS0gdGhhdCBpcyBteSBwcmltYXJ5IHBsYXRmb3JtLiBJPGJyPiZndDsgaGF2ZTxicj4m Z3Q7IHRyaWVkIGFuZCBmYWlsZWQgdG8gYnVpbGQgYSB2bSBmcm9tIHNvdXJjZXMsIG15IHdpemFy ZCBoYXQganVzdCBpc24ndDxicj4mZ3Q7IHBvd2VyZnVsIGVub3VnaC4gSWYgYWxsIHlvdSB3YW50 IGlzIHRvIGdldCBpdCB3b3JraW5nIEkgY2FuIGhlbHAgd2l0aDxicj4mZ3Q7IHRoYXQuPGJyPiZn dDs8YnI+Jmd0OyBHYXJ5IER1bm48YnI+Jmd0OyBPcGVuIFNsYXRlIFByb2plY3Q8YnI+Jmd0OyA8 YSBocmVmPSJodHRwOi8vb3BlbnNsYXRlLm9yZyI+aHR0cDovL29wZW5zbGF0ZS5vcmc8L2E+PGJy PiZndDs8YnI+Jmd0OyBPbiBBdWcgMjMsIDIwMTEgODoyNyBBTSwgJmx0OzxhIGhyZWY9Im1haWx0 bzpicm9udGFAcmFtYmxlci5ydSI+YnJvbnRhQHJhbWJsZXIucnU8L2E+Jmd0OyB3cm90ZTo8YnI+ Jmd0Ozxicj4mZ3Q7ICBJdCdzIHNvIHBsZWFzaW5nIHRvIHJlY2VpdmUgc28gYWZmYWJsZSBhbnN3 ZXIhIFRoYW5rIHlvdSB2ZXJ5IG11Y2ghPGJyPiZndDsgVGhlcmUgaXMgbm8gZm9sZGVyICJwbGF0 Zm9ybXMiIGluIGFyY2hpdmUgd2l0aCBzb3VyY2VzIG9mIHZtLiBCdXQgSTxicj4mZ3Q7IGZvdW5k IGZpbGUgInVuaXgvUkVBRE1FLkNNYWtlIi4gQnV0IEknbSBhZnJhaWQgdGhhdCBpcyBub3Qgd2hh dCBJIG5lZWQuPGJyPiZndDsgVGhlcmUgaXMgd3JpdHRlbiB0byB1c2UgIm1ha2UiIApjb21tYW5k LiBBbmQgSSBhbHJlYWR5IGRvZXMgaXQgYXMgSSB3cm90ZTxicj4mZ3Q7IGJlZm9yZS48YnI+Jmd0 Ozxicj4mZ3Q7IFBsZWFzZSEgSXMgdGhlcmUgc29tZWJvZHkgd2hvIGNhbiBnaXZlIGV4YWN0IGlu c3RydWN0aW9ucyBob3cgdG8gaW5zdGFsbDxicj4mZ3Q7IHNxdWVhayBvbiBCU0Q/PGJyPiZndDs8 YnI+Jmd0OyAqICJEYXZpZCBULiBMZXdpcyIgJmx0OzxhIGhyZWY9Im1haWx0bzpsZXdpc0BtYWls Lm1zZW4uY29tIj5sZXdpc0BtYWlsLm1zZW4uY29tPC9hPiZndDsgW1R1ZSwgMjMgQXVnIDIwMTEg MDc6Mjg6MjY8YnI+Jmd0OyAtMDQwMF06PGJyPiZndDs8YnI+Jmd0Ozxicj4mZ3Q7ICZndDs8YnI+ Jmd0OyAmZ3Q7ICZndDsgT24gVHVlLCBBdWcgMjMsIDIwMTEgYXQgMDg6MjM6MjhBTSArMDQwMCwg PGEgaHJlZj0ibWFpbHRvOmJyb250YUByYW1ibGVyLnJ1Ij5icm9udGFAcmFtYmxlci5ydTwvYT4g d3JvdGU6PGJyPiZndDsgJmd0OyAmZ3Q7ICZndDsgSGFsbG8hPGJyPiZndDsgJmd0OyAmZ3Q7ICZn dDsgSSdtIHRyeS4uLjxicj4mZ3Q7PGJyPiZndDsgX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX188YnI+Jmd0OyBCZWdpbm5lcnMgbWFpbGluZyBsaXN0PGJyPiZn dDsgPGEgaHJlZj0ibWFpbHRvOkJlZ2lubmVyc0BsaXN0cy5zcXVlYWtmb3VuZGF0aW9uLm9yZyI+ QmVnaW5uZXJzQGxpc3RzLnNxdWVha2ZvdW5kYXRpb24ub3JnPC9hPjxicj4mZ3Q7IDxhIGhyZWY9 Imh0dHA6Ly9saXN0cy5zcXVlYWtmb3VuZGF0aW9uLm9yZy9tYWlsbWFuL2xpc3RpbmZvL2JlZ2lu bmVycyI+aHR0cDovL2xpc3RzLnNxdWVha2ZvdW5kYXRpb24ub3JnL21haWxtYW4vbGlzdGluZm8v YmVnaW5uZXJzPC9hPjxicj4mZ3Q7PGJyPiZndDsgX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX188YnI+Jmd0OyBCZWdpbm5lcnMgbWFpbGluZyBsaXN0PGJyPiZn dDsgCjxhIGhyZWY9Im1haWx0bzpCZWdpbm5lcnNAbGlzdHMuc3F1ZWFrZm91bmRhdGlvbi5vcmci PkJlZ2lubmVyc0BsaXN0cy5zcXVlYWtmb3VuZGF0aW9uLm9yZzwvYT48YnI+Jmd0OyA8YSBocmVm PSJodHRwOi8vbGlzdHMuc3F1ZWFrZm91bmRhdGlvbi5vcmcvbWFpbG1hbi9saXN0aW5mby9iZWdp bm5lcnMiPmh0dHA6Ly9saXN0cy5zcXVlYWtmb3VuZGF0aW9uLm9yZy9tYWlsbWFuL2xpc3RpbmZv L2JlZ2lubmVyczwvYT48L3A+PC9ibG9ja3F1b3RlPjxwPiZuYnNwOzxicj4mbmJzcDs8L3A+Cgo8 L2JvZHk+CjwvaHRtbD4K --===============1413514135448740412==-- From garydunnhi@gmail.com Wed Aug 24 10:53:17 2011 From: Gary Dunn To: beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Newbies] Install squeak on BSD Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 03:53:14 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <960906872.1314158403.84647880.16672@mperl6.rambler.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9163924132524037183==" --===============9163924132524037183== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please give this a try and be sure to let me know what doesn't work. GET FREEBSD VIRTUAL MACHINE (VM) http://www.squeakvm.org/index.html click "Unix Squeak information and downloads" Source and binary archives (most recent version) 4.4.7.2357 Unix VM Intel x86 FreeBSD click "Squeak-4.4.7.2375-freebsd8.2_i386.tar.gz" (downloading file) cd to directory where file was downloaded to extract tarball: tar xvf Squeak-4.4.7.2375-freebsd8.2_i386.tar.gz cd Squeak-4.4.7.2375-freebsd8.2_i386 3 folders, bin, lib, share copy contents of bin to /usr/local/bin copy contents of lib to /usr/local/lib copy contents of share to /usr/share (pit man page with other man pages) DOWNLOAD IMAGE http://www.squeak.org/Download click "Squeak Release" to download zip file "Squeak4.2-10966.zip" Unzip contents, an image file and a changes file. 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I've executed all your instructions. But when I run "squeak /path_to_image/Squeak4.2-10966.image" command I get error: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: unsupported file layout May be this is because I have x64 distribution of FreeBSD? Your instructions was for x32 only? Or it is not important? * Gary Dunn [Wed, 24 Aug 2011 03:53:14 -0700]: > Please give this a try and be sure to let me know what doesn't work. > > GET FREEBSD VIRTUAL MACHINE (VM) > > http://www.squeakvm.org/index.html > > click "Unix Squeak information and downloads" > > Source and binary archives > > (most recent version) > > 4.4.7.2357 Unix VM > > Intel x86 FreeBSD click "Squeak-4.4.7.2375-freebsd8.2_i386.tar.gz" > > (downloading file) > > cd to directory where file was downloaded to > > extract tarball: tar xvf Squeak-4.4.7.2375-freebsd8.2_i386.tar.gz > > cd Squeak-4.4.7.2375-freebsd8.2_i386 > > 3 folders, bin, lib, share > > copy contents of bin to /usr/local/bin > > copy contents of lib to /usr/local/lib > > copy contents of share to /usr/share (pit man page with other man pages) > > DOWNLOAD IMAGE > > http://www.squeak.org/Download > > click "Squeak Release" to download zip file "Squeak4.2-10966.zip" > > Unzip contents, an image file and a changes file. 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Be sure your ports tree is up to date ,,, you may have an older version of freetype. The VM just says "i386" which means an Intel rather than PowerPC. Could be limited to 32 bit version. The folks on the vm-dev mailing list would know, so join that list and post your results there. I track that list so I suggest we work this issue there and post a summary result back here. Good luck! On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 4:28 AM, wrote: > Thank you very much! > I've executed all your instructions. But when I run "squeak > /path_to_image/Squeak4.2-10966.image" command I get error: > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: unsupported file > layout > > May be this is because I have x64 distribution of FreeBSD? Your > instructions was for x32 only? Or it is not important? > > > * Gary Dunn [Wed, 24 Aug 2011 03:53:14 -0700]: > > > Please give this a try and be sure to let me know what doesn't work. > > > > GET FREEBSD VIRTUAL MACHINE (VM) > > > > http://www.squeakvm.org/index.html > > > > click "Unix Squeak information and downloads" > > > > Source and binary archives > > > > (most recent version) > > > > 4.4.7.2357 Unix VM > > > > Intel x86 FreeBSD click "Squeak-4.4.7.2375-freebsd8.2_i386.tar.gz" > > > > (downloading file) > > > > cd to directory where file was downloaded to > > > > extract tarball: tar xvf Squeak-4.4.7.2375-freebsd8.2_i386.tar.gz > > > > cd Squeak-4.4.7.2375-freebsd8.2_i386 > > > > 3 folders, bin, lib, share > > > > copy contents of bin to /usr/local/bin > > > > copy contents of lib to /usr/local/lib > > > > copy contents of share to /usr/share (pit man page with other man pages) > > > > DOWNLOAD IMAGE > > > > http://www.squeak.org/Download > > > > click "Squeak Release" to download zip file "Squeak4.2-10966.zip" > > > > Unzip contents, an image file and a changes file. Move them to the same > > location, perhaps ~/MySqueak > > > > DOWNLOAD SOURCES > > > > http://www.squeak.org/Download > > > > click "SqueakV4.1.sources" to download sources file > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Beginners mailing list > Beginners(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners > > -- Gary Dunn Honolulu --===============2833153039128959899== Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="attachment.html" MIME-Version: 1.0 PGRpdj5GaXJzdCB0cnkgY2QgdG8gdGhlIGRpcmVjdG9yeSBjb250YWluaW5nIHRoZSBpbWFnZSwg dGhlbiBleGVjdXRlIHNxdWVhayAuLi4gZWxpbWluYXRlIHRoZSAmcXVvdDtwYXRoX3RvX2ltYWdl JnF1b3Q7IHBhcnQuoDwvZGl2PjxkaXY+PGJyPjwvZGl2PjxkaXY+QmUgc3VyZSB5b3VyIHBvcnRz IHRyZWUgaXMgdXAgdG8gZGF0ZSAsLCwgeW91IG1heSBoYXZlIGFuIG9sZGVyIHZlcnNpb24gb2Yg ZnJlZXR5cGUuPC9kaXY+CjxkaXY+PGJyPjwvZGl2PlRoZSBWTSBqdXN0IHNheXMgJnF1b3Q7aTM4 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But when I run "squeak=20 > /path_to_image/Squeak4.2-10966.image" command I get error: > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: unsupported file=20 > layout > > May be this is because I have x64 distribution of FreeBSD? Your instruction= s=20 > was for x32 only? Or it is not important? It is. It was. It's important, you have to install 32-bit versions of the=20 libriaries in order to use this prebuilt VM. Levente > > * Gary Dunn [Wed, 24 Aug 2011 03:53:14 -0700]: >> Please give this a try and be sure to let me know what doesn't work. >>=20 >> GET FREEBSD VIRTUAL MACHINE (VM) >>=20 >> http://www.squeakvm.org/index.html >>=20 >> click "Unix Squeak information and downloads" >>=20 >> Source and binary archives >>=20 >> (most recent version) >>=20 >> 4.4.7.2357 Unix VM >>=20 >> Intel x86 FreeBSD click "Squeak-4.4.7.2375-freebsd8.2_i386.tar.gz" >>=20 >> (downloading file) >>=20 >> cd to directory where file was downloaded to >>=20 >> extract tarball: tar xvf Squeak-4.4.7.2375-freebsd8.2_i386.tar.gz >>=20 >> cd Squeak-4.4.7.2375-freebsd8.2_i386 >>=20 >> 3 folders, bin, lib, share >>=20 >> copy contents of bin to /usr/local/bin >>=20 >> copy contents of lib to /usr/local/lib >>=20 >> copy contents of share to /usr/share (pit man page with other man=20 > pages) >>=20 >> DOWNLOAD IMAGE >>=20 >> http://www.squeak.org/Download >>=20 >> click "Squeak Release" to download zip file "Squeak4.2-10966.zip" >>=20 >> Unzip contents, an image file and a changes file. Move them to the=20 > same >> location, perhaps ~/MySqueak >>=20 >> DOWNLOAD SOURCES >>=20 >> http://www.squeak.org/Download >>=20 >> click "SqueakV4.1.sources" to download sources file >>=20 > --===============3724610841255514244==-- From bronta@rambler.ru Thu Aug 25 14:22:57 2011 From: bronta@rambler.ru To: beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Newbies] Install squeak on BSD Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 18:22:56 +0400 Message-ID: <1208547380.1314282176.71555464.1609@mperl16.rambler.ru> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3501180949504435371==" --===============3501180949504435371== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've created new thread in Vm-dev mailing list. So lets continue dialog there. Which 32 bit libraries should I install? Can you please give a documentation link about this operation? Thanks for help:)! * Levente Uzonyi [Wed, 24 Aug 2011 18:34:28 +0200 (CEST)]: > On Wed, 24 Aug 2011, bronta(a)rambler.ru wrote: > > > Thank you very much! > > I've executed all your instructions. But when I run "squeak > > /path_to_image/Squeak4.2-10966.image" command I get error: > > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: unsupported > file > > layout > > > > May be this is because I have x64 distribution of FreeBSD? Your > instructions > > was for x32 only? Or it is not important? > > It is. It was. It's important, you have to install 32-bit versions of > the > libriaries in order to use this prebuilt VM. > > > Levente > > > > > * Gary Dunn [Wed, 24 Aug 2011 03:53:14 -0700]: > >> Please give this a try and be sure to let me know what doesn't work. > >> > >> GET FREEBSD VIRTUAL MACHINE (VM) > >> > >> http://www.squeakvm.org/index.html > >> > >> click "Unix Squeak information and downloads" > >> > >> Source and binary archives > >> > >> (most recent version) > >> > >> 4.4.7.2357 Unix VM > >> > >> Intel x86 FreeBSD click "Squeak-4.4.7.2375-freebsd8.2_i386.tar.gz" > >> > >> (downloading file) > >> > >> cd to directory where file was downloaded to > >> > >> extract tarball: tar xvf Squeak-4.4.7.2375-freebsd8.2_i386.tar.gz > >> > >> cd Squeak-4.4.7.2375-freebsd8.2_i386 > >> > >> 3 folders, bin, lib, share > >> > >> copy contents of bin to /usr/local/bin > >> > >> copy contents of lib to /usr/local/lib > >> > >> copy contents of share to /usr/share (pit man page with other man > > pages) > >> > >> DOWNLOAD IMAGE > >> > >> http://www.squeak.org/Download > >> > >> click "Squeak Release" to download zip file "Squeak4.2-10966.zip" > >> > >> Unzip contents, an image file and a changes file. 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DeNigris" To: beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: [Newbies] OMeta Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 07:57:01 -0700 Message-ID: <1314284221842-3768488.post@n4.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6354248453867304244==" --===============6354248453867304244== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I tried to load OMeta2 into Squeak 4.2 and ended up with "AnObsoleteOMeta2Base subclass: #OMeta2" >From squeaksource.com/OMeta, I loaded: 1. OMeta2-Preload 2. OMeta2-Postload It seems like the post-load is removing the base class of OMeta2. How do I load it successfully? Thanks. Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/OMeta-tp3768488p3768488.h= tml Sent from the Squeak - Beginners mailing list archive at Nabble.com. --===============6354248453867304244==-- From bert@freudenbergs.de Thu Aug 25 15:12:19 2011 From: Bert Freudenberg To: beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Newbies] OMeta Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 16:11:45 +0100 Message-ID: <94841A29-4F8F-4B91-BC99-9CB3887ABD09@freudenbergs.de> In-Reply-To: <1314284221842-3768488.post@n4.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0124619747279914745==" --===============0124619747279914745== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 25.08.2011, at 15:57, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > I tried to load OMeta2 into Squeak 4.2 and ended up with > "AnObsoleteOMeta2Base subclass: #OMeta2" >=20 >> From squeaksource.com/OMeta, I loaded: > 1. OMeta2-Preload > 2. OMeta2-Postload >=20 > It seems like the post-load is removing the base class of OMeta2. >=20 > How do I load it successfully? There is a bug in 4.2 preventing OMeta's special PackageInfo class from being= loaded. This has been fixed in the trunk version. It works fine in Squeak4.3alpha-11314 (and presumably later versions). - Bert - --===============0124619747279914745==-- From bert@freudenbergs.de Thu Aug 25 15:14:32 2011 From: Bert Freudenberg To: beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Newbies] OMeta Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 16:14:23 +0100 Message-ID: <26FF164D-A5B1-4DC8-9CF2-8FE88855F09C@freudenbergs.de> In-Reply-To: <94841A29-4F8F-4B91-BC99-9CB3887ABD09@freudenbergs.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8232103482037559926==" --===============8232103482037559926== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 25.08.2011, at 16:11, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > On 25.08.2011, at 15:57, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: >=20 >> I tried to load OMeta2 into Squeak 4.2 and ended up with >> "AnObsoleteOMeta2Base subclass: #OMeta2" >>=20 >>> From squeaksource.com/OMeta, I loaded: >> 1. OMeta2-Preload >> 2. OMeta2-Postload >>=20 >> It seems like the post-load is removing the base class of OMeta2. >>=20 >> How do I load it successfully? >=20 > There is a bug in 4.2 preventing OMeta's special PackageInfo class from bei= ng loaded. This has been fixed in the trunk version. >=20 > It works fine in Squeak4.3alpha-11314 (and presumably later versions). Actually the version I tried was 11460 (I did update from 11314). - Bert - --===============8232103482037559926==-- From sean@clipperadams.com Thu Aug 25 15:16:45 2011 From: "Sean P. DeNigris" To: beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: [Newbies] Re: OMeta Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 08:16:44 -0700 Message-ID: <1314285404891-3768543.post@n4.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <26FF164D-A5B1-4DC8-9CF2-8FE88855F09C@freudenbergs.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1475259115077983759==" --===============1475259115077983759== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bert Freudenberg wrote: >=20 >> It works fine in Squeak4.3alpha... version... 11460 >=20 Thanks. Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/OMeta-tp3768488p3768543.h= tml Sent from the Squeak - Beginners mailing list archive at Nabble.com. --===============1475259115077983759==--